read new nonstop follow 89571 27-AUG 13:08 General Information RE: chestnut access (Re: Msg 89570) From: MITHELEN To: TEDJAEGER I just thried itr, and it worked fine for me. Did you use Delphis FTP or FTP from somewhere else? Did you supply "anonymous" as the username. The password really won't matter after that, but convention has it that you should enter your Username@Site.Domain for the password. -*- 89572 27-AUG 13:12 General Information RE: File xfer (Re: Msg 89203) From: TIMKIENTZLE To: SAUSAGESAM First, practical matters: A friend of mine who's considerably more knowledgable about telnet than I am suggested that ZModem might actually work over telnet. If you're logging into a Unix host through modem, then you may need to make sure you have an 8-bit connection (not 7even as is common for Unix dial-ins). You may also need to enable ZModem control escaping. Worth a try, certainly. Second, other issues: One of Kermit's strengths compared to, say, ZModem, is that it's possible to implement very simple Kermit programs that will work quite well with any other Kermit implementation. On the other hand, modern versions of Kermit are both very fast (only slightly slower than ZModem) and extremely flexible. In fact, over connections that aren't noiseless, windowing Kermit has the potential to be significantly faster than ZModem. Unfortunately, Delphi is not alone in only supporting very basic Kermit. It's kind of odd, really, since windowing Kermit is doubtless more widely used than WXModem, which Delphi does support. With Delphi's push for Internet connectivity, perhaps it's time they re-evaluated their decision not to support windowing Kermit, which is one of the few protocols that consistently works over Internet connections. - Tim -*- 89573 27-AUG 13:21 Programmers Den RE: Make command (Re: Msg 89436) From: TIMKIENTZLE To: ALWAGNER To reiterate something James Jones said, and which bears repeating: `make' knows NOTHING about C, or the C compiler, or the C linker. It doesn't know what `main' is, or how files get included. In fact, `make' is used to compile assembly language, fortran, perform backups, etc. I'm working on a large project right know which includes three moderately-sized programs and a 300-page book. I have a makefile set up which enables to to type `make book' to run all the source code through a formatter program, and collect that together with the text of the book and run the whole thing through a typesetting program. Alternatively, if I type `make programs,' it compiles the programs. The reason this works is that `make' is in fact a general tool that can be used with any project that works from building new files from old files. (I can also type `make backup' to automatically build an archive of the 50 or so files in the project that I can copy to a floppy disk for safekeeping.) - Tim -*- 89575 27-AUG 13:45 Programmers Den RE: Make command (Re: Msg 89537) From: TIMKIENTZLE To: DBREEDING `Standard' make behavior is that if no target is given on the command line, then the FIRST target in the makefile is built. This is why `all' is typically the first target in the makefile. Often, `all' is the second target in the makefile if the makefile builds a lot of programs. The first target would then be something like `default' that compiled only a basic collection of the programs. That way, `make' with no arguments would build the basic collection, and `make all' would build everything. - Tim (who's spent a lot of time and energy getting really hairy Unix makefiles to work on OS9) -*- 89580 27-AUG 17:56 Programmers Den RE: Make command (Re: Msg 89575) From: ALWAGNER To: TIMKIENTZLE (NR) Even though you have received a private thanks in E-mail, I want to say it again in this public forum. Thanks for the help and clear explanations. -*- End of Thread. -*- 89574 27-AUG 13:32 General Information RE: ZModem Info Needed (Re: Msg 89287) From: TIMKIENTZLE To: BOISY When a ZModem sender starts up, it goes through the following steps: 1) Sends `rz' to attempt to start a ZModem receive program on the host. This allows you to upload to Unix, for instance, without having to give a command at both ends. 2) Sends a `ZRQINIT' packet, whose first five bytes are ALWAYS **B00 The `**' is padding, the B identifies a hexadecimal-encoded packet header, and the 00 identifies this as a `ZRQINIT' packet. The next 8 bytes are the argument to ZRQINIT, which is normally zero, and the last four bytes are the CRC, which is again, normally zero. By convention, CR LF XON are included after any ZModem hexadecimal packet (Well, almost any.). Sometimes ZRQINIT has a non-zero argument, which is probably what's confusing you. In practice, the four bytes B 0 0 are typically used as an auto-detect string. The rarely appears in terminal emulations (pretty much never in ANSI X3.64-derived emulations such as VT100), so you can often get by with searching for a and then just checking the next three bytes. Automatically detecting a ZModem receiver is similar, except that the ZModem receiver starts with a `ZRINIT' packet (packet type 01). Don't watch for the argument or CRC unless you're mildly masochistic, since the ZRINIT argument varies considerably. The catch is that you should only do this if your terminal program allows you to set up which files to transfer well in advance, since once you see the ZRINIT packet, you typically only have 30-60 seconds in which to start the transfer. Prompting the user for a file to send after you see ZRINIT is not recommended. Conveniently, I've been researching ZModem lately. Feel free to ask if you have any more questions. I get on Delphi about every two weeks lately, but you can also reach me at: kientzle@netcom.com. - Tim -*- 89576 27-AUG 14:32 General Information RE: (Re: Msg 89568) From: JRUPPEL To: ALAIN1155 (NR) Yckthe sync timing and whether the sync trigger is normally high or normally low and xmode your /p to match. I had a problem getting my printer to understand my interface, too, and now thart I think of it, I think I changed or jumpered a couple of pins.... -*- 89577 27-AUG 14:35 General Information RE: Info Xpress (Re: Msg 89216) From: BILLDICKHAUS To: DSRTFOX Frank, Mark is no longer selling InfoXpress. I am in the process of deciding on a distributor (the list of possibilities includes myself). Meanwhile I will be collecting orders and will pass these on when everything is finalized. -Bill- -*- 89586 27-AUG 22:40 General Information RE: Info Xpress (Re: Msg 89577) From: DSRTFOX To: BILLDICKHAUS Well Bill, ad me to your list of possible vendors (FARNA Systems) and send me e-mail if you want to consider me anyway. Most of my stuff is DECB and OS-9, only one specific OSK item (a Quick Reference Guide) now. If you want/need to split off the OSK and O S-9 versions, that's okay by me also. -*- End of Thread. -*- 89578 27-AUG 14:35 OSK Applications RE: Xlate.lzh (Re: Msg 89529) From: BILLDICKHAUS To: VAXELF I just grabbed it and will post it on CompuServe. I probably won't have time to try it out, have you? I don't want to post something that doesn't work.... -Bill- -*- 89582 27-AUG 21:39 OSK Applications RE: Xlate.lzh (Re: Msg 89578) From: VAXELF To: BILLDICKHAUS Bill, I have been using it to translate the 6809 code that the RIBBS BBS uses into 68000 code. You still have to make some fixes, but at least it does the hard work for you. it will not translate the header part. That is the beginning psect part. If you know a little bit about 68K assemble, you should not have any problem finishing the conversion. once I did that it was a snap to compile. The only other problem I ran into was, the compiler barfed on things such as "bne.s, bra.s, & ect." All I had to do was change them to "bne.w, bra.w & ect". Thanks for putting "xlate.lzh" on Compuserve. The aurther has some more programs that he may put int PD. When he does, I'll be putting a copy of them here on Delphi. John D. -*- End of Thread. -*- 89579 27-AUG 17:51 General Information RE: Why CoCos? (Re: Msg 89472) From: JHICKLE To: DAMNGOOD (NR) Actually, you can learn a lot on a level I system, but you can't have nice pictures and readable 80 character screens. You can learn plenty about programming, which for some of us is the only reason for owning Thinker Toys - whether a COCO-2 or a Cray Y-MP. -*- 89581 27-AUG 18:40 General Information RE: OS-9 Live (Re: Msg 89553) From: DBREEDING To: DSRTFOX > The curent issue of 68'micros is the August issue, and is avialable as a > back issue for $4. Let me know if you need one! *I* don't need one... I subscribe ... -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 *** ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ -*- 89587 27-AUG 22:42 General Information RE: OS-9 Live (Re: Msg 89581) From: DSRTFOX To: DBREEDING Ever notice how easy it is to reply to the wrong person? ;> -*- End of Thread. -*- 89583 27-AUG 21:53 Telecom (6809) info express From: SMITHBA To: ALL what is info express. and where can i get it. also how can i zmodem at 9600. will nitus09 help. i am running a 6309 with the very first version of powerboost. not in native mode. thanks Brian Smith -*- 89607 28-AUG 16:27 Telecom (6809) RE: info express (Re: Msg 89583) From: JEJONES To: SMITHBA > what is info express. and where can i get it. InfoXpress is a program that can dial up CIS and/or Delphi and grab your messages and email as fast as possible so that you can read them offline at your leisure and reply offline at your leisure without incurring lots of connect time charges. (InfoXpress is actually a pretty general program, script-driven, but as far as I know, the only scripts written so far are for CIS and Delphi.) Where can you get it? That's currently under discussion/in flux. See recent messages from/to BILLDICKHAUS. If you're interested, send him email (he wrote the program, and IMHO it's a nice piece of work--I hasten to add that I'm not associated with him save that I bought a copy of InfoXpress). > also how can i zmodem at 9600. will nitros9 help. Judging by recent messages to the BITNET CoCo mailing list, yes it will. "Sliding window" protocols, of which zmodem is one, put a pretty heavy load on the machine because they're designed so that the sender does *not* wait for acknowledgement before sending the next packet (most of the time), which means that the receiver has to be able to keep reading incoming data even while it's writing to disk what it just read. If you have a sufficiently large RAM disk, try downloading to it and then copying to more permanent storage afterwards. Opinions herein are solely those of their respective authors. Clipper Chip: Big Brother Inside -*- End of Thread. -*- 89584 27-AUG 22:02 General Information user names From: SMITHBA To: ALL Hey you guys. would you take just a moment to do a short profile. when I type and get a list uf usernames, then i type . a lot of times i get . How is anybody supposed to know who to ask for help, if they don't know who you are or what kind of equipment you have. for example, I wouldn't ask someone who has a 512k coco using rsdos term program about my 2 meg coco. thenks Brian Smith -*- 89585 27-AUG 22:18 General Information RE: NitrOS9 data (Re: Msg 89562) From: DSRTFOX To: MROWEN01 Thanks Mike!~ -*- 89588 28-AUG 02:05 Telecom (6809) File transfer From: MMCCLELLAND To: ALL Can somebody explain to me the procedure for sending a binary file from my workspace to another user's workspace? Thanks, -=Mark=- -*- 89603 28-AUG 14:10 Telecom (6809) RE: File transfer (Re: Msg 89588) From: MITHELEN To: MMCCLELLAND You do it through MAIL, by typeing: SEND/FOR Filename.Ext at that mail prompt... (the "/FOR" tells Delphis mail util that it is a "Forgien" format message, and won't display all kinds of junk when the user tries to read it) -- Paul Jerkatis -*- 89608 28-AUG 16:27 Telecom (6809) RE: File transfer (Re: Msg 89588) From: JEJONES To: MMCCLELLAND > Can somebody explain to me the procedure for sending a binary file from > my workspace to another user's workspace? Thanks, I don't think you can do that directly; you'll probably have to mail it to the other user. Opinions herein are solely those of their respective authors. Clipper Chip: Big Brother Inside -*- End of Thread. -*- 89589 28-AUG 04:25 General Information Funny Coincidence From: MREGC To: ALL I think it would probably be a good idea for me to clear up some possible confusion here before it has a chance to get started. A number of you have downloaded the Gold Runner 2000 announcement file that I uploaded several days ago. I happened to be looking through a compuetr gaming magazine of some sort yesterday and happened to see an ad for a new version of the old game Lode Runner, something like Lode Runner: The Adventure Returns. Lode Runner also happens to be the game I redesigned with Gold Runner 2000. I jsut want everyone to know that my game and the new Lode Runner bear no resemblance to each other whatsoever. I wasn't even aware that someone else was re-doing that 10 year old game until yesterday. In my own, obviously terribly biased opinion, the screen shots the ad had for the new Lode Runner didn't resemble or give any idea of the old game at all, whereas I stayed true to the idea of the old game, though improving it greatly by expanding and detailing the graphics characters and background. How dare some other mainstream programmer take my idea and turn it into a probable huge success on the IBM! :) ..Eric... ..Digital Frontier Productions... -*- 89590 28-AUG 04:44 Applications (6809) UUD From: MMCCLELLAND To: BOISY I have been experiencing some trouble with your UUD utility. I have successfully used UUE to encode a 65k file into a single 94k .uue file, but when I try to use UUD on it, I get the following: ****STACK OVERFLOW**** ERROR #207 At first I thought that I simply didn't have enough memory, so I unlinked all unnecessary modules, but I received the same error. I tried making eight 200 line files out of the 65k file, but this didn't help the problem. I am using a 512k CoCo without Shell+. -=Mark=- -*- 89591 28-AUG 10:38 Applications (6809) RE: UUD (Re: Msg 89590) From: BOISY To: MMCCLELLAND It sounds like UUD needs more stack space. Try tacking on a #16k or #32k on the end of the command line when you run it. If you have source, you can add -M=16k to the link line in the makefile, or alternatively, use DEd on the UUD executable, and change the two bytes at hex $0b/$0c to $4000. Let me know what happens. -*- 89613 28-AUG 18:21 Applications (6809) RE: UUD (Re: Msg 89591) From: MMCCLELLAND To: BOISY You were right. Using a memory modifier fixed the problem completely! I'm surprised I didn't think of that last night (maybe because I was trying it at 4:00 AM!) Thanks, -=Mark=- -*- End of Thread. -*- 89592 28-AUG 10:59 General Information RE: Atlanta Fest (Re: Msg 89441) From: DISTO To: TEDJAEGER Like I said before, I do not have the time or insperation to finish it. It has a lot of work (mostly software) left. I have 3 left that work with a MS DOS adapter card (included). They cost me $300 dollars to build each. (Proto-type costs are high when you only make a few boards, 4 layer boards at that). I am willing to sell them at $100 each (shipping included) with all the docs, files, diagrams and sourse listings. But!!!!! And its a big but. I make to garranties what so ever and no money back. At best, I can give you a little on-line support. -Tony. -*- 89593 28-AUG 11:00 General Information RE: Atlanta Fest (Re: Msg 89443) From: DISTO To: MITHELEN Please read #89592. -Tony. -*- 89594 28-AUG 11:00 General Information RE: Atlanta Fest (Re: Msg 89500) From: DISTO To: MREGC (NR) Please read #89592. -Tony. -*- End of Thread. -*- 89595 28-AUG 11:04 OSK Applications RE: Digitizer for MM/1 (Re: Msg 89458) From: DISTO To: NIMITZ Please read #89592. -Tony. -*- 89596 28-AUG 11:47 OSK Applications Xlate.lzh From: BILLDICKHAUS To: BILLDICKHAUS John, I uploaded it yesterday, I'll go check on it now and make sure its enabled. -Bill- -*- 89597 28-AUG 11:47 Telecom (6809) InfoXpress Status From: BILLDICKHAUS To: ALL InfoXpress Status The original distributor of InfoXpress, DCCS (Dirt Cheap Computer Stuff) has closed up shop, is no longer accepting orders, and is no longer shipping InfoXpress. Please contact me in Mail if you have placed an order for InfoXpress and have not received it. Distribution will be passed on to another vendor in the near future. Until that time I am collecting orders (please use Mail) to be passed on to the new distributor. Please do not send me money, and do not expect me to ship you a copy of InfoXpress. I apologize for the inconvenience, and will try to resolve this as soon as possible. Bill Dickhaus, author of InfoXpress ------------------------------------------------------------------------ What is InfoXpress? InfoXpress is a software package designed to automate the process of connecting to communications services, then downloading, viewing and replying to the message base. InfoXpress will automatically log onto a service, check for any waiting electronic mail, enter one or more user forums and download all messages not previously read - and do this for more than one service in a single session. Once all the messages have been collected, InfoXpress allows the user to interactively read and reply to the messages while offline. Replies and messages are stored and then uploaded th next time InfoXpress connects to that service. The purpose of InfoXpress is to not only automate the message gathering process, but also to save you time and and reduce online connection time. InfoXpress is available for OS9 LII and OSK (OS9/68000). For the OS9 LII version, minimum hardware requirements are: a CoCo3 with 512K, a hardware serial port and a modem that will reset itself when DTR is toggled. At least 160K free memory must be available, as well as 4-6K of system memory. A hard drive is recommended, as the programs and supporting files take up about 550K of disk space, and this does not include message file space requirements. If a floppy system is used, a no-halt type is recommended. SACIA, or a similar serial driver (not the stock ACIAPAK) is recommended, with the input buffer set to at least 1K, as well as any other patches or modifications that improve serial port performance. The OSK version requirements: a minimum of 256K of memory, a hardware serial port, a modem that will reset itself when DTR is toggled and approximately 300K of disk space for programs and supporting files. Disk space requirements do not include message files, which can become quite large. Although InfoXpress was developed on an MM/1, K-Windows calls are not used, so InfoXpress should run on any standard OSK 2.4 system, and might also work on other versions of OSK. The current release of InfoXpress is 1.2.0, which supports forums and Mail on Delphi and CompuServe. Additional scripts are provided for capturing weather and stock quote information on CompuServe. -*- 89599 28-AUG 13:20 General Information RE: Crashed Coco3 (Re: Msg 89177) From: NEALSTEWARD To: DSRTFOX (NR) I bought a new (used) 512k coco 3 and and old style MPI, strapped the *CART Interupt lines of the MPI and I am back in business. Now I will upgrade the new coco3 one step at a time. First the 6309 socket and then the 2 meg upgrade. The "startup crash" that intermittantly occured on my old coco3 does not occur on this one. I doubt very much that the upgrades will cause ony problems either. Thanks for all your help on the problems.... -*- 89600 28-AUG 13:28 General Information RE: sidewise and business software. (Re: Msg 89178) From: NEALSTEWARD To: DSRTFOX (NR) I am a fairly proficient OS9 user, but still haven't been able to install Accounting Level II on my system. I have to cantact Chris Dekker for help. Now that I have a working Coco 3 again, it will be high on my list of priorities. After I get it up and working for my business, I would be happy to write a review. I'll let you know. -*- 89601 28-AUG 13:31 General Information RE: sidewise and business software. (Re: Msg 89145) From: NEALSTEWARD To: ALAIN1155 (NR) I can't tell you much about what Accounting Level 2 does because I haven't installed it yet, but you can order it from C. Dekker/RR #4 Centerville, NB/ E0J 1H0 CANADA. -*- End of Thread. -*- 89602 28-AUG 14:05 General Information RE: Roger Krupski's CC3Go modules (Re: Msg 89360) From: NEALSTEWARD To: ALAIN1155 (NR) I downloaded it from here, the filename is cc3go.ar under system modules. -*- 89604 28-AUG 14:20 General Information RE: Sculptor (Re: Msg 89374) From: NEALSTEWARD To: FHOGG (NR) I have Sculptor OS9/6809 v1.14:6. Is this version source code compatible with the OSK and MSDOS versions? With the runtime package, I could actually sell a sculptor application to another coco user? (Could I) -*- 89605 28-AUG 14:26 Programmers Den RE: Pprogrammers (Re: Msg 89415) From: NEALSTEWARD To: DENNYWRIGHT (NR) I have seen such a program, unfortunately it was on an MSDOS machine. I can check with my boss (who has it) to see if by chance it was written under Qbasic or something where the source code would be available. -*- 89606 28-AUG 15:35 Applications (6809) RE: Database Deletion of DScan V4.0!! (Re: Msg 89485) From: 01GEN40 To: MITHELEN (NR) Hi Paul, KBcom? Is that not for OS9/68K? Or am I thinking of another program? What is the name of the program which was OSTerm ported to OS9/68K? I forget off hand. Oh well! If it is for the CoCo I may try it out, but I have tried other communication programs such as Telstar, Supercomm (I think is the name)... I have always returned to OSTerm. I do like it! I have never used any non-OS9 program for communicating. I do not use non-OS9 programs for much of anything! I have re-submitted DScan V4.0 and had much better success this time. THIS LAST STATEMENT IS FOR ALL WHO USE DScan! Well, gotta go. See ya. LONG LIVE OS-9! ** In whatever form it is in! -= 01GEN40 =- -*- 89612 28-AUG 18:12 Applications (6809) RE: Database Deletion of DScan V4.0!! (Re: Msg 89606) From: KSCALES To: 01GEN40 (NR) > KBcom? Is that not for OS9/68K? Or am I thinking of another program? KBcom has been released (both a shareware and an enhanced commercial version) for CC3 Level 2. Eddie has also created a version for the MM/1, but has not yet released it. > What is the name of the program which was OSTerm ported to OS9/68K? Originally, Vaughn Cato did a quick port of OSTerm for the MM/1, which was marketed as TasCOM by CoCoPro! After CoCoPro! left the market, Northern Xposure arranged to upgrade the program and distribute it as OSTerm/68K. The MM/1 version now contains significant enhancements compared with the earlier versions: optional GUI frontend, external (user-definable) protocols, significantly enhanced VT100 and ANSI emulation, and many other enhancements. Since I have been involved in this project, I will stop there... Regards... / Ken -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ken Scales Delphi:KSCALES Internet:kscales@delphi.com CIS:74646,2237 -*- 89623 28-AUG 18:58 Applications (6809) RE: Database Deletion of DScan V4.0!! (Re: Msg 89612) From: NIMITZ To: KSCALES By all means, Ken - blow your horn! -*- 89624 28-AUG 19:00 Applications (6809) RE: Database Deletion of DScan V4.0!! (Re: Msg 89612) From: NIMITZ To: KSCALES By all means Ken - blow your horn! The loyal competetion! -*- End of Thread. -*- 89609 28-AUG 16:40 General Information RE: OS9UG (Re: Msg 89539) From: 01GEN40 To: MRUPGRADE (NR) Hi Terry, I AM sorry, Terry, but I feel the need to aid the defense of all the OS-9/68,6309 users out here. From what I have read, you are a user of RSdos (which in reality, there is no such thing). My question then, is this: If you do not use or use OS-9 Level 2 on a limited basis, why be so concerned about the OS-9 Level 2 users getting support through the OS-9 Users Group? I, myself, am not a current member of any User Group and still I receive plenty of support for OS-9 Level 2. By reading the messages in this forum, I have gotten as much or more support then I might have if I were a member of a Users Group. Please correct me if I am wrong about your "RSdos" usage. See ya. LONG LIVE OS-9! ** In whatever form it is in! -= 01GEN40 =- -*- 89610 28-AUG 16:44 General Information RE: OS9UG (Re: Msg 89540) From: 01GEN40 To: NIMITZ Who do I see (communicate with) in order to become a member of this OS-9 Users Group? See ya. LONG LIVE OS-9! ** In whatever form it is in! -= 01GEN40 =- -*- 89611 28-AUG 16:49 General Information RE: OS9UG (Re: Msg 89610) From: NIMITZ To: 01GEN40 Having sent that message publicly, I'd bet you'll be contacted by about a dozen different officers! Try CBJ - Carl Boll. David -*- 89614 28-AUG 18:45 General Information RE: OS9UG (Re: Msg 89517) From: CPERRAULT To: MRUPGRADE (NR) Terry, when your group called for more OS-9, they got it why? Because the USERS got active and supported OS-9. At this time, there is not activity for the 6809 because none of the users are communicating. The UG will support OS-9 Level two, hence it's own VP, but how much support you get reflects the amount of activity coming from us the users. This is what a users group is all about. As others have already told you, it's not a business where products are being sold, yet an organization where projects and activities can be centered around. If you have something you want to see done for the coco community, you can round up the people for the project and start your game plan, and will have the UG backing that, depending on how reasonable the request is, can help bring all the parts together so to speak. Consider it the kernal of the OS-9 community. >>if it's and OSK group, fine. Say so,,...<< Why? It's not an OSK group. It's an **OS-9** group, meaning anything related to OS-9. If it presents itself as a majority of OSK, that is only because the USERS of OSK are making the difference. The directors of the UG will probably have a little bias against Level II where it makes sense, such as financial sponsorship. I can't think of too many things that would be reasonable for the UG to drop money into for projects/materials relating to OS-9 level two, since it will probably not come back in any form. It would need a sure way of getting the money back to the UG. Even that's not definate tho. I imagine we have to wait for a specific situation involving funds to come along to get a clearer perspective. I think a few exceptions would be a few hardware/software projects. >>and perhaps the OS-9'ers,, will get something together "FOR OS- 9",, instead of sending on another twenty five bucks,, and hoping next year will be different.<< First off, the OS-9'ers already have something together "FOR OS- 9". It's called the OS-9 users group, something we have taken for granted so much, we haven't begun to utilize it. Why start yet another group to complicate things more, and only get similar results? If they want a more intimate atmosphere, they can also subscribe to regional UG's such as MI&CC, Glenside, CHI-UG, as well as ACS and others that aren't as well known. Btw, hopefully in the near future we can get a reference of all such smaller clubs. I would like to see the UG with a good working relationship with all such clubs, perhaps setting up some more regional branches itself in areas that can use them. Again, this depends on the needs and willingness of users. That is the whole point of the UG. As far as hoping next year will be different, perhaps if we did more than sit on our hands last year it would have been a little better? What is the exec supposed to do about that? What we need is a snowball effect. Let's get things rolling, even if it's only many smaller projects. That way, people with little leisure time can still have at least a little they can contribute. What would you like to see Terry? Btw, since you are the President of MI&CC, you are very qualified to answer this. How do you think the UG can help your club as well as others, and how would you like to work with the ug? I think a lot of collarboration with it's smaller clubs could be a driving force into the UG's future, and I think both sides should tap into each other. See Ya >Chris< -*- End of Thread. -*- 89615 28-AUG 18:45 Programmers Den RE: System Calls(??????) (Re: Msg 89543) From: CPERRAULT To: DBREEDING Thanks for the the syscall info David. I'm gonna save that message as yet another one of the help messages from here :-) I'm not sure how well I'll do with it when I try it out, but from the message, it is starting to make a little more sense. Reading source code from Basic listings in the Underground isn't hurting either. I'll let you all know how it works out when I try it. >Chris< -*- 89619 28-AUG 18:45 Programmers Den RE: System Calls(??????) (Re: Msg 89561) From: CPERRAULT To: JEJONES (NR) Thanks for the Syscall data James. I'm gonna save your message to a file with David's(these really do make great future references), and will let you all know how I do when I try it out. I'm still not too sure, but it is starting to make a little more sense. See Ya >Chris< -*- End of Thread. -*- 89616 28-AUG 18:45 OSK Applications RE: OS9000 (Re: Msg 89523) From: CPERRAULT To: WMBRADY (NR) >>I suppose I could dust off the evaluation copy of OS9000 that MW sent me & see if it boots up on this 486 I have here.<< Well, I think it's a safe bet that you can count on having OUR support ;-) >Chris< -*- 89625 28-AUG 19:39 OSK Applications RE: OS9000 (Re: Msg 89616) From: PHILSCHERER To: CPERRAULT Hi Chris--I'll second your statement of support to Bill!! -*- End of Thread. -*- 89617 28-AUG 18:45 General Information RE: NitrOS9 release (Re: Msg 89526) From: CPERRAULT To: MROWEN01 (NR) I noticed there was some more talk of it on the list. I haven't been real anxious to go 6309 like most of the others for some reason, but now I too think I'm gonna make the plunge. A lot of the compatibility problems should be corrected with this next version. >Chris< -*- 89618 28-AUG 18:45 General Information RE: OSK/AMIGA (Re: Msg 89552) From: CPERRAULT To: DSRTFOX (NR) >>Digby is indeed still going at it! I have made him an offer of becoming a US rep for the Amiga version of OS-9<< This is good news! Keep us updated, and hopefully if the system is complete and mature enough, we'll be able to get a promotional project going as well as porting Amiga software to OS-K, making it a boon to both sides. I'm assuming it still needs some work before anything can be started. Actually I can't see me personally involved in any such promotional program(until after I do everything else), but I can see where when the time is right, you should push it heavily, if you do become a rep. Btw, do you have an Amiga? >Chris< -*- 89620 28-AUG 18:46 General Information RE: Conference Announcement:OS-9 Late Ni (Re: Msg 89566) From: CPERRAULT To: JEVESTAL (NR) >>That would be ok, I have the latest version of PatchOS-9 for review in the OS-9 Underground.<< Good, I'll be looking forward to that. Btw, when is the next Underground going to be out? >>Concerning Monday nights:...if so I won't be home in time for the conference!<< D*mmit Jim! Really, keep me posted. If people aren't able to show, and I can find a good night where I don't have to be up early the next morning, then reschedualing won't be a bad idea. For now of course the schedual stands as Monday Nights at 10:00 pm eastern time. I agree, the live interaction can really help those of us who want to learn more about programming. I imagine general use of OS-9 including bootdisk making will be the main focus of the first one, but hopefully we'll get some programming stuff in there. I too am interested in C, but won't be getting too serious with it for a while. I do plan on taking it up tho, so I try to soak up whatever I see mentioned about it, as much as possible as it will come in handy later. Btw, do you still plan on covering basic09 in the Underground? I really like the Basic training series, tho I understand you plan to move more in the direction of C there. Is there anything in the works for Basic09, such as covering system calls,errors and debugging, and small routines. >Chris< -*- 89621 28-AUG 18:46 General Information Conference Reminder From: CPERRAULT To: ALL This is just a reminder to all that Tomorrow we will be having the first of hopefully many OS9 conferences. ***OS-9 Late Night *** ***Monday August 29, 1994** ***At 10:00 PM !!EASTERN!! :-)*** ***Topic:General*** Bring your thoughts,questions,opinions, and Money...(Ok, maybe I'm getting a little obnoxious ). This conference is going to be directed by those who attend, so if you have system problems this is the place to go for answers in real time :-) What should we be doing in the community to improve the quality of the Coco and OS-9? Monday night we can throw some ideas around. If I get my way the following three conferences will be dedicated topics covering some important current events within the community. Once I have things finalised, I'll make the official announcement in forum, hopefully by either Tuesday or Wednsday night. >Chris< -*- 89622 28-AUG 18:46 Users Group New Ug Project From: CPERRAULT To: ALL I am currently in the process of compiling a nationwide list of Computer shows/fairs for the OS9 Users Group. If anyone would like to help out with collecting information regarding shows in your area, please leave me some email. I will be seeking out shows that will be held in the Boston/New England area, but will need help from people in other states. If you can provide information about shows held annually each year in your area, please send me a message with the details and I will add it to a Database. Once I have enough entries, I will send the list off to the UG, and will keep it updated regularly. This will be a great help for the UG so that we can keep a regular record of shows coming up, should the exec plan to send a representative to these general computer shows to inform the people there of OS-9 and the UG. The vendors could also send attend with OSk hardware and software. Being present at general PC shows may be one of the better ways currently to promote OSK, and while it won't show right off, I would not be surprised to see a decent upsurge in sales after a regular attendance of these shows throughout the country. Eventually enough interest will emerge that people will look forward to seeing OSK Machines when they attend. The more they see of OSK and understand, the more they will get comfortable with it, and be willing to be such a machine. We all know who likes to attend Computer fairs...PROGRAMMERS!!! If anyone wants to jump in on this with me, please leave me mail. I would like to compile as thorough a list as possible, covering as much of the country as possible, before sending the first edition off to the UG. Hopefully MW will find this usefull also. What I need for info is: The Name of the show The name of the people who are running it, as well as who to get in touch with for info regarding it,and a phone number/mail address. Date the event will be on. The location of the the event itself And any more info you can come up with is welcome. This project is open to anyone who wants to participate, be you Level II or OSK ;-) >Chris< -*- FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit>