From: DRAGONFLY To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Give it a Rest Date & Time: 02/05/91 11:47:08 Message Number 11901 >It is still a nonsense word. Who would be afraid of a pansy? ALL phobias are irrational, including homophobia. That doesn't mean they're not real. A mix 'n match collection of phobias: pedophobia (fear of children); hagiophobia (fear of saints); theo- phobia (fear of God); ailurophobia (fear of cats); vermiphobia (fear of worms); anthophobia (fear of flowers); aulophobia (fear of flutes); eisoptrophobia (fear of mirrors); chrometophobia (fear of money); trichophobia (fear of hair); doraphilia (love of fur); barophobia (fear of gravity); cymophobia (fear of waves); eoso- phobia (fear of dawn); dikephobia (fear of justice); chromophobia (fear of color); agyrophobia (fear of crossing a street).;.. The list just goes on and on... All of those are REAL fears, caused by irrational reasons. Nobody in her right mind would say that there is anything terrible to fear in any of the above... /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Give Peace agin Date & Time: 02/05/91 11:58:22 Message Number 11902 I doubt ANYONE could be as far from the point as your last message. >You don't want to fight, you criticize those who would, yet you >enjoy all the benefits of a country that has fought many times >to maintain it's freedom... am I right? First of all, I doubt the most dedicated soldier in the field WANTS to fight. (Unless he's a psychopath...) Nobody wants to die for their country. Most soldiers have resigned themselves to the fact that they may have to die, that's all. Secondly, this war is NOT about the freedoms of this country. It is strictly a war for economic reasons. Our Illustrious Leaders have de- cided that it would be cheaper in the long run to fight this war (and, incidentally, pull this country from its recession) than it would be to pay higher prices for oil. Kuwait is not a democracy. In fact, it doesn't have the equivalent of our Bill of Rights. This is NOT a war to save the country. It seems you're dividing all of us into black and white: pacifists and 'True Americans.' Not only is it simplistic, it's wrong. Almost all Americans will fight bravely if our nation is attacked physically. Not all Americans feel it's worth the sacrifice of our soldiers to keep the cost of oil down. Let me phrase it to you this way: If by suiciding, you know that oil will sell at $15/ barrel for the next five years, would you suicide? Is YOUR, personal life worth it to know that the cost of oil will be low for the next few years? If not, why would you send thousands of others to their deaths for that purpose? /Dragonfly/ =========== From: SCOTT STEEL To: RUFUS Subject: PB&J Date & Time: 02/05/91 13:07:57 Message Number 11903 R> i just toss two pieces of white bread, some jelly, some peanut butter and a splash of milk in the blender, and blend it up. Saves from all that chewing ya gotta do otherwise. And the jelly alway drips out if make a sandwich the conventional way. That's a little odd, don't youy think. I bet clean up is a bitch. BTW< what's the consistency like of that combination? I'd guess that it's pretty gross. But, in your defense, I must admit that I can't eat a PB & J without a big glass of milk. =========== From: SCOTT STEEL To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Give it a Rest Date & Time: 02/05/91 13:12:10 Message Number 11904 TS> Who would be afraid of a pansy? I bet there are plenty of faggots out there that could ring your neck, or mine for that matter. Being homosexual doesn't make them a wimp or a push-over in a fight. True enough, some of them are pansies, but definitely not all of them. =========== From: SCOTT STEEL To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Faggot friends Date & Time: 02/05/91 13:17:11 Message Number 11905 TS> Hanging out with gays makes other believe that you may swing that TS> way, too. Well, I've had other gay friends that understood, and excepted my position and never even made an attempt on me. Whether or not you approve of them for their sexual perfernce doesn't make them any less HUMAN. Yes, they're human too, they have feelings, wants, needs, goals, and a desire to be loved, just like anyone else. Yes, I know, I know. Shoot them on shot. But gays are people too. "yeah, just like protesters, cannon-fodder." , right Specialist? Just for the record, this is /not/ meant to annoy you. But perhaps to get you to open your heart up to others. (not trying to be mushy either) I'd just like to see you except people the way they are, for what they are, instead of judging and seeing if they match up to /your/ standards. Besides, if everyone agreed with you, you'd have no one to argue with, and we know you wouldn't want that. =========== From: SCOTT STEEL To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: trivia Date & Time: 02/05/91 13:24:31 Message Number 11906 T & TS> Hen party. Huh, I don't get it? I know I've never hear the end of it, but what's the joke? =========== From: SCOTT STEEL To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: PB&J Date & Time: 02/05/91 13:25:58 Message Number 11907 TS> Slobs! How do they clean their knifes (sic, that's knives!) neatly! You are one to talk are /Slobs/ But, yes, you are showing improvement. :) Smile. Have a day. Scott Steel =========== From: SCOTT STEEL To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Faggot friends Date & Time: 02/05/91 13:35:15 Message Number 11910 TS> "One, Two, Three...*CRUNCH* ...Three." TS> The world will never know. One of your more intelligent responses, I must say. =========== From: SCOTT STEEL To: DRAGONFLY Subject: trivia Date & Time: 02/05/91 13:39:22 Message Number 11911 Why was Spock supposed to be red? =========== From: SCOTT STEEL To: DRAGONFLY Subject: Give Peace agin Date & Time: 02/05/91 13:43:11 Message Number 11912 DF>....If not, why would you send thousands of others to their deaths DF> for that purpose? You had a good arguement there and you blew the whole thing with your last statement. Only a few of the thousands over there have died. And this war has /proven/ itself not to be a suicide mission. Bad choice for a closing arguement. =========== From: BEATLE To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: trivia Date & Time: 02/05/91 18:53:53 Message Number 11913 > What's Chekov's first name? Pavel. What's Sulu's first name? =========== From: BEATLE To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Various Date & Time: 02/05/91 19:00:10 Message Number 11914 >...answer your question? Gee, you've got some stuff in there that Turtle likes... as a matter of fact, you would sort of be a bridge between my favorite kinds of music (Billy Joel, and a couple other things on your list) and Turtle's favorite kinds of music (Rush, Pink Floyd, etc...) With some more persuasion, you could like Heavy Metal (well, SOME of it)... =========== From: BEATLE To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Holy Grail Date & Time: 02/05/91 19:03:36 Message Number 11915 > "You've got two 'alves of cocoanuts and your bangin' 'em tugetha!" "Do you mean to suggest that cocoanuts migrate?" =========== From: BEATLE To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: (Part III Date & Time: 02/05/91 19:10:30 Message Number 11916 Thanks for the history lesson. It might have been slightly "slanted", but I thought you did a good job of keeping your opinions out (I know they would have been REALLY strong)... =========== From: BEATLE To: RUFUS Subject: PA Date & Time: 02/05/91 19:16:35 Message Number 11917 > Remember, it's always good to sacrafice a student or two as long as > the administration doesn't have to deal with upset parents... Oh yes, the rationale behind banning books from school libraries! I should have remembered... =========== From: BEATLE To: RUFUS Subject: The word... Date & Time: 02/05/91 19:18:02 Message Number 11918 > I like "They Might Be Giants." I recall a day when you and I were out with Zot Gnop and you were looking a bit discouraged by their music... =========== From: BOB SOMERVILLE To: SYSOP Subject: BBS A/R Date & Time: 02/05/91 22:45:00 Message Number 11919 it before. I have worked extensively with the Votec Voice as a user and a Sysop. The command structure is a little different and will take some getting use to. Thanks for the help. I will try to get going on one of the boards soon. =========== From: NIGHT OWL To: TIBERIUS Subject: PB&J Date & Time: 02/05/91 23:10:28 Message Number 11921 I saw that too, it was onTonight, wasn't it? What's your favorite thing to go with Peanut Butter? Mine's strawberry preserves. SEE YA! Knight Owl =========== From: BEATLE To: TURTLE Subject: protesters Date & Time: 02/06/91 04:52:20 Message Number 11922 > Huh?? It must have got garbled. And it also was meant to point out that you've started throwing in comments about the Specialist with your messages. Not that he doesn't do it, but it surprised me to see you do it, since you make it clear that you believe to "attack the issue, not the person." =========== From: BEATLE To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: Rationality Date & Time: 02/06/91 04:55:14 Message Number 11923 > "Many of the truths we hold dear are dependent on our point of view." Interesting choice of quotes... While it applies, I always felt that was a cheap contrivance to explain why Darth Vader was Luke's father. They could have left it more ambiguous in the first film and avoided that. =========== From: BEATLE To: DRAGONFLY Subject: trivia Date & Time: 02/06/91 05:01:38 Message Number 11924 > Why, the bread, course! Not if you're on a TV game show aimed at kids... They'll frequently use peanut butter and jelly without bread at all. =========== From: BEATLE To: MAX Subject: Give Peace agin Date & Time: 02/06/91 05:03:08 Message Number 11925 > ...dismissing the song solely because it doesn't support a "popular" > war. I don't think that's the main thing that was floating around here. The Specialist is always opinionated, and he just stated that he didn't like the song. His expanded comments, including the one about money going to the artists, came after Turtle and I claimed that the song wasn't a piece of junk. BTW, where did you hear about where the money goes? I saw a couple reports on TV about the making of the song, and they NEVER mentioned where the money is going. I'm not trying to disagree with you, but if they aren't more forthright in telling where the profit goes, more people might assume what The Specialist did. =========== From: BEATLE To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Give it a Rest Date & Time: 02/06/91 05:11:07 Message Number 11926 > Homophobic is a word made up by fags to cover up their... abnormality. While I disagree with that statement totally, I see the point you made with your message. The question is: How would you act if you met one. This would determine if homophobia went along with your hatred. =========== From: BEATLE To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Give Peace agin Date & Time: 02/06/91 05:16:13 Message Number 11927 > Tell me that the people who sang... wanted to have another hit single They didn't. I've seen the people on the record talk about it. Many of them support the troops but would prefer peace over war, which I think most people would. =========== From: BEATLE To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Various Date & Time: 02/06/91 05:18:35 Message Number 11928 > I said heavy metal in general. Yes, but why deal in generalities. If you makestatements about things in general, you open yourself up to problems... > Anf my statement about the way it sounds is for the most part accurate Could be. I don't remember what you said. Even Turtle will agree with you that not all heavy metal is good. I've heard him say very negative things about some groups (Poison, for one)... And if you MUST categorize music, there are a couple types of heavy metal. I know of "speed metal" and "thrash metal", and for the most part, I can't STAND thrash metal... =========== From: BEATLE To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: trivia Date & Time: 02/06/91 05:22:26 Message Number 11929 > Uhura's second language...Swahilii. Right, unless you might want to say that she knew Swahili before English. >...the color of Spock's blood. Green. =========== From: BEATLE To: DRAGONFLY Subject: trivia Date & Time: 02/06/91 05:27:19 Message Number 11930 > What color was Spock... supposed to be? And why was it changed? I /think/ that he was going to be red, and it was changed because he would look too much like the devil... By the way, Channel 44 will be running their annual Star Trek marathon next Friday (the 15th)... =========== From: JONBOY To: DRAGONFLY Subject: Give it a Rest Date & Time: 02/06/91 07:18:50 Message Number 11931 Jeez! And I was afraid that I would be *so* far behind in my required reading assignment! I see someone else has been prodding at the Specialist's achillies heel. I always wanted to know - what is the latin-ese term for a phobia of a phobia? Can we get recursive and have phobias of having phobias of having phobias? What's the limit? I did notice one thing that piqued my curiosity... who in the hell would have a fear of flutes? How many documented cases of this are there? Is it really an irrational fear (phobia) if the poor sucker that aquired the fear did so because he was pursued and subsequently ravished by a dozen satyrettes that thought the epitome of feminine desire was exemplified by Rosanne Barr (while playing the pan pipes and making general mockery of Zamphir by providing counterpoint on recorders)? What is reality? What is a reality phobia? JonBoy =========== From: JONBOY To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: Newbies Date & Time: 02/06/91 07:27:01 Message Number 11932 Besides, if everyone agreed with you, you'd have no one to argue with, and we know you wouldn't want that. Oh yes he would - The Specialist really is a nice guy (I've met him) he really doesn't want to argue something that he has as an ingrained (if irrational) belief. He *will* stand by his position (right or wrong is purely relevant). Dave is probably pretty tired of hearing that the world despises his position and would rather it drop from the list of approved "let's bash TS" list. He has stated for the record many times that he doesn't really give a shit if anyone agrees/disagrees with him just respect his position as his right to have the one that he does. *that* is the part that most folks have real trouble with. You can see that gay people have a right to their lifestyle and system of beliefs but you have to also give the bigots the same rights. Ain't it a marvellous country? Dave is entitled to despise gay people and have any sort of opinion that he wants to. JonBoy =========== From: TURTLE To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: New Topic Date & Time: 02/06/91 23:24:50 Message Number 11933 The "women are more emotionally stable" and "women have more stamina" bits come from a long and, in the end, fruitless career in psychology and physiological psychology I had in college while still pursuing a combined degree in neurobiology and computer science. There's ample evidence out there that common American sexual stereotypes are myths, including a few societies where men are considered to be too weak to do any real work. Anyway, the upshot of all this is: Women, in general, react to stress better than men. (Think about it--you don't often hear of female Type A personalities getting stress ulcers or having heart attacks at the age of 35.) Women deal better, on average (note the phrase--it does NOT imply ANYTHING about particular men and women) with physical pain, with emotional trauma, and with constant stress-- all important considerations in a battlefield. Crying has nothing to do with it. =========== From: TURTLE To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: New Topic Date & Time: 02/06/91 23:29:43 Message Number 11934 >I would like to interject with a story about endurance in men as >opposed to women. Thank you. And I would like to explain a little bit about statistics. On the average, men are better than women at standardized math tests. However, from that you cannot make any predictions about the relative performance of an average male plucked at random from the street vs. a random female plucked from the street. Group samplings apply to GROUPS, and don't allow you to make specific statements about specific individuals. If I find you a woman who can do better than you, or than I, on a standardized math test--and believe me, I can--it doesn't change the fact that men, on average, do better than women on standard- ized math tests. I say again: Women, on average, have better stamina than men. =========== From: TURTLE To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Give it a Break Date & Time: 02/06/91 23:34:29 Message Number 11935 >Who would be afraid of a pansy? Depends on the pansy. I know some pansises who could kick your ass. Nothing personal. There is also a difference between fear of physical harm and irrational fear, which the suffix "-phobia" implies to begin with. =========== From: TURTLE To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Women/Combat Date & Time: 02/06/91 23:36:25 Message Number 11936 >Rebuttal, Turtle? Nope. You raised some purely practical points (as opposed to philosophical points) that hadn't occurred to me. While I am not, in principle, opposed to the idea of women in combat, I must admit you came up with some damn good reasons for it not to happen. =========== From: TURTLE To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: -phobe? Date & Time: 02/06/91 23:37:56 Message Number 11937 I don't think the word "homopathic" has a dictionary entry, but the suffix "-pathic" generally indicates either a strong hatred for or an inability to cope with something, as in "sociopathic," "psychopathic," and even "pathology" 8the study of virulent organisms). =========== From: TURTLE To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Give it a..huh? Date & Time: 02/06/91 23:42:00 Message Number 11938 T>...but what do I know? TS>Geeze, an awful lot... Thanks! TS>...you're the warehouse for totally unneeded facts. I think. =========== From: TURTLE To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Faggot friends Date & Time: 02/06/91 23:43:11 Message Number 11939 >I won't be associated. Feeling a little sexually insecure? I am secure enough about MY sexuality that I don't give a flying fuck who gets what impression... =========== From: TURTLE To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Talismans & You Date & Time: 02/06/91 23:44:25 Message Number 11940 >Gays use it like it was some sort of talisman...to ward off normal >people. Gays don't use the word "homophobic" to describe "normal" people, they use it to describe people with an irrational hatred of gays. For that matter, so do I. =========== From: TURTLE To: DRAGONFLY Subject: -phobe? Date & Time: 02/06/91 23:46:34 Message Number 11941 >Hee hee: He's got pathos for homosexuals? I doubt it. I doubt he has >any sympathy for homosexuals... ...just like a socioPATHIC individual has no sympathy for society. I'm sure someone reasonably versed in modern English usages can figure out what the word means. =========== From: TURTLE To: DRAGONFLY Subject: Hallmark cards Date & Time: 02/06/91 23:49:52 Message Number 11942 >Hmmmm... I wonder what a meeting between the Specialist and Zjonni >would be like... They'd get along great, swapping stories about nasty situations they've been in and whatnot, until the Specialist found out...then he'd say something rude and Zjonni would kill him. =========== From: TURTLE To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: Peace & stuff Date & Time: 02/06/91 23:54:10 Message Number 11943 >Only a few of the thousands over there have died. We're getting set for a ground war. Give it time. =========== From: TURTLE To: BEATLE Subject: Various Date & Time: 02/06/91 23:55:26 Message Number 11944 Hey, Turtle doesn't have anything against Billy Joel! In fact, he thinks the new version of "Give Peace a Chance" desperately needs an infusion of Billy Joel lyrical ability: "Little Rock, Ho Chi Minh Richard Nixon back again Stockweather homicides Children of Thalydimide... All we are saaaaaying, is give peace a chance!" =========== From: TURTLE To: BEATLE Subject: protesters Date & Time: 02/06/91 23:58:34 Message Number 11945 The "back and forth" between The Specialist and myself isn't as deadly serious as you seem to think it is...we both understand that the issue is the thing. No, the rule is still in full force. =========== From: TURTLE To: BEATLE Subject: Various Date & Time: 02/07/91 00:01:23 Message Number 11946 >...I can't STAND thrash metal... Good for you. By the way, where did the subject "various" come from? I was just digging through the message base doing maintenance, and noticing that messages with that subject line were cropping up over three months ago. Anyone remember where "various" came from?? =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: trivia Date & Time: 02/07/91 02:29:42 Message Number 11947 SS> Why was Spock supposed to be red? Why? I dunno. Why was green, not blue chosen as the color of his skin? I dunno. I just got that fact from a Trek trivia book. /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: Give Peace agin Date & Time: 02/07/91 02:30:53 Message Number 11948 Actually, it will be an extremely good argument, once the ground troops start fighting. I expect that will begin within... about 72 hours. (Set your watches!) /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: JONBOY Subject: Give it a Rest Date & Time: 02/07/91 02:35:39 Message Number 11949 To answer your questions in order: Phobophobia. Yes. 42. The tubaist. 42. Yes. All there is. Panophobia, I suppose. Glad to be of assistance! /Dragonfly/ I certainly hope this message confuses you as much as your message confused me. =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: TURTLE Subject: -phobe? Date & Time: 02/07/91 02:41:02 Message Number 11950 T>...just like a socioPATHIC individual has no sympathy for society. I'm T>sure someone reasonably versed in modern English usages can figure out T>what the word means. Like the words PATHetic, emPATHIC, telePATHIC, and so forth? I get it. I speek reel gud English. /Dragonfly/ Mein Gott in Himmel! Did I really write that? Blame it on the time of night. =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: TURTLE Subject: Hallmark cards Date & Time: 02/07/91 02:45:59 Message Number 11951 Bingo! /Dragonfly/ =========== From: BEATLE To: DRAGONFLY Subject: Model 100 Date & Time: 02/07/91 17:32:00 Message Number 11953 > BTW, what ARE you planning on doing out of a 7-11? HE says he'll be taking notes and sending it back to the puter at home... but I bet he'll get some people questioning those cashiers once in a while :) =========== From: BEATLE To: TURTLE Subject: work Date & Time: 02/07/91 17:34:36 Message Number 11954 >... at The Gap or some office somewhere... Isn't The Gap one of those clothing stores at the mall? I wouldn't equate that type of job with "an office somewhere". Usually I see the bimbos working in those places. > ...very intelligent but totally unmotivated... Count me in! =========== From: BEATLE To: TURTLE Subject: ET stuff Date & Time: 02/07/91 17:41:32 Message Number 11955 > Hey, what do you think happens to the old messages...? Uh, do they go to the homeless? > They don't evaporate; they go into this motherhuge .LZH arcive... Darn, I was wrong. Anyways, I wanna wade through those some lazy weekend... It would be cool to assemble those into a book or something. =========== From: BEATLE To: TIBERIUS Subject: trivia Date & Time: 02/07/91 17:48:31 Message Number 11956 > Who was generally Bones' second in command? In the medical area? Nurse Christine Chappel (Later Doctor)... which leads me to more trivia. In both series (discounting only the cartoons and movies) of Star Trek, name all the roles that Majel Barrett has had. (That's four in all, and you already know one!!) =========== From: BEATLE To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: New Topic Date & Time: 02/07/91 17:56:52 Message Number 11957 > I mean, for examply, you're more likely to see a woman crying in > public... I know you said it was a bad example, but a lot of guys wouldn't cry in public because they wouldn't want to be seen. Its an old thing, but it still holds true for some guys. There are probably some REALLY emotionally unstable guys who wouldn't EVER cry in public and keep their problems to themselves. Of course, if you carry this out, it could make MORE problems. =========== From: BEATLE To: RUFUS Subject: Model 100 Date & Time: 02/07/91 18:01:41 Message Number 11958 > ...small hut in the Tibetan mountains... Is this where the Dali Lamma has been hiding?? =========== From: BEATLE To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Faggot friends Date & Time: 02/07/91 18:05:08 Message Number 11959 > Hanging out with gays makes others believe that you may be swinging > that way, too. I won't be asociated. I /could/ have agreed that you were not afraid of gays, but not since I read that. THAT scenario screams fear. It insinuates to me that you would be afraid to associate with people your "friends" didn't like. I really wouldn't worry about that myself, since most of the people I know are pretty liberal. =========== From: BEATLE To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Give Peace agin Date & Time: 02/07/91 18:11:15 Message Number 11960 I don't believe that if you advocate non-violence, it doesn't mean that you wouldn't fight. Most people would rather have peace than war, so does that mean that they wouldn't fight if they had to? I don't really want to get into the war, or any conflict because a) I wouldn't like it b) I wouldn't be very confident that I would do very well and c) I hope the war wouldn't be that serious. This doesn't mean that if I was called to go, I would "go to Canada" (what a cliche)... I would do what I was told to do. =========== From: BEATLE To: DRAGONFLY Subject: Model 100 Date & Time: 02/07/91 18:17:46 Message Number 11961 > Aha... What DO you do with a Toad Slurpee...? You could probably sell it to an underfunded science department at a local school. =========== From: BEATLE To: JONBOY Subject: Newbies Date & Time: 02/07/91 18:27:27 Message Number 11962 > ...but you have to also give the bigots the same rights. How true... but we just like to fight ignorance here. Y'know, a lot of us are members of the Junior Chaper of Ultra Sheep. :) =========== From: BEATLE To: TURTLE Subject: Various Date & Time: 02/07/91 18:31:26 Message Number 11963 > Hey! Turtle doesn't have anything against Billy Joelll... I'm not sure to take that as sarcastic or not based on the rest of the rest of the message... and I never meant to imply that you had anything against him, just that I like him better than you. > ... an infusion of lyrical ability... Actually, the two songs are practically the SAME. Think about it. A mess of lyrics that just rattle off a list with a repeating chorus with no bearing on the rest of the song, which also contains the main statement (and title) of the song... Gee, that's pretty amazing, ain't it. =========== From: BEATLE To: TURTLE Subject: Various Date & Time: 02/07/91 18:37:03 Message Number 11964 > Anyone remember where "various" came from?? I thought that WE asked YOU those questions. :) =========== From: BEATLE To: DRAGONFLY Subject: Hallmark cards Date & Time: 02/07/91 18:39:54 Message Number 11965 > Bingo! Did that have anything to do with the previous "Mein Got Heimell"?? BTW, what does the above badly quoted, most likely German, phrase mean? I hope it's worthy of the laughter it caused me. Gee, I laugh at everything. =========== From: BEATLE To: BEATLE Subject: Various Date & Time: 02/07/91 18:43:22 Message Number 11966 > ...that I like him better than you... Egads! Did I actually SAY that... Geesh, I hate when my English skills elude me. At least I'm confused as hell since we started reading Shakespeare. The funny thing is that I'm /understanding/ it. =========== From: TURTLE To: BEATLE Subject: work Date & Time: 02/07/91 20:14:59 Message Number 11967 The Gap is a mall clothing store. The average, run-of-the-mill person with little experience is more likely to take a job at a shopping mall or at an office than at a McDonald's; you don't get much in the way of average anyone at McDonald's. The very stupid or the very bright (and sometimes the VERY weird), but not a lot of in-between. =========== From: TURTLE To: BEATLE Subject: Various Date & Time: 02/07/91 20:18:20 Message Number 11968 The songs Give Peace a Chance and We Didn't Start The Fire are /nothing/ alike. The lyrics to We Didn't Start have EVERYTHING to do with the chorus. That song is a response to something one of Billy Joel's fans told him one day, along the lines of "All the world's problems started after the 60's and if everyone were today the way they were then we wouldn't have these problems. They are all the fault of the current generation." The song is a litany of the social and political problems that occurred before or had their roots in the 60's and 70's, and the refrain "We Didn't Start the Fire" is directly related to those lyrics. What he's saying is "Hey, look, we didn't start all these problems; look at this, this, and this, all of which were not the respnsibility of the current generation." If you don't think that the lyrics and refrain have anything to do with each other, you don't get the song. =========== From: TURTLE To: BEATLE Subject: Hallmark cards Date & Time: 02/07/91 20:22:33 Message Number 11969 "Mein Gott im Himmel" means "My God in Heaven." Simple, ja? =========== From: SCOTT STEEL To: BEATLE Subject: Various Date & Time: 02/07/91 23:53:10 Message Number 11970 B> Speed metal and thrash metal... It's about time that /someone/ pointed out the fact that there are categories to Heavy Metal. Personally, speed metal I hate speed metal. But I do like some thrash. I love mushing too. I hate satan- metal (if you will), groups like Vemon and King Diamond. =========== From: SCOTT STEEL To: BEATLE Subject: trivia Date & Time: 02/07/91 23:56:08 Message Number 11971 B> 44 is running their Star Trek marathon next Firday... Yes, I know, and I gonna tape too. =========== From: SCOTT STEEL To: JONBOY Subject: Give it a Rest Date & Time: 02/07/91 23:57:45 Message Number 11972 JB> Stupid shit....stupid shit...more stupid shit.... What is a reality phobia? Boy, Jonboy, you write some of the most useless stuff I've ever had the unfortunate pleasure(?) of reading. But to answer your question...as least as far as you're concerned... the fear of growing up! =========== From: SCOTT STEEL To: JONBOY Subject: Newbies Date & Time: 02/08/91 00:01:14 Message Number 11973 Newbies..what in hell do you mean by that statement? Just for your information, seems to me that you think that I don't know the Specialist that well, well, NEWS FLASH, We're roommates. =========== From: SCOTT STEEL To: TURTLE Subject: New Topic Date & Time: 02/08/91 00:04:50 Message Number 11974 Not to disregard your statement, but I don't you could find a woman who could do better than me on a standardized math test. I /did/ graduate with honors in Math. =========== From: SCOTT STEEL To: BEATLE Subject: trivia Date & Time: 02/08/91 00:16:37 Message Number 11975 B> What's Sulu's first name? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Ummmmmm....Hmmmmmmm...Ummmmmmmm...hmmmmmmm.....(Damn).....hmmmmmmummmmm Got me there. But please /no/ one post the answer until I ask for the answer. I do believe I know this one, but I'm tired and the brain isn't running at optimum proficiency. Thanks. Good question. =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: DRAGONFLY Subject: Give it a Rest Date & Time: 02/08/91 00:22:11 Message Number 11976 DF>[lesbian] was an extremely good business-person, [etc] So what? There's a lot of hetros who are extremely good at what they do too, but so what? =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: DRAGONFLY Subject: Give it a Rest Date & Time: 02/08/91 00:27:53 Message Number 11977 DF>...nobody in her right mind... Eh? "her" right mind? Was that a typo or do you speak from personal experience? =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: DRAGONFLY Subject: Give Peace agin Date & Time: 02/08/91 00:30:15 Message Number 11978 My point was this: What good is a pacifist's opinion, when it comes to anything war related? All they can tell you is that you shouldn't fight. And one more thing...this war is not for the sake of convenience. It is a necessary war. Petty dictators like Hussien, left unchecked turn into Hitlers. And whether you like it or not, this country runs on oil, and isn't likely to change in the near future. So if it means sending troops over there to stop a mideast takeover, then it needs to be done. Bush made a choice, the lesser of the two evils. You saw how people got riled when the oil companies raised thier prices 15 to 20 cents; what if they'd raised it a dollar, not because they wanted to, but because that's what they were paying? Figure the odds. If we let Hussien do what he wanted, then that's what'd probably happen. Furthermore, don't chew me out because I am willing to bear out my responsibilities to this country and someone else doesn't want to do SHIT for his country. =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: Give it a Rest Date & Time: 02/08/91 00:37:39 Message Number 11979 SS>I bet there are plenty of faggots out there who could ring your SS> neck... I doubt it, my neck's not very musical. SS>Being homosexual doesn't make them a winp or a push-over in a fight. Yes, Max pointed out to me that he knew a tough one or two. The ones who are tough are few and far between, though, and for the most part they are a pretty sorry lot. Besides, I have no problem with killing the ones who *can* beat me. Self defense, doncha know. He was gonna beat me up. Yes, sir, that's why I shot the mother. Oh, I know, he took the whole 30 round clip before he sat down, I guess my finger locked up or something. Here, you don't look so bad. BRRRRRRRRRRRRAP! Scum. =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: Faggot friends Date & Time: 02/08/91 00:45:20 Message Number 11980 SS>blah, blah, blah...they are human, too, ya know, blah, blah Yes, and so are the mongoloids, and the lepers, but I don't hang out with them. SS>..cannon fodder, blah, blah Only if they got in the way. SS> Besides, if everyone agreed with you, you'd have no one to argue SS> with If everyone agreed with me, then Turtle would hate fags too. But if everyone agreed with me, then there would *BE* no fags, and I would want that. =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: trivia Date & Time: 02/08/91 00:48:00 Message Number 11981 T & TS> hen party... SS>Duh, I don't get it? ...what's the joke? Fags act like old ladies at a tea party. (Or a hen party, where old ladies get together and gossip and the like). =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: Give it a Rest Date & Time: 02/08/91 00:49:35 Message Number 11982 =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: trivia Date & Time: 02/08/91 00:50:18 Message Number 11983 SS>Why was Spock supposed to be red? Something about he was supposed to be from Mars, I think. =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: BEATLE Subject: Various Date & Time: 02/08/91 00:51:29 Message Number 11984 B>With some more persuasion, you could like HM (well, some of it)... What kind of "persuasion" are we talking about here? Torture? Threats? Blackmail? Otherwise, I think not. =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: BEATLE Subject: (Part III Date & Time: 02/08/91 00:52:59 Message Number 11985 B>Thanks for the history lesson. You're welcome. I'm still waiting for Turtle's rebuttal. =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: NIGHT OWL Subject: PB& ??? Date & Time: 02/08/91 00:54:05 Message Number 11986 NOx>...fav thing with peanut butter... Bannanas. =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: BEATLE Subject: Give it a Rest Date & Time: 02/08/91 00:55:59 Message Number 11987 B>The question is: How would you act if you met one. This would B>determine if homophobia went along with your hatred. Depends, I suppose. If he was introduced to me and didn't act like a flaming faggot, and didn't show any telltale signs, and no one told me that he was, I imagine I'd treat him like anyone else. But if he was introduced to me, acted like a flaming faggot, I'd be ...I'd stay away from him as much as possible, and if he approched me, I'd warn him that I am the violent type, and if he didn't go away right away, I wouldn't hesitate to demonstrate. I absolutely HATE that type of behavior. But, if someone told me he was a faggot, and he didn't act like one at all, then I'd reserve my judgement until all the facts were in. Kinda stay back but watch closely. Can't automatically assume someone is a fag just because you are told he is. Unless, he admitted it. Then in that case, I'd stay away from him, and treat him as if he were a flamer, like in example one. An admitted fag is almost as bad as a flamboyant flamer. There are exceptions to the above, like for instance if an admitted fag who was not a flamer needed my help and I was the only one who could help him then I guess (depending on the severity of the need) I would help. This is an extreme exception. =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: JONBOY Subject: Give it a Rest Date & Time: 02/08/91 01:06:51 Message Number 11988 Ah, JB, I see that your back... =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: JONBOY Subject: Newbies Date & Time: 02/08/91 01:08:05 Message Number 11989 Ah, eloquently put, JB. JB>...that he really doesn't give a shit... JB>...also have to give bigots the same rights. Ain't it a marvelous JB>country? Ah, yes, well put...well put indeed. And it is a *marvelous* country. =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: TURTLE Subject: Give it a Break Date & Time: 02/08/91 01:11:24 Message Number 11990 T>There is also a difference between fear of physical harm and T>irrational fear, which the suffix "-phobia" implies... I do not have fear, period. Not for physical harm, certainly. And not other peripheral fears, either. Stop trying to make the word fit, Turtle. It simply doesn't apply. =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: TURTLE Subject: Women/Combat Date & Time: 02/08/91 01:18:36 Message Number 11991 T>While I am not, in principle, opposed to the idea of women in comat, T>I must admit that you came up with some damn good resons for it not T>to happen. Lemme get this straight. Philisophically, you would like to see women in combat, kinda like the ERA thing, but practically you know it can't (or shouldn't be allowed to) happen. So with this in mind, can we say that you and I agree? Because certainly, that is the way that I look at it. =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: TURTLE Subject: -pathy Date & Time: 02/08/91 01:21:06 Message Number 11992 T>...indicates either a stong hatred for or an inablity to cope with T>something... Ah, yes, that's perfect. A strong hatred indeed...but I can cope to a point. =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: TURTLE Subject: Give it a..huh? Date & Time: 02/08/91 01:22:38 Message Number 11993 T>But what do I know? TS>>Geeze, an awful lot... T>Thanks! TS>>Your're the warehouse for totally unneeded facts. T>I think. I know. You think too much, somethimes. =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: TURTLE Subject: Faggot friends Date & Time: 02/08/91 01:23:57 Message Number 11994 TS>>I won't be associated. T>Feeling a little sexually insecure? I am secure enough about MY T>sexuality that I don't give a flying fuck who get's what impression... Apparently. Even though, you are looking at it from *your* viewpoint, and not mine. I HATE fags, and I simply don't want to be associated with a bunch of cock suckers. My "sexuality" has nothing to do with the issue, other than mine is normal and thiers are perverted. =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: TURTLE Subject: Talismans & You Date & Time: 02/08/91 01:26:56 Message Number 11995 T>...they use it to describe people with an irrational hatred of gays. T>For that matter, so do I. Then you both use it inaccurately. And most of the ones you describe actually are normal. =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: TURTLE Subject: Hallmark cards Date & Time: 02/08/91 01:29:12 Message Number 11996 T>...he'd say something rude and Zjonni would kill him. Thanks for the warning. I'll bring a "bigger gun". =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: TURTLE Subject: Various Date & Time: 02/08/91 01:30:20 Message Number 11997 T>...desperately needs an infusion of Billy Joel lyrical ability: T> [etc] Oh, please! I'm sure he wouldn't lower his standards. =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: BEATLE Subject: Faggot friends Date & Time: 02/08/91 01:35:03 Message Number 11998 B>THAT scenario screams fear. It insinuates to me that you would be B>afraid to associate with people your "friends" didn't like. No, again, you are looking at it from *your* viewpoint. I won't that is, I don't want ANYONE to think I am gay, not just my friends. Besides, anyone who knows me knows I hate gays, so I'm not worried at all about what my friends think. And most of my friends are pretty liberal too (tolerate gays). I got news for you people...I am dropping this thread. =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: BEATLE Subject: Hallmark cards Date & Time: 02/08/91 01:40:32 Message Number 11999 DF>>Bingo! DF>>Mien Got [sic] Heimell! B>...what does the above...mean? I believe it means, "My God, Heimell!" =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: Various Date & Time: 02/08/91 01:43:18 Message Number 12000 SS>I love mushing too. Do you by any chance, mean "moshing" =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: Newbies Date & Time: 02/08/91 01:44:15 Message Number 12001 SS>The Specialist...NEWS FLASH, we're roommates. Ah, just to clarify, we are APPARTMENT CO-DWELLERs. Sorry, Scot, the word roommate is just a little *too* chummy. =========== From: MYCROFT HOLMES To: ALL Subject: Chaos??? Date & Time: 02/08/91 03:28:12 Message Number 12002 Anyone know what happed to Courts of Chaos? I called this morning at about 3:00 and I got a "this # is no longer in service" message Does anyone have the what up on this???? Thanks, Myke =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: BEATLE Subject: Model 100 Date & Time: 02/08/91 08:08:23 Message Number 12003 DF> Aha... What DO you do with a Toad Slurpee...? B> You could probably sell it to an underfunded science department at a B> local school. Naaaah. Toad Slurpees have all the toad parts mixed together into one toad mass, organs, bones, skin, and muscles. Not much use in a Biology department. /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: BEATLE Subject: Hallmark cards Date & Time: 02/08/91 08:14:19 Message Number 12004 "Mein Gott in Himmell" means "My God in Heaven," a reasonably mild and reasonably common German exclamation. What did you THINK it meant? /DF/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: New Topic Date & Time: 02/08/91 08:19:00 Message Number 12005 SS> Not to disregard your statement, but I don't you could find a SS> woman who could do better than me on a standardized math test. SS> I /did/ graduate with honors in Math. I know of several female New College math graduates. (Graduates of New College automatically get a 3.5 GPA -- I don't remember if that's magma cum laude or summa cum laude.) Which graduate schools did you get into? /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Give it a Rest Date & Time: 02/08/91 08:22:58 Message Number 12006 DF>[lesbian] was an extremely good business-person, [etc] TS> So what? There's a lot of hetros [sic] who are extremely good at TS> what they do too, but so what? I'd say that's everything to the topic, Specialist. You agree that one's sexuality has nothing to do with how good of a business-person one is, right? Going further, I (and probably Turtle) believe one's sexuality has little to do with any of one's talents. Or how likeable or unlikeable that person is. /Dragonfly/ Think about skin color in the Army. I'm sure you know some blacks/ whites/yellows/browns who you personally don't care for, despite their skin color. And think of others who you like, despite their skin color. I think similarly about sexual preference. =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Give it a Rest Date & Time: 02/08/91 08:34:26 Message Number 12007 TS> Eh? "her" right mind? Was that a typo or do you speak from personal TS> experience? A typo. I meant to type 'their.' /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Give Peace agin Date & Time: 02/08/91 08:36:36 Message Number 12008 This conversation sounds familiar. What good is a war hawk's opinion on anything war related? All he'll (or she'll) tell you is you should fight. Face it: for good or bad, we live in a democracy. If there's enough popular support for a war, we fight. If enough pacifists come into the scene (especially if enough voting pacifists come into the scene!), we withdraw. Politicians care only about one thing: staying in office. If withdrawing troops from the Middle East will keep them in office, so muc the better. My personal position on the war is that it is not a just war. Yes, we have an excellent reason for starting the war (the takeover of Kuwait is more than sufficient reason.) We have an international organization on our side as well. My fault with the war: we did not try out all possible other measures to prevent the need for war. You know that I don't feel the sanctions were given enough time! Five months' sanctions, and you expect Saddam to fall to his knees? No way. I feel the greatest of all goods would be to starve Iraq out of Kuwait. Finally, not one of the users of this board (that I've noticed!) has claimed that they would be draft-dodging, should the war come down to that. I certainly would have the easiest time of it: not only do I speak Spanish, but my parents own a house in Mexico. Much better climate than Canada, no? Even still, I would mention my several physical problems. When I scored within the top 10 percentile on the pre-ASVAB, I got calls from all the U.S. armed forces... I mentioned my problems to each, and they stopped calling. /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Give it a Break Date & Time: 02/08/91 08:58:15 Message Number 12009 I just thought of something none of us have asked you: ] Do you feel homosexuals choose to feel that way? I'm not asking whether or not a homosexual chooses whether to sleep with another of his/her same gender. I'm asking whether a homosexual chose to have the sexual interests he/she has. Another question for you in the same vein: If a homosexual never slept with someone of his/her gender, would you still consider that person a homosexual? /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: ALL Subject: New lingo Date & Time: 02/08/91 09:06:46 Message Number 12010 In an effort to be Politically Correct, and create a Non-Gender Specific English (herein referred to NGS English), Dragonfly is adding a new word to the a/R lexicon... or, at least Dragonfly's dictionary. The word is "thon," short for "that one," meaning "he, she, or it." Why bother? I've said several times before that English needs a non- gender specific pronoun. 'Thon' was one of the most successful, back in the 19th century. I'm giving it a second shot. Instead of saying something like, '...with another of his/her same gender...", I'll be saying: '...with another of thon's gender...' Instead of saying: 'God lives! He, She, or the Divine It still brings people closer to Him, Her, or It!", I'd be saying: "God lives! Thon still brings people closer to Thon!" Thank you for your support. =========== From: TURTLE To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: New Topic Date & Time: 02/08/91 20:22:04 Message Number 12012 >...I don't think you could find a woman who could do better than me >on a standardized math test. I dunno...I bet I'd only have to look as far as The Armadillo Connection. One of the furry echo users, who goes by "Mel. White," has a master's degree in mathematics, and on the furry tech echo was just talking about using Forier transformations to reduce a large data file to a waveform, so as to make it smaller by only storing the harmonics of that waveform... She's married to a Ph.D. in chaos theory, too. =========== From: TURTLE To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Viet Nam histry Date & Time: 02/08/91 20:26:22 Message Number 12013 >Thanks a lot. I'm still waiting for Turtle's rebuttal. 'Fraid you'll have a while to wait...with the exception of your claim that a significant number of the protestors weren't protesting the war per se, which is a thesis I don't buy, I found it surprisingly accurate. You could have gone into more detail, about China's involve- ment in the situation and Cambodia's lack thereof, but it was pretty good for a thumbnail sketch of the situation. =========== From: TURTLE To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Women/Combat Date & Time: 02/08/91 20:29:37 Message Number 12014 >So with this in mind, can we say that you and I agree? Well...er, uh...that is, well, um, yes. (God, that hurt!) =========== From: TURTLE To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Various Date & Time: 02/08/91 20:31:18 Message Number 12015 >Oh, please! I'm sure [Billy Joel] wouldn't lower his standards. Probably not, but I do wish the people who wrote "Give Peace a Chance" would RAISE theirs... I still want to know where the subject line "various" came from. =========== From: TURTLE To: MYCROFT HOLMES Subject: Chaos??? Date & Time: 02/08/91 20:32:56 Message Number 12016 Couldn't tell you. It's happened before though, and not just to CoC; it seems GTE has a chronic inability to deal with multiple phone lines to one customer. I've heard a couple of multi-line BBS sysops bitch and moan that GTE is always disconnecting their phone lines because they lose track of which payment goes to which line... =========== From: KNIGHT OWL To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: PB& ??? Date & Time: 02/08/91 23:51:38 Message Number 12017 KoO>...fav thing with peanut butter... TS> Bananas. That's a pretty popular goodie to go with PB. I also like peanut butter with honey o apple butter. I know someone who puts it (PB in their chilli. Do you prefer smooth or crunchy? I like crunchy. have you ever had fried bananas? They're good. My mom used to call 'em fried caterpillars. I haven't had one i over a decade. SEE YA! Knight Owl =========== From: KNIGHT OWL To: DRAGONFLY Subject: thon Date & Time: 02/09/91 00:05:21 Message Number 12018 That's a neat idea. It's also a good word for scrabble too :). =========== From: KNIGHT OWL To: TURTLE Subject: phone lines Date & Time: 02/09/91 00:10:34 Message Number 12019 John Carr's having trouble with GTE.When you dial his BBS #, it rgs, but won't answer. He connected a phone to listen, and he says there's a hum of some sort. It's been over 2 weeks since he called GTE. =========== From: BEATLE To: TURTLE Subject: Various Date & Time: 02/09/91 00:47:51 Message Number 12021 >...you don't get the song. Maybe true, but criticism of lyrics isn't one of my stronger points. I would be more apt to come up with the conclusion you presented if a) the lyrics all were "problems" and b) they covered time period you just mentioned. Ignore me, though. I don't pay /too/ much attention to what the lyrics mean, I mean, geeesh, I like the B'52s! =========== From: BEATLE To: TURTLE Subject: Hallmark cards Date & Time: 02/09/91 00:50:56 Message Number 12022 > Simple, ja? I suppose so. =========== From: BEATLE To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: trivia Date & Time: 02/09/91 00:51:36 Message Number 12023 > Yes, I know, and I gonna tape too. The televised Treks are the worst way to see them. I've yet to see one in its original form, though. I do, however have the butchered episodes on tape (yeah, I got most of those 79!) except for a couple (2, I think) that I still need... =========== From: BEATLE To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Give it a Rest Date & Time: 02/09/91 00:54:20 Message Number 12024 > There's a lot of hetros [sic] who are who are extremely good at what > they do too, but so what? You don't want to shoot /them/. =========== From: BEATLE To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Various Date & Time: 02/09/91 00:57:23 Message Number 12025 > What kind of "persuasion" are we talking about here? Not much, just a little exposure to more heavy metal similar to what you already like. I think Turtle can field that dut (if he wants to)... =========== From: BEATLE To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Give it a Rest Date & Time: 02/09/91 00:59:35 Message Number 12026 Thanks for answering my question. I think Turtle and Max might be surprised and happy to hear that, for the most part. As long as you stick to what you just said, and don't just go off and maim someone because they're a "faggot", then I guess it's a nice medium we could live with... I don't really feel any need to continue with you on the subject... it was pretty much tired out not long ago, correct? =========== From: BEATLE To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Give it a Break Date & Time: 02/09/91 01:02:43 Message Number 12027 > I do not have fear, period. Come on, doesn't everyone fear SOMETHING to even a small extent? I know I've got too many fears. I've got acrophobia, and whatever you'd call being afraid to ask girls out... =========== From: SAAVIK To: BEATLE Subject: Trivia Date & Time: 02/09/91 12:23:38 Message Number 12031 What is the vulcan death grip? =========== From: RUFUS To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: PB&J Date & Time: 02/09/91 12:46:19 Message Number 12032 The consistency depends on what speed you use on your blender. The first 'space food' was just that, food blended up in a blender and stuck in a tube like that which toothpaste comes in. Now adays they have shrimp cocktail... =========== From: RUFUS To: BEATLE Subject: Model 100 Date & Time: 02/09/91 16:34:58 Message Number 12033 >Is this where the Dali Lamma had been hiding?? Nope, he;s with Walt Disney, Jimmy Hoffa, and Elvis, hiding in those underground passages at Disney World. The hut I'm talking about is a storage area for VW carbs, Twinkies, and the stuff used in Lava lamps. =========== From: RUFUS To: BEATLE Subject: Model 100 Date & Time: 02/09/91 16:37:28 Message Number 12034 > You could probably sell it to an underfunded science department at a >local school. I bet Booker would buy it for $1 or $2 million. After all, they did spend a large amount on sports medicine. Geesh...I HATE how much money goes to athletics in our educational (did I say educational, why yes I did) system. =========== From: TURTLE To: CORWYN Subject: what? Date & Time: 02/09/91 17:33:34 Message Number 12036 Kool! Nice to see you back...I'm not too likely to be returning to New College any time soon, but who knows? Gotta find a better job, though... =========== From: TURTLE To: CORWYN Subject: Raven. Date & Time: 02/09/91 17:34:15 Message Number 12037 Raven's been kidnapped by space aliens. Actually, he moved (to Venice) and hasn't been seen in these parts for several months. =========== From: TURTLE To: KNIGHT OWL Subject: phone lines Date & Time: 02/09/91 17:36:49 Message Number 12038 >He connected a phone to listen, and he says there's a hum of some >sort. Welcome him to the wonderful world of institutional Fascism, then..he's being tapped. The modem won't pick up the phone most likely because the tap has caused a drop in line voltage that's large enough that his modem can't detect the ring signal. Using a different modem might help; he can also bitch at GTE, but that probably won't accomplish anything. =========== From: TIBERIUS To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: trivia Date & Time: 02/09/91 17:44:20 Message Number 12039 I figured that was Majel Barrett's voice when I heard some of the inflections in it! Lessee....'nuther question........Does ANYBODY like Wesley?? Hehe. =========== From: TIBERIUS To: RUFUS Subject: PB&J Date & Time: 02/09/91 17:47:17 Message Number 12040 > white bread (I hate wheat, oat, bran, etc.) WHITE BREAD!?!?!? Yuuuuukkkk. Do you realized that white bread is what's left after you take all the good stuff out of grains???? =========== From: TIBERIUS To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: trivia Date & Time: 02/09/91 17:49:58 Message Number 12041 >Hen party, Sorry, my brother has me indoctrinated in the ways of a FULL-FLEDGED heterosexual. =========== From: TIBERIUS To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: PB&J Date & Time: 02/09/91 17:51:35 Message Number 12042 >How do they clean their knives neatly? Eas`. On their shirttails. That way you can tuck it back in and nobody knows the difference. And you have a bedtime snack to suck on, too. =========== From: TIBERIUS To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: trivia Date & Time: 02/09/91 17:53:19 Message Number 12043 > Nurse Chapel. What was her first name? Christine. =========== From: TIBERIUS To: NIGHT OWL Subject: PB&J Date & Time: 02/09/91 17:54:34 Message Number 12044 I believe it was the Tonight show I saw it on. My favorite thing to do with PB is to buy it in Reese's PB cups and freeze it dead solid, eat the chocolate from around it, and then put the PB between cheek and gum like a chaw of tobacco and let it melt for hours!! =========== From: TIBERIUS To: BEATLE Subject: trivia Date & Time: 02/09/91 17:58:00 Message Number 12045 >name all the roles that Majel Barrett has had. Hmmmm, Well we've already discussed two, that of Nurse and as voice of the computer on STTNG. As for the other two,I can't remember. I do remember that in the original movie, wasn't she a transporter tech? =========== From: KNIGHT OWL To: SAAVIK Subject: Trivia Date & Time: 02/10/91 03:12:00 Message Number 12046 S> What is the vulcan death grip? Deadly. seriously though, isn't a grip on the muscle between the shoulder and the neck? =========== From: KNIGHT OWL To: TIBERIUS Subject: PB&J Date & Time: 02/10/91 03:15:45 Message Number 12047 White bread's not among any of my favorites either. There's nothing PB&J toasted whole wheat. =========== From: KNIGHT OWL To: TIBERIUS Subject: PB&J Date & Time: 02/10/91 03:18:16 Message Number 12048 Frozen Reese's sounds good, I'll have to try it sometime. SEE YA! Knight Owl =========== From: SCOTT STEEL To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Various Date & Time: 02/10/91 03:33:15 Message Number 12049 TS> Do you by any chance, mean "moshing" Yes! =========== From: SCOTT STEEL To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Newbies Date & Time: 02/10/91 03:34:06 Message Number 12050 TS> Ah, just to clarify, we are APPARTMENT (sic) CO-DWELLERS. Sorry, Scot (sic, argggh, that's Scott), the word roommate is just a little *too* chummy. That wouldn't be because of the recent threads on homosexuality. You know, sometimes, I think you too paranoid. Even for your own good. =========== From: SCOTT STEEL To: DRAGONFLY Subject: New Topic Date & Time: 02/10/91 03:38:24 Message Number 12051 DF> What graduate schools did you get into? How old are you anyway? Did you attend college? BTW< I got accepted at Marist University in Poughkeepsie, N.Y. They have one of the top-ten math departments in the country. But I couldn't effort to attend. Right now I'm studying to be an accoun -tant. Damn, I hate no having word wrap. =========== From: SCOTT STEEL To: TURTLE Subject: Women/Combat Date & Time: 02/10/91 03:45:10 Message Number 12052 TS> So with this in mind, can we say that you and I agree? T> Well...er,uh...that is well, um, yes. (Gos that hurt!) HOLY SHIT..... Stop the presses. Someone check to see if the earth's still in its proper orbit. Turtle and The Specialist actually agreed on something! =========== From: SCOTT STEEL To: KNIGHT OWL Subject: PB& ??? Date & Time: 02/10/91 03:48:25 Message Number 12053 As far as peanut butter goes, I prefer crunchy. =========== From: SCOTT STEEL To: BEATLE Subject: trivia Date & Time: 02/10/91 03:49:58 Message Number 12054 I believe there were 84 or 86 episodes made of Star Trek. =========== From: SCOTT STEEL To: TIBERIUS Subject: trivia Date & Time: 02/10/91 03:53:04 Message Number 12055 TI> Does anybody like Wesley. NO!NO!NO!NO!NO! =========== From: SCOTT STEEL To: KNIGHT OWL Subject: Trivia Date & Time: 02/10/91 03:55:08 Message Number 12056 S> What is the vulcan death grip? KO> Deadly. KO> Seriously though, isn't a grip on the muscle between the shoulde and the neck? Well, you're both wrong to a degree. First of all there's is no such thing as the Vulcan death grip. It's was used as a ploy in one episode, nothing more. In response to you, KO, The act you descibed is used to knock people out but I doesn't kill them. =========== From: BEATLE To: SAAVIK Subject: Trivia Date & Time: 02/10/91 10:29:59 Message Number 12058 > What is the vulcan death grip? It doesn't exist. It was referred to once, however, and was used to trick someone (can't remember WHERE though)... =========== From: BEATLE To: RUFUS Subject: Model 100 Date & Time: 02/10/91 10:31:32 Message Number 12059 >... hiding in those underground passages at Disney World. Hmmmm.... > ...the stuff used in lava lamps. How is that stored? And it must keep the guy busy too. And by the way, what IS the state of that stuff? It looks thicker than liquid, and it can't be plasma, so is it colloid? =========== From: BEATLE To: RUFUS Subject: Model 100 Date & Time: 02/10/91 10:34:26 Message Number 12060 > I HATE how much money goes to athletics in our educational... sytem. Especially when we have smarter bombs. At least they know where Kuwait is. :) =========== From: BEATLE To: TIBERIUS Subject: trivia Date & Time: 02/10/91 10:35:59 Message Number 12061 > Does ANYBODY like Wesley?? I do. =========== From: BEATLE To: TIBERIUS Subject: trivia Date & Time: 02/10/91 10:37:20 Message Number 12062 > I do remember that in the original movie, wasn't she a transporter > tech? No, but she WAS in the Star Trek pilot. =========== From: BEATLE To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: trivia Date & Time: 02/10/91 10:39:51 Message Number 12063 > I believe there were 84 or 86 episodes made of Star Trek. :: giving puzzled look :: :: thinking: Am I wrong? :: :: searching for reference material :: :: flip, flip, flip :: :: satisfied grin :: Nope, 79. :) =========== From: SCOTT STEEL To: BEATLE Subject: trivia Date & Time: 02/10/91 11:47:51 Message Number 12064 Ti> Soes ANYBODY like Wesley? B> Ido. Why? =========== From: SCOTT STEEL To: BEATLE Subject: trivia Date & Time: 02/10/91 11:49:19 Message Number 12065 What's this Star Trek reference material? Is it the Star Trek Compendium? BTW, what /is/ Sulu's first name? I give up. =========== From: RUFUS To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: Newbies Date & Time: 02/10/91 12:23:46 Message Number 12066 I want to know what TS thinks of all the people away at college living in the same room! Oh my gosh...ewww....sick...that escuse of limited housing just doesn't fly. :) =========== From: RUFUS To: BEATLE Subject: Model 100 Date & Time: 02/10/91 12:25:53 Message Number 12067 Lave lamp stuff is made up of 11 secret ingredients (hmmm, sounds like KFC chicken, 11 herbs and spices. Is it the same stuff?). It was invented sometime in the '60's by some guy whos name I can't recall right now. I'm not sure what you'd classify the stuff as. =========== From: SAAVIK To: BEATLE Subject: Vulcan Death Gr Date & Time: 02/10/91 13:02:36 Message Number 12068 Used in the Enterprize Incident to make Romulans believe that Spock kill ed Kirk. Am I right? =========== From: TURTLE To: TIBERIUS Subject: trivia Date & Time: 02/10/91 16:50:00 Message Number 12069 >Does ANYBODY like Wesley? Is that a trick question?? =========== From: TURTLE To: TIBERIUS Subject: Full-fledged Date & Time: 02/10/91 16:50:38 Message Number 12070 >Sorry, my brother has indoctrinated me into the ways of a FULL- >FLEDGED heterosexual. Sounds like he's done more than that. I am a full-fledged heterosexual, in the sense that I'd rather have my lungs removed with chainsaws than (yuk!) sleep with another male, but that doesn't make me a FULL- FLEDGED bigot. =========== From: KNIGHT OWL To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: V.D.G Date & Time: 02/10/91 23:02:10 Message Number 12073 Oh well, it was a wild guess as to what the Vulcan death grip was. Was it 'acted out' in the ploy? if so, how was it done, or was it just mentioned? SEE YA! Knight Owl =========== From: KNIGHT OWL To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: R.P.C. Date & Time: 02/10/91 23:04:14 Message Number 12074 The small Reese's peanut putter cups would be pretty good for freezing. SEE YA! Knight Owl (trivia [to which I don't know the answer]) M&M's were invented during WW (l or ll). What did the M's stand for? =========== From: SCOTT STEEL To: SAAVIK Subject: Vulcan Death Gr Date & Time: 02/11/91 01:13:57 Message Number 12075 SA> Used in the Enterprise Incident to make the Romulans believe that SA> killed Kirk. Am I right? I think so. But now quite sure. Are you refering to the show where Kirk, Bones, Spock and Uhura, all beamed over, accidently, to a negative dimensions. (where Spock had the beard. I can't remember the episode, but of you verify the show, I can scan my memory for exact details of the show. I'm having trouble placing the scene. =========== From: SCOTT STEEL To: TURTLE Subject: Date & Time: 02/11/91 01:17:59 Message Number 12076 t> ...lungs removed with chainsaws.... God that sounds painfully. =========== From: SCOTT STEEL To: KNIGHT OWL Subject: V.D.G Date & Time: 02/11/91 01:19:28 Message Number 12077 Ploy vs. 'acted out'? Boy, hmmmm...I think it was acted out. The finger spread used with the mind-meld, and the position of the Vulcan neck pinch. (On neck, closer the shoulder than head.) =========== From: SAAVIK To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: Enterprize Inc Date & Time: 02/11/91 13:56:28 Message Number 12078 It was the show with the Romulan Babe who had it bad for Spock. Remember the line (ouch, I forgot the line) something about his being into her mind. Spock had to convice her that Kirk was off his rocker or something and he was in charge. I dunno, all of a sudden, I'm drawing blanks. I'll cheat and scan the Compendium. I have at least 7 ST reference books and almost every novel written since the show ended. =========== From: SAAVIK To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: Sulu's Name Date & Time: 02/11/91 14:03:53 Message Number 12079 See if I can spell Sulu 's first name. Hiruksu? Hirushu, Am I close? How about McCoy's daughter, remember her name? =========== From: SAAVIK To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: Wesley Date & Time: 02/11/91 14:05:28 Message Number 12080 Aw, come on. I think he's kind of cute. =========== From: SCOTT STEEL To: SAAVIK Subject: Enterprize Inc Date & Time: 02/11/91 16:40:37 Message Number 12081 Geez, you have enough reference books? More details, please. BTW, no offense, but are you male or feamle. The reason for asking is because Lt Saavil was a female, but most fans of ST are guys. =========== From: SCOTT STEEL To: SAAVIK Subject: Sulu's Name Date & Time: 02/11/91 16:42:45 Message Number 12082 How about McCoy's daughter? Hmmm, I think you're using the Compendium on me. I don't own one. Where can I get one. Besides these questions are meant to wreck your mind trying to remember the answer. All my questions and answers come from my memory, not books. =========== From: SCOTT STEEL To: SAAVIK Subject: Wesley Date & Time: 02/11/91 16:45:13 Message Number 12083 Wesley is a dweeb. Besides, it seems that he is always coming up with the solutions. Not a very realistic concept. The young and most inexperienced knows the answer. =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: DRAGONFLY Subject: Give it a Rest Date & Time: 02/11/91 17:57:20 Message Number 12084 I would have to agree with you, that a person's sexual preference makes no difference as to how well they do at thier jobs (or whatever) in society. However, I would not hire one, and I would not work with one. As for skin color in the army, there were several of difference races and backgrounds that I liked and disliked. And of religious preferences too, but that makes no nevermind to me. However, being black is a genetic thing. Being homo is a matter of choice. I see no reason to prefer the same sex over the opposite sex. It is contra-survival. Anti-instinctual. Sick. Abnormal. Sick. I got news for you people, I am dropping this thread. =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: DRAGONFLY Subject: Give it a Break Date & Time: 02/11/91 18:14:47 Message Number 12085 DF>...whether the homos chose to have the sexual pref he has Yes. DF>If a homo never slept with someone of his/her gender, would you still DF>consider that person a homo? Yes. I will amend my definition of homoperversity: or wanting to. There is definitely something also strange about wanting to "sleep with" another of your own gender. =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: DRAGONFLY Subject: New lingo Date & Time: 02/11/91 18:18:21 Message Number 12086 DF>...thon... Yes, (applaud, applause) I like it. Is it possessive? =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: TURTLE Subject: Viet Nam histry Date & Time: 02/11/91 18:20:08 Message Number 12087 TS>Turtles rebuttal. T>You could have gone into more detail...China...Cambodia... Oh? Please fill me in. There are a lot of gaps on my knowledge of Viet Nam era, we never learned it in school. (I had to pick an awful lot of it up from documentarys on PBS). =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: TURTLE Subject: Women/Combat Date & Time: 02/11/91 18:23:18 Message Number 12088 TS>So with this in mind, can we say that you and I agree? T>Well, [hem, haw, hem, haw] yes. (God, that hurt!) (Malicious grin.) The first! Heheheh. =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: TURTLE Subject: Various Date & Time: 02/11/91 18:25:09 Message Number 12089 TS> [Billy Joel] ... standards! T>Prob not, but do wish the people who wrote ... would raise thiers... (Suprised double take) Eh? =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: KNIGHT OWL Subject: PB& ??? Date & Time: 02/11/91 18:26:55 Message Number 12090 KO>w/ peanut butter...honey or apple butter. Oh, man, apple butter. (SMACK!) :) KO>Smooth or crunchy? I like my peanut butter either way. KO>...fried bananas? No, never had 'em. Have you ever had Baked Cinnamin Apples? Oh, man, my mom used to make some killer BCA's. Melt in your mouth...hoo! I h haven't one of those in almost 20 years. (Whoa...that long? Time flies...) =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: BEATLE Subject: Give it a Rest Date & Time: 02/11/91 18:31:33 Message Number 12091 TS>Lot of hetros ... blah, blah B>You don't want to shoot them. They aren't mentally defective. =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: BEATLE Subject: Give it a Rest Date & Time: 02/11/91 18:33:32 Message Number 12092 B> I think that Tutle and Max might be suprised and happy to hear that Huh? Why? It is the same attitude I have displayed since I have known them. Sheesh, it's not like I would run up and attack one if I saw him. BRAAARRRRRRRGH! (Runs up waving weapon and shouting obscenities, firing wildly with the Uzi and growling like a maniac) Uh, no, I don't think so...not my style. =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: BEATLE Subject: Freakish fears Date & Time: 02/11/91 18:37:00 Message Number 12093 TS> I do not have fear, period. B>Come on, doesn't everyone fear SOMETHING Of course, I meant that I have no fear of homos. I'm arachnophobic. Freaky, eh? B>and whatever you'd call being afraid to ask girls out... We all have some of that, Beatle. Hell, I'm shy myself. I'd call it shy...I might also call it lack of self-confidence. You know the best way to get rid of that? Do something to improve yourself. Once you start to see results, others will too. And you will act accordingly. I lifted weights at one time to build self-confidence. And it worked, too. I put on 15 pounds and I felt and looked better. (The first I knew, the second I was told.) =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: Newbies Date & Time: 02/11/91 18:45:03 Message Number 12094 SS>TS>..Scot (sic arggh, that's Scott), sic should be used like : [sic] not (sic)... and I still think that it looks better as Scot Steele...but ok, Scott it is. SS>You know, sometimes, I think you too paranoid. Even for your own SS>good. Yep. =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: Women/Combat Date & Time: 02/11/91 18:47:41 Message Number 12095 SS>Turtle and The Specialist actually agreed on something! Hey, we've agreed on things before. It's just that we keep track on how many things we agree on...and the higher the number, the worse off we feel. We are diametrically opposed to each other. =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: RUFUS Subject: Newbies Date & Time: 02/11/91 18:51:00 Message Number 12096 R>I want to know what TS thinks of all the people away at college R>living in the same room! Hmmm. Depends, are they in the same bed? And, if so, are they engaged in homosexual activity? If not, then I probably think the same of them as I thought of they guys in my barracks, who often went three to a room. =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: TURTLE Subject: Full-fledged Date & Time: 02/11/91 18:53:48 Message Number 12097 Ah, lighten up. Just because Tiberius said that he's a hetro and made a joke about fags, doesn't mean that he is as bigoted as I am. Say, Tiberius, how do you fit four fags on a barstool? You turn it upside down! Hehehehe.' =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: Vulcan Death Gr Date & Time: 02/11/91 18:55:50 Message Number 12098 I think that was the one where Spock played like he defected to the Romulans so that he could steal the Cloaking device. =========== From: SCOTT STEEL To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Give it a Rest Date & Time: 02/11/91 23:10:22 Message Number 12099 TS> However, I wouldn't hire one, or work with one. Specialist, that would be discrimination, and that's illegal. Just food for thought, no reply is necessary. =========== From: SCOTT STEEL To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Vulcan Death Gr Date & Time: 02/11/91 23:22:27 Message Number 12100 TS> ...Spock defected to the Romulans so that he could steal the TS> Cloaking device. Please give more details on the show. I /still/ can't place the show. =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: KNIGHT OWL Subject: PB& ??? Date & Time: 02/11/91 23:59:49 Message Number 12101 Fried bananas? I've had fried platanos -- used to grow 'em. Never could find them in the stores. /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: KNIGHT OWL Subject: thon Date & Time: 02/12/91 00:00:58 Message Number 12102 Thanks, Knight. Pull out your old Funk & Wagnall's, around 1908, and you'll actually find the word. /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: RUFUS Subject: Model 100 Date & Time: 02/12/91 00:04:28 Message Number 12103 Of course that's what schools spend money on! Sheesh, you think schools are good for anything except sports? What do you think schools are for? /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: New Topic Date & Time: 02/12/91 00:08:17 Message Number 12104 My age has nothing to do with it. You claimed that there's no woman better than you in mathematics. I'm glad to hear you got accepted at one of the top-ten math departments in the country. I got accepted to another, and I'm currently studying there. Same with several women I've known, who are currently in graduate school. Stop by New College sometime, and I'll show you their theses. /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: KNIGHT OWL Subject: R.P.C. Date & Time: 02/12/91 00:16:39 Message Number 12105 I think M&M stands for "More & More" -- the original name of the product. /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Give it a Break Date & Time: 02/12/91 00:19:52 Message Number 12106 TS>I will amend my definition of homoperversity: or wanting to. TS>There is definitely something also strange about wanting to "sleep TS>with" another of your own gender. Do you really feel a person has the ability to control thon's own desires? How? When you have a craving for chocolate (or a good German beer, or whatever), you might ignore the craving, but I doubt you'd deny it exists. You might choose not to yield to the craving, or you might choose to only partially yield (carob instead of chocolate; Busch instead of Beck's), or you might decide to completely yield -- but you don't deny the craving. In the same way, a homosexual might agree thon's desires are wrong (and, yes, I've met at least two people who feel that way!) and decide never to succumb to them again. But thon still feels the desire! BTW, have you ever taken a course in psychology? You might find some of the concepts... interesting. (Including that everyone has 'homopervertual' desires.) /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: New lingo Date & Time: 02/12/91 00:34:57 Message Number 12107 Thanks for the applause! I've been using "thon's" for the possessive, because it sounds the best to me. It's a word English really needs. /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Newbies Date & Time: 02/12/91 00:39:34 Message Number 12108 You know, it would be interesting to have a dinner (or lunch) between you, Raven, and I. There will be an extremely discrete rush to the cornermost chair away from windows and facing as much of the restaurant as possible.... /Dragonfly =========== From: KNIGHT OWL To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: Date & Time: 02/12/91 02:22:43 Message Number 12109 >>T ...lungs removed with chainsaws.... SS> God that sounds painfully. Painfully breathtaking, that is. *]:@ =========== From: KNIGHT OWL To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: old food Date & Time: 02/12/91 02:30:15 Message Number 12110 I've never had a cinnamon-baked-apple before, it sounds good! My mom used to make some killer applesauce. It was of a red color from all the cinnamon she put into it. I used to live near an apple orchard that also had strawberrys in the summer. Ooooh, those were the good ole days. I haven't had apple cider or apple butter in a L-O-N-G time. (over 6 years). have you ever had apple cider donuts? Mmmmmmm.... SEE YA! Knight Owl =========== From: KNIGHT OWL To: DRAGONFLY Subject: thon Date & Time: 02/12/91 02:38:32 Message Number 12111 DF> ... Pull out you F & W, around 1908, and you'll actuallfind the word. I don't have a 1908 dictionary. How did you come across the word itself? The english language has some pretty strange words. =========== From: KNIGHT OWL To: DRAGONFLY Subject: M&M'S Date & Time: 02/12/91 02:44:14 Message Number 12112 To the best of my knowledge, the M's stood sor the first initials of 2 men who invented 'em. More & More? When was that name used? I'm curious. SEE YA! Knight Owl =========== From: TURTLE To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: Various Date & Time: 02/12/91 13:14:44 Message Number 12115 TS> Do you by any chance, mean "moshing". SS> Yes! A dangerous habit. I went to see Anthrax at the Rocket Club last weekend, and damn near got moshed to death by three attractive young ladies with certain rather aggressive traits. So much for the myth that men in general are aggressive and warlike and women in general are kind and nurturing... =========== From: TURTLE To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: New Topic Date & Time: 02/12/91 13:16:44 Message Number 12116 >Right now I'm studying to be an accountant. Really? Damn, I'm sorry. Anything I can do to help? =========== From: TURTLE To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: Women/Combat Date & Time: 02/12/91 13:17:40 Message Number 12117 >Turtle and The Specialist actually agreed on something! It happens, sometimes, but we both get kind of uneasy when it does... =========== From: TURTLE To: BEATLE Subject: Model 100 Date & Time: 02/12/91 13:19:10 Message Number 12118 >...what IS the state of that stuff? It looks thicker than a liquid, and >it can't be plasma, so is it a colloid? No. Actually, it's simply wax. The heat of the light bulb melts it, causing it to expand and become less dense than the liquid (a heavy oil, I think) that it's in, so it floats. When it cools, it contracts slightly and sinks. =========== From: TURTLE To: RUFUS Subject: Not Newbies Date & Time: 02/12/91 13:21:25 Message Number 12119 I dunno; I suppose it depends on whether or not they're Post-It (tm) students. "If you got a fish, and you got two Post-It fish, and you stick the Post-It fish on the fish, you got THREE fish! And they don't stick to the ground." =========== From: TURTLE To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Give it a Shoe Date & Time: 02/12/91 13:24:43 Message Number 12120 >However, being black is a genetic thing. Being homo is a matter >of choice. Nope, that's not true. There is a fair amount of evidence to suggest that sexual preference is NOT a matter of choice, and that it DOES have a genetic component. Think about it...do you /choose/ to be attracted to women? If (Heaven forbid) you actually wanted to, do you think you could /choose/ to get turned on by guys ? Choice has very little to do with it. You can CHOOSE to act on the attraction, but you can't choose who you're attracted to. =========== From: TURTLE To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Various Date & Time: 02/12/91 13:30:51 Message Number 12121 >(Surprised double take) Eh? Is very simple. The remake (and, for that matter, the original) of "Give Peace a Chance" shows all the quality craftsmanship and intricate construction of a Ford Pinto, but without the same musical quality. =========== From: TURTLE To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Freakish fears Date & Time: 02/12/91 13:33:53 Message Number 12122 B>...and whatever you'd call being afraid to ask girls out. TS> We all have some of that, Beatle. Speak for yourself. (Malicious grin) :> =========== From: TURTLE To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Dametric opposi Date & Time: 02/12/91 13:35:19 Message Number 12123 >We are diametrically opposed. I dunno...we both like fast cars and hate country music... =========== From: TURTLE$ To: SCOTT STEEL $ Subject: Vulcan Death Gr Date & Time: 02/12/91 13:36:31 Message Number 12124 >PLease give more details on the show. "The Enterprise Incident." The Enterprise deliberately violated the Neutral Zone and tangled with a Romulan heavy cruiser, pioleted by a female commander. The Enterprise surrendered to the Romulan ship, and Kirk, disguised as a Romulan, transported over to the ship to attempt to steal its cloaking device. He was caught; Spock (who the Romulan commander had a crush on) transported over to that ship and confronted Kirk, who attacked him and was "killed" by the "Vulcan death grip." Now, with Kirk safely "dead," he had an opportunity to steal the cloaking device and return to the Enterprise with it... at least that's pretty much how I think it went. It was sort of a cool episode. =========== From: TURTLE To: DRAGONFLY Subject: Give it a Break Date & Time: 42/12/91 13:41:11 Message Number 12125 >BTW, have you ever taken a course in psychology? You might find some >of the concepts...interesting. (Including that everyone has 'homo- >pevertual' desires.) Manifest Bullshit (tm). You might find that certain aspects of homosexuality are normal, but that doesn't mean EVERYONE has them, just that a LOT of people have them. You cannot truthfully say "Everyone has two legs," so how on Earth can you say "Everyone has this or that complex psycho-emotional motivation" or some such thing? In the relm of psychology, as soon as you say "Everyone has..." you have just erred. You can't even say everyone has two brain hemispheres, for God's sake! Absolute statements absolutely do not exist in psychology. =========== From: SAAVIK To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: McCoy's kid Date & Time: 02/12/91 18:02:28 Message Number 12126 Joanna. Not from the Compendium. Read it in the Crew book...., there's a handy little item. It gives all the crews history from childhood. If you are into it, it's good reading. On Sulu's name, I forgot to look it up to see if I spelled it right, did I? =========== From: SAAVIK To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: Wesley Date & Time: 02/12/91 18:04:39 Message Number 12127 It was in the script. Second Generation can get a little corney sometimes. Wasn't sure I liked Data's interpretation of relationships in the show about the marriage. Kind of weird. I like the shows that have more action in them. I'm not really as into the new ST as I am the old one. But it's a good show. Do you read any of the books? I mean the new ones. =========== From: RUFUS To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: Wesley Date & Time: 02/12/91 18:27:41 Message Number 12128 In the first season, Wesley did save the ship a few times too many, but they stopped doing that as the show progressed. I can actually tolerate him now, but he still seems a bit too bright for his own good. But at least the one female he falls in love for was a shape shifter. =========== From: RUFUS To: DRAGONFLY Subject: Model 100 Date & Time: 02/12/91 18:34:07 Message Number 12129 >What do you think schools are for? Education? I guess not. Not that I have any objections, but with the current budget cuts, I think the first thing that needs to go is the sports program (or at least reduce it to one or two basic p.e. classes). Call me silly, but I always thought school was for education. I've hear (d) that one local high school will have between 40-50 students in each class. I'm glad I'll be escaping the school system this year, but I really wonder what effect this will have for people who still have four or five years left. =========== From: RUFUS To: TURTLE Subject: Various Date & Time: 02/12/91 18:39:57 Message Number 12130 My friend went to see Anthrax. His watch got moshed on, and now the minute hand just swings around at random. So what were these "aggressive traits"? =========== From: RUFUS To: TURTLE Subject: Not Newbies Date & Time: 02/12/91 18:42:59 Message Number 12131 >"If you got a fish...they don't stick to the ground." Well, they won't stick to the ground, but that's only because they are busy sticking to the fish. A single Post-It fish will stick to the ground, but when you peel it up it leaves no sticky residue. Did you know Post-It fish were originally developed to be a bookmark that wouldn't slip out of your book or lift the printing off? They ditched the project cause the fish were too thick to close the book on. =========== From: RUFUS To: TURTLE Subject: Freakish fears Date & Time: 02/12/91 18:46:31 Message Number 12132 B>...and whatever you'd call being afraid to ask girls out. TS> We all have some of that, Beatle. T> Speak for yourself. (Malicious grin) :> That's because you're a babe magnet. [ducking VW carbs] =========== From: RUFUS To: RUFUS Subject: Model 100 Date & Time: 02/12/91 18:49:21 Message Number 12133 >Not that I have any objections Should have read "Not that I despise sports..." Wake up, smell the coffee, turn nose up in disgust, and grab a Dew. Has anyone seen my Post-It brain? It's missing! =========== From: SAAVIK To: ALL Subject: trivia Date & Time: 02/12/91 21:04:13 Message Number 12134 Star Trek Trivia. What was the first episode Spock used the mind meld and what were the circumstances? =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: KNIGHT OWL Subject: thon Date & Time: 02/12/91 21:25:09 Message Number 12135 >How did you come across the word itself? One of my strange books of trivia, which included other candidates for a genderless, singular pronoun. None were as successful as "thon." /Dragonfly/ Word trivia question: what common, nine-letter English word has only one vowel? =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: KNIGHT OWL Subject: M&M'S Date & Time: 02/12/91 21:27:32 Message Number 12136 More & More: I'm not sure when (or IF) that was used. It's been dragged out of this rusting memory of mine. /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: TURTLE Subject: Various Date & Time: 02/12/91 21:28:27 Message Number 12137 T> So much for the myth that men in general are agressive and warlike T> and women in general are kind and nurturing... Huh? I'd say it doesn't disprove the myth that men IN GENERAL are agressive, or that women IN GENERAL are nurturing. It just disproves any rumors that all women are kind and nurturing. Wolf? Kind and nurturing? Doubtful. Same with Nikki. But wonderful people, nonetheless. /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: TURTLE Subject: Give it a Shoe Date & Time: 02/12/91 21:31:44 Message Number 12138 Thank you, Turtle. I didn't realize there might be a genetic component. (I thought environment determined one's sexuality more than genetics.) Either way, it doesn't matter. Even if the homosexual agreed that to act on those desires, thon will have to face the fact that thon will have those desires. Whether they're genetic or environmental, it's probably too late to change thon's desires. /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: RUFUS Subject: Model 100 Date & Time: 02/12/91 21:41:15 Message Number 12139 Ha! If schools were really meant for education, do you think they'd pay the teachers something more than minimum-sustinence (sp?) wages? If schools were really for education, do you think they'd spend more money on say... computer equipment than athletic equipment? Really, now. Seriously, sports has a place in the school system, of course. But I notice that newspapers all over the state were reporting on the best high-school athlete -- and which college he was going to. I've never once seen a report about the best student in the state. Our society places sports on a pedestal: you can become a SOMEBODY if you're good at sports. What no one says: it's ten thousand times more difficult to become a somebody through sports than it is to become somebody through education. What effect will it have on future students? Learning will become harder, so many students won't put out the effort. The athletes will still be praised, the academics thrown in a corner. And the rift will widen. /Dragonfly/ =========== From: KNIGHT OWL To: RUFUS Subject: Post-its Date & Time: 02/13/91 00:03:54 Message Number 12141 Every now & then you see Post-it wildlife. Anything from racoons to armadillos can be found. Mind you, they don'tgo too well with paper...but they sure stick to the road. Available in all shapes & sizes, depending on availability. This message has been brought to you by 3M (Mercury, Maserati, and Mercedes). *]:) SEE YA! Knight Owl =========== From: KNIGHT OWL To: DRAGONFLY Subject: thon Date & Time: 02/13/91 00:11:14 Message Number 12142 D> What common 9-letter english word has only 1 vowel? Fright? (nope, 7 letters) Hmmmmmmm...... I dunno, you've got me stumped for now. Give me a clue (verb, noun, etc.) I don't give up that easily. SEE YA! Knight Owl =========== From: SCOTT STEEL To: DRAGONFLY Subject: New Topic Date & Time: 02/13/91 01:56:07 Message Number 12143 DF> Drop by New College sometime, and I'll show you their these. Yeah, right, go up to a total stranger and say, "Hey, do you know where I could find Dragonfly. =========== From: SCOTT STEEL To: TURTLE Subject: Various Date & Time: 02/13/91 01:59:54 Message Number 12144 Well, if I was being moshed to death by three attractive ladies, I think I wouldn't mind going that way. =========== From: SCOTT STEEL To: TURTLE Subject: New Topic Date & Time: 02/13/91 02:01:11 Message Number 12145 SS> Right now I'm studying to be an accountant. T> Really? Damn, I'm sorry. Anything I can do to help? Yeah, that would be good. Advice from a bruger-flipper on financial business and adminstration. For some reason I don't think that quite follows. =========== From: SCOTT STEEL To: SAAVIK Subject: McCoy's kid Date & Time: 02/13/91 02:07:05 Message Number 12146 SV> ...spelled it right, did I? I'm not sure. Sorry. I left you E-mail on Grimoire. =========== From: SCOTT STEEL To: SAAVIK Subject: Wesley Date & Time: 02/13/91 02:08:24 Message Number 12147 I agree. I like the old a lot more than the new. I'm sorry, but no one can match William Shatner's presence in the show. He just had that look of certainity and confinence aobut himself. I started to read on (one not on) but get bored with it. =========== From: SCOTT STEEL To: RUFUS Subject: Various Date & Time: 02/13/91 02:11:49 Message Number 12148 R> ... His watch got moshed on, and now the mintute hand just swings around at random. I guess, then, it wasn't a Timex? =========== From: TIBERIUS To: KNIGHT OWL Subject: PB&J Date & Time: 02/13/91 09:02:47 Message Number 12149 >toasted whole wheat. Or on Oatmeal bread just baked and still warm from the oven. =========== From: TIBERIUS To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: trivia Date & Time: 02/13/91 09:04:19 Message Number 12150 TI>> Does anybody like Wesley? >> >>NO!NO!NO!NO!NO! Okay, next question.... Does anybody like his mother? (Gates McFadden) YES!YES!YES!YES!YES! =========== From: TIBERIUS To: BEATLE Subject: trivia Date & Time: 02/13/91 09:06:48 Message Number 12151 You can't actualyy LIKE Wesley, can you? I mean, tolerate is one thing, but.... And you would have liked Gene Roddenberry as a teenager, too? =========== From: TIBERIUS To: BEATLE Subject: trivia Date & Time: 02/13/91 09:08:59 Message Number 12152 >No, but she WAS in hte Star Trek pilot. That's right! As Number One, right? =========== From: TIBERIUS To: TURTLE Subject: trivia$ Date & Time: 02/13/91 09:10:33 Message Number 12153 >Is that a trick question?? Depends. Is Wesley a trick character? To someday rip off the human facade and reveal an evil Romulan lurking there? =========== From: TIBERIUS To: TURTLE Subject: Full-Fledged Date & Time: 02/13/91 09:12:17 Message Number 12154 OK, so I'm a full fledged bigot in that area too. =========== From: SAAVIK $ $$$$$ To: DRAGONFLY Subject: ED VS SPORTS Date & Time: 02/13/91 12:52:27 Message Number 12156 You have a good point there, Dragonfly. I have rarely seen students with good grades praised over good athletes. And it's easier to get a scholarship in sports than in grades. And what happens to all the college educated athletes after the ball drops? A lot of them barely made acceptable grades, only a few come out ahead. =========== From: SAAVIK To: RUFUS $ Subject: Insanity $ Date & Time: 42/13/91 12:57:32 Message Number 12157 Are you talking to yourself now? Tsk Tsk, I think I saw your post it brain over in Chaos......., check it out. =========== From: SCOTT STEEL $ To: TIBERIUS Subject: trivia Date & Time: 02/13/91 15:26:03 Message Number 12158 TI> ...Does anybody like his mother? (Gates McFadden) Big YES! I'd like to enter her "gates" :) (perverted smile) =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: KNIGHT OWL Subject: thon Date & Time: 02/13/91 16:47:44 Message Number 12159 Clue number one: It's a noun, and it's plural. /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: New Topic Date & Time: 02/13/91 16:48:32 Message Number 12160 SS> Yeah, right, go up to a total stranger and say, "Hey, do you know SS> where I could find Dragonfly. So what's your problem? Stanger questions have been asked at New College... and that's not so strange. If you need find me, ask your way to the Viking dorms (what used to be the Viking motel) and knock on door #229. /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: SAAVIK $ Subject: ED VS SPORTS Date & Time: 02/13/91 16:52:31 Message Number 12161 > You have a good point there, Dragonfly. Thanks. But it's hardly original. > I have rarely seen students with good grades praised over good > athletes. How true. > ANd it is easier to get a scholarship in sports than in grades. Huh? That one I'm not so sure of. Yes -- there are BIGGER scholarships for sports than for academics (the average player can get his entire tuition payed for...), but I'm not sure it's easier. I was unusual: several Christian colleges were so desperate to get me, they told me to just show up on the first day of classes. My education was already payed for, and if I showed up, I'd be automat- ically enrolled. New College didn't quite go that far: I still had to register. But they payed for food and housing for my first three years (until I broke the terms of two of my scholarships.) > And what happens to all the college educated athletes after the ball > drops? I dunno. Coach Gym, perhaps? /Dragonfly/ =========== From: TURTLE To: RUFUS Subject: Wesley $$$ Date & Time: 02/13/91 17:25:52 Message Number 12162 >But at least the one female he falls in love for was a shape >shifter. Yeah, and he didn't handle it too well, either. Wesley as a narrow- minded, humanocentric twit...whod've thunk it? =========== From: TURTLE $ To: RUFUS $$ $$ $$ Subject: Various Date & Time: 02/13/91 17:30:20 Message Number 12163 >So what were these "aggressive traits"? Well, a marked tendency to scream loudly while slamming with great vigor into innocent bystanders, mostly myself, for one. While I can certainly appreciate a trio of scantily-clad and very attractive young ladies, when these young ladies are attempting to squash one into oblivion it becomes a somewhat different situation. Not that I can't appreciate /that/, mind you, but it does put things in a slightly different light... =========== From: TURTLE$ To: RUFUS Subject: Not Newbies $ Date & Time: 02/13/91 17:33:23 Message Number 12164 >Did you know Post-It fish were originally developed to be a bookmark >that wouldn't slip out of the book or lift the printing off? Nope, as a matter of fact, I didn't. I thought Post-It fish were developed to combat the problem of fish sticking to the ground; that's why they always come in packages of two, so if you get two Post-It fish and a fish the Post-It fish will stick to the fish and the fish won't stick to the ground. Of course, it's also a more humane way to fish, since you can tie the Post-It fish to the line and when the Post-It fish stick to the fish you got three fish that can be reeled in very tidily. =========== From: TURTLE To: RUFUS $ Subject: Freakish fears Date & Time: 02/13/91 17:36:11 Message Number 12165 >[ducking VW carbs] Parts of VW carbs, actually. I finished taking that carb apart, and it's pretty well messed up. I might be able to make it go again, but I won't be winning any races with it, know what I mean? Good thing I use Post-It carbs so they're easy to change. =========== From: TURTLE To: DRAGONFLY Subject: Various Date & Time: 02/13/91 17:38:29 Message Number 12166 >Wolf? Kind and nurturing? Doubtful. Same with Nikki. But wonderful >people, nonetheless. I'm sure the nice young ladies who tried to mosh me to death were wonderful people, too, when they aren't assaulting total strangers. Funny you should mention Nikki; last time I saw her she was leading some guy around on a leash. While I won't venture any comments about her kindness or nurtureness, I will say she's kind of odd... =========== From: TURTLE$ To: DRAGONFLY $ Subject: Sport 100 Date & Time: 02/13/91 17:41:23 Message Number 12167 >And the rift will widen. And the rivers will run with blood, and toads shall rain from the heavens, and the mountains shall spit fire, and Commodore shall get an advertising department that knows its ass from a hole in the ground... =========== From: TURTLE $ To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: Various Date & Time: 02/13/91 17:43:06 Message Number 12168 >Well, if I was being moshed to death by three attractive ladies, I >think I wouldn't mind going that way. There are worse ways to go, sure, but I'd rather not go at all... =========== From: TURTLE To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: New Topic Date & Time: 02/13/91 17:44:00 Message Number 12169 >Advice from a bruger-flipper on financial business and administration. That's MR. Bruger-Flipper to you. And why not? This bruger-flipper is pretty good at dispensing advice on everything from calculus to electronics... :P =========== From: TURTLE $ To: SCOTT STEEL $ Subject: Wesley$$$$ $ Date & Time: 42/13/91 17:45:23 Message Number 12170 >I'm sorry, but no one can match William Shatner's presence in the show. Thank God. >He just had that look of certainty and confidence aobut himself. Or, as writer Harlan Ellison referred to it, "the hideous thumbprint of Bill's demand for total control over every scene." William Shatner is a ham. =========== From: RUFUS$ To: DRAGONFLY $ Subject: ED VS SPORTS$$ Date & Time: 02/13/91 18:14:42 Message Number 12173 About the best educational scholarship I've seen was offered by the University of New Orleans. Any National Merit Finalist would get 1) Room, board, books, tuition for four years. 2) $2000 a year bribe, err I mean spending money 3) A computer and printer in the dorm room. 4) A Summer in Europe to 'study.' We checked out the school. With a 98% acceptance rate, and something like 52% leaving after the first year, we figured it safe to say the school wasn't very good. ...now if they had thrown in a sports car and some cheerleaders! :) =========== From: RUFUS To: TURTLE $ Subject: Freakish$fears Date & Time: 02/13/91 18:13:24 Message Number 12174 You really shouldn't ask "So when are you getting a VW?". I've been looking around and am seriously thinking of getting one. How comfy are they, say, if I drove to Atlanta? Would my spine be in 13 parts on the back floor, or is it only your VW that acts like a jumping bean on steroids? And can you install cruise control? =========== From: RUFUS$ $ To: TURTLE $ Subject: New Topic $ Date & Time: 02/13/91 18:18:32 Message Number 12176 Yes, but do you know electron spin? And did you know that scientists can now determine the direction and speed (or whatever the hell the "you can't know one without affecting the other is) of an electron. They simply slap a Post-It fish on an electron. Sure it's hard, but you just watch the moving fish. Have you seen the new Nike commercial fro staying in school? Really good. "Mr. Robinson don't like trash in his shoes." ..."Help, I've forgotten Chemistry and I can't get up." =========== From: SAAVIK To: RUFUS Subject: Depression sink Date & Time: 02/13/91 20:43:44 Message Number 12177 Brainless......, oh, cheer up. It won't be all that bad. Half the people I know manage that way. Maybe you can post a missing brain report. What did it look like? I might have a spare lying around here somewhere. =========== From: SAAVIK $$ $ To: DRAGONFLY Subject: Gym Coach$ Date & Time: 02/13/91 20:47:32 Message Number 12178 All the gym teachers I've ever known were frustrated and nasty. Maybe that's why, eh? You must be incredibly intelligent to have the colleges fawning over you......, I don't mean that in a sarcastic way. I wasn't that lucky. No money, no college. If I knew then what I knew now, I would have spent more time in the library and less time in detention. I was a rebel, and now I'm paying for it. =========== From: SAAVIK To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: E-Mail Date & Time: 02/13/91 20:53:33 Message Number 12179 I got yours, did you get mine? I agree with you about Shatner. And there is no way Generation can come up with a character as unique as Spock was in that era. All the characters on ST fit together, a Sci Fi harmony. Each personality was an original. You really should read the books. If one bores you, try another....., some of them are really good. And I admit, some of them are really lame! Sigh, such is life. =========== From: SAAVIK To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: Gender $$$ Date & Time: 02/13/91 21:01:26 Message Number 12180 I am woman, hear me roar!!!!!!! meow! =========== From: SCOTT STEEL $ To: RUFUS$$$ $ Subject: Univ of New Orl Date & Time: 02/13/91 22:00:45 Message Number 12181 Why in the world did that University offer some much? Did you ever find out why they were so bad? If they did all that, I'd go. You would just have to discipline yourself to learn. =========== From: SCOTT STEEL To: SAAVIK $ Subject: E-mail Date & Time: 02/13/91 22:10:00 Message Number 12183 Yes, I got your reply. You can call me anytime. I'm up by 8:00am, home from school by 3:30, and can usually be reached between 5 and 6, and after 11:00 p.m. Call soon. =========== From: SCOTT$STEEL $ To: SAAVIK $ $ Subject: Gender Date & Time: 02/13/91 22:11:43 Message Number 12184 SA> I am woman, hear me roar!!!!!!! meow! Whoa, a woman who likes Star Trek. I like it. I like it. I've never (maybe I shouldn't say, never) met a woman who loved Star Trek. Most women I've talked to think Star Trek is too macho, and not worth watching. =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: SCOTT STEEL Subject: Give it a Rest Date & Time: 02/13/91 23:16:03 Message Number 12185 TS>However, I wouldn't hire one, or work with one. SS>Specialist, that would be discrimination, and that's illegal. No shit, Sherlock. SS>Just food for thought, no reply is necessary. Oh, you'd like that, wouldn't you? Get the last word in. =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: DRAGONFLY Subject: Give it a Break Date & Time: 02/13/91 23:18:45 Message Number 12186 Yes, that's my point exactly. A person who has homosexual desires is wierd...and not everyone has homopervertual desires. I don't. And just because a text book tells you that is true is not any reason to believe it, just the same as the bible tell you about god and other Christian things is no reason to believe it. You proved my point nicely...a person who has desires and can control them is the same as a person who has desires and can't control them, for my purposes of sickness. A person who molests children is sick, a person who desires it is just as sick. =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: DRAGONFLY Subject: Newbies Date & Time: 02/13/91 23:22:30 Message Number 12187 DF>...dinner (or lunch) between you, Raven, and I. I have met Raven, he seems the intelligent type. Actually, he really seems to know what he's talking about when it comes to computers. Why do you believe that there would be no one sitting around us? =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: TURTLE $ $ Subject: Various $ Date & Time: 02/13/91 23:30:34 Message Number 12188 TS>(Suprised double take) Eh? T>The remake ... shows all the quality craftmanship...of a Ford Pinto.. T>but without the same musical quality. Ahgh! We are agreeing again! STOP THAT! =========== From: THE$SPECIELIST To: TURTLE $ $$ Subject: Freakish fears Date & Time: 02/13/91 23:32:38 Message Number 12189 B> whatever... TS> We all ... T>Speak for yourself. (Malicious grin) :> Oh, yeah, I forgot...except Turtle, the stud womanizer of our little BBS community. Yeah, Turtle. You studmuffin you. *yawn* =========== From: THE$SPECIALIST To: TURTLE $ Subject: Give it a Break Date & Time: 02/13/91 23:35:13 Message Number 12190 DF> [bullshit about how everyone has homo tendencies] T>Manifest Bullshit (tm). Ah, well spoken. =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: SAAVIK Subject: Gym Coach Date & Time: 02/14/91 00:12:50 Message Number 12195 >The average 'Stang has a 5.0 liter engine... The average 'Stang has a 2.4 liter four-banger. It's the Mustang GT's you wanna go after. (Yes! Got him on a technicality! Yes! *smirk*) =========== From: SCOTT STEEL To: SAAVIK Subject: ST Marathon Date & Time: 42/14/91 47:48:52 Message Number 12196 Saavik, I would like to personally invite you to join me to watch the Star Trek marathon, Friday night. I asked my roommate and he doesn't have a problem with it either. Look, I know you don't know me but I would really like to meet you. Shit, I like to meet anyone who is as engrossed by Star Trek as I am. The reason for the caution in this letter is because now I know you are female. Few females last on this BBS. Also, with the stigma of today's society, if you decide to come over, I would want you to feel comfortable, not uneasy. So I propose a plan. Write to the boards or call me today, Thursday. If you feel it's necessary, we can meet someplace neutral. Be fore the marathon, or tonight or today between 3:30p.m. and 6:00p.m. (^that's before not be fore) I hate typos. So, what do you say? Have a day. Scott Steel =========== From: TURTLE To: RUFUS Subject: Freakish$fears Date & Time: 02/14/91 16:20:21 Message Number 12197 It is, I fear, a peculiar quirk of my bug that makes it act like an overmuscled jumping bean on the road. Suspension, doncha know. Plus the fact that the stuffing is missing from the seats doesn't help. Ordinarily, I'd have no problem driving a Bug to Atlanta... =========== From: SAAVIK To: SCOTT$STEEL $ Subject: Macho Date & Time: 02/15/91 00:05:47 Message Number 12198 Macho? Star Trek. Naw! It's sensitive! The characters all were very ope open minded. There was (I admit) a definate male "saves the day" attitude but they wrote women in as ambassadors and scientists, not just Yeoman, secretarys and (poor Uhera) communication operators. "Hailing frequencies open, Captain.....darlin." =========== From: TURTLE To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Give it a Boat Date & Time: 02/15/91 00:22:10 Message Number 12200 >Just because a text book says it is no reason to believe it, ... Agreed, although I don't think you'll find a textbook anywhere what says "everyone has homosexual (homopervertual, whatever) tendencies." It can be argued that homosexual tendencies can b considered "normal" in most people, but I'm not even sure I'd go that far. I will venture, though, that they're more common than most people imagine. ===========