30102 10-JUN 23:53 Programmers Den RE: Multi-Vue programming (Re: Msg 29790) From: ALPHASOFT To: OS9UGPRES (NR) Kev, got another one for ya! I don't know if this one is possible either, but I can't think of a simple solution. I want to have multiple processes use the same menu bar. That is I want to have a program fork another program and have the second program use the same menu bar. Now I tried having the second program do an _ss_wset that is the same as the first, and this works but clears the screen! Is there any way to have the second process use the same menu bar without using _ss_wset in the second proc. or (similarly) is there a way to call _ss_wset without clearing the screen? Thanks for any help! -*- 30103 11-JUN 00:16 General Information Osterm From: DANCHAN To: ALL Hello Can i use Osterm without the RS232??????? Dan Chantigny (DANCHAN) -*- 30108 11-JUN 18:19 General Information RE: Osterm (Re: Msg 30103) From: DODGECOLT To: DANCHAN (NR) OSTerm is hard-corded to use a 6551-equipped serial port. I doubt that you would ever get it to work with the bit-banger... -Mike -*- End of Thread. -*- 30104 11-JUN 00:45 Grits & Gravy RE: Interleave factor (Re: Msg 30076) From: KENHALTER To: OS9UGPRES (NR) Thanks for the info.. See ya..Ken Halter -*- 30105 11-JUN 12:38 Utilities DUPFILE and DCHECK From: RADARBUZZ To: BRIANWHITE Brian, I've been using your Dupfile utility for some time now and think it's just neater than sliced bread! I have one concern though that maybe you can help me out with. The other day I ran DCHECK on a disk that I had recently "duped" some files on. DCHECK reported "previously allocated clusters" corresponding to those files and ended with "File structure not intact" (!!!). Now before I panic, can I assume that the file structure is ok (since you say in your doc file that Microware supported this feature in OS9)? My Guess is that DCHECK was not written to anticipate this feature. What do ya think? -Jeff -*- 30109 11-JUN 18:21 Utilities RE: DUPFILE and DCHECK (Re: Msg 30105) From: DODGECOLT To: RADARBUZZ Yep, DCheck doesn't pay attention to the link count in the file descriptor of all files. While RBF DOES honor file-linking (which is what dupfile does), I doubt that the author of the DCheck program considered paying attention to it... -Mike -*- 30130 12-JUN 23:02 Utilities RE: DUPFILE and DCHECK (Re: Msg 30105) From: GREGL To: RADARBUZZ Jeff, Quite right. DCheck doesn't check the link count on any of the files to see if they have been duplicated. Rerun DCheck with, I think, the -F option. That tells it to report the names of any files associated with questionable clusters. That way you can cross-reference the files to make sure they are, indeed, the files you dup'd. -- Greg -*- End of Thread. -*- 30106 11-JUN 13:01 Device Drivers RE: Ramdisks & 1Meg Upgrade (Re: Msg 30100) From: RADARBUZZ To: DODGECOLT Mike, offset $0d is set to $ff. I iniz /r0 and free shows me 8 free sectors. When I do a Dir I get a Error #253, Non sharable file busy (!!!). Take a look at the dump of my /r0 descriptor and compare it with yours. I think some thing still is not right. Btw, what are your DMODE values for /r0? Thanx again. -Jeff -*- 30107 11-JUN 18:17 Device Drivers RE: Ramdisks & 1Meg Upgrade (Re: Msg 30106) From: DODGECOLT To: RADARBUZZ VDD uses the 'sectors per track' field of the descriptor for the number of sectors in the ramdisk. Whoops, I just checked my descriptor- the byte at offset $0d SHOULD be changed to $bf. Otherwise RBF thinks that only one process can touch the ramdisk at a time. Iniz will increase the usuage count by 1, which gives you the error.... Hope it works now! -Mike -*- 30125 12-JUN 02:36 Device Drivers RE: Ramdisks & 1Meg Upgrade (Re: Msg 30098) From: EDDIEKUNS To: RADARBUZZ You don't need to format VDD's /r0. When you iniz it, it's automagically formatted. Also, for some obscure reason, they chose to use a weird way of telling VDD how big the drive is. I believe the ONLY important info in the descriptor is sct (sectors/track) which says how many 256-byte sectors the drive is. Eddie -*- End of Thread. -*- 30110 11-JUN 20:26 General Information RE: RMA (Re: Msg 30066) From: GREGL To: BRIANWHITE Brian, Actually, the 8086-series can do auto-increment and decrement much the same as the 6809's ,Y+ addressing. The LODS, STOS, and MOVS instructions are kinda the same as LDD ,X+ and STD ,Y+. The MOVS instruction is a combination LDD ,Y+ followed by STD ,X+. The direction is controlled via the direction flag in the flags register. But still, it ain't no 6809 for sure. One thing's for sure, Intel skimped something fierce on the stack manipulation instructions. You have to push individual registers singly onto the stack, no way to push all of them at once or selected registers. -- Greg -*- 30111 11-JUN 20:29 Utilities RE: New Dir (Re: Msg 29478) From: KLINDSAY To: SCG (NR) Yes, "dir -rn aif.*" is not correct. The shell provides the directory information to "dir" by supplying the wild card files as a parameter string. To do what you wanted, the SHELL would have to do the following: chd /h0/DIR1 dir -n aif.* chd .. chd /h0/DIR1/DIR2 dir -n aif.* In other words the SHELL only searchs your current data directory. PS. I am glad that you liked the utility, have you tried my "copy" utility, it uses wild cards supplied by the SHELL and can copy an entire directory by simply typing copy * -w=/d0/DIR0; * copys entire contents of entire working dir. K. Lindsay -*- 30112 11-JUN 21:03 Telcom RE: disable call waiting (Re: Msg 30097) From: GREGL To: ZACKSESSIONS Zack, Most Hayes compatible modems will dial the asterisk and pound keys directory. To disable call waiting you can send "ATDT *70,nnn-nnnn" and see if it works. If it does, you'll hear a double-beep to indicate that call waiting has been disabled. If it doesn't work, a common alternative is to dial "ATDT 1170,nnn-nnnn" which is supported by most common carriers as an alternate. -- Greg -*- 30186 16-JUN 20:53 Telcom RE: disable call waiting (Re: Msg 30097) From: TIMKOONCE To: ZACKSESSIONS Zack, At various times I have used "ATDT *70, 5555555" "ATDP 1170,T5555555" The latter one uses PULSE to dial the call-waiting dable, then uses TONE to dial the actual number. - Tim -*- 30189 16-JUN 22:35 Telcom RE: disable call waiting (Re: Msg 30186) From: ZACKSESSIONS To: TIMKOONCE after posting that plea for help, I read the manual. The modem accepts the * character just fine. Thanks, Zack -*- End of Thread. -*- 30113 11-JUN 21:45 General Information RE: ROBOT ODYESSY I (Re: Msg 30082) From: OS9BERT To: WAYNELAIRD (NR) No! I want to be able to run Robot Odyessy I from my hard drive under Level II. I stopped using Level I years ago!! (At least since the 3 came out). Bert Schneider -*- 30114 11-JUN 22:00 Patches Dynacalc Terminal Patches From: OS9BERT To: ALL Does anyone have or know where I can find patches to Dynacalc to allow you to use terminals tied to a serial port? I thought it might be one Compu- Serve. I don't subscribe to that service. If anyone knows where to find it, please let me know, or better yet, post it here on Delphi! Thanks. -*- 30115 11-JUN 22:06 General Information NEW USER From: KTT To: ALL I'm new to OS-9 and I would like to know how I can obtain a copy of the operating system and whether or not it will run on my machine. I have a Dell System 310 (an AT class 80386 machine) running at 20MHz. I would o know of any books written about OS-9. Thanks for the help. -*- 30116 11-JUN 23:25 General Information RE: NEW USER (Re: Msg 30115) From: THEREB To: KTT Welcome to the future, KTT! OS-9000, a new version of OS-9, IS available for the 80386 machines. I don't know what other requirements it has might be, though; I suggest you ask OS9UGPRES. He'd also be the one to ask (as far as I know) about books for OS-9000; it's probably significantly different (in some ways) from the original OS-9 I use on my 512k CoCo 3. Matt / THEREB -*- 30141 13-JUN 21:36 General Information RE: NEW USER (Re: Msg 30116) From: KTT To: THEREB Thanks for the help. I'll get a message to OS9UGPRES tonight. See ya later. KTT -*- End of Thread. -*- 30117 11-JUN 23:29 General Information OSK Mem Management, Raleigh Club. From: THEREB To: OS9UGPRES (NR) Is it true that we'll have to resort to Level One style memory management once we get OSK? That is, will we have to worry about fragmentation all over again? - - - When and where is the next meeting of the Raleigh club, and how do I get there from either US 401, I-40, or I-95? Our next one is 7:00 PM Tuesday, June 26th, at the Bordeaux library in Fayetteville. If you want to come (it's only, what, 90 mins away? ), call me or leave me a Forum message here for more directions. Matt Royal / THEREB 1601 Rogers Dr Fayetteville NC 28303 (919) 484-1230 >>>I hope KLE/IMS and FHL will start keeping an eye on the various Forums >>>and echoes so they'll know what users REALLY want. . . Unlike Tandy. -*- 30118 12-JUN 01:01 General Information RE: Questions about the MM/1 (Re: Msg 30078) From: KEITHMARCH To: OS9UGPRES (NR) Hi: Thanks for the info. Please keep any updates and NEW info comming!! Keith -*- 30119 12-JUN 01:03 General Information RE: Questions about the MM/1 (Re: Msg 30089) From: KEITHMARCH To: NES Hello NES: Please see Mess # 30018 Thanks for the Help! Keith -*- 30120 12-JUN 01:04 General Information RE: Questions about the MM/1 (Re: Msg 30119) From: KEITHMARCH To: KEITHMARCH Sorry NES; That was soppost to be Mess # 30118. Keith -*- End of Thread. -*- 30121 12-JUN 02:02 General Information RE: Shell+ (Re: Msg 30063) From: EDDIEKUNS To: BRIANWHITE Actually, I think all the code for shell history should be in the shell. If that code is in SCFMan, then the shell won't have its own history. It will share the history with everything that does a readln! And that code isn't difficult. I already have it written in C, debugged, and working! (But not in the context of the REST of the shell.) Eddie -*- 30122 12-JUN 02:16 General Information RE: A new kitten in the house! (Re: Msg 30073) From: EDDIEKUNS To: OS9UGPRES (NR) Yeah -- the two cats are the best of buddies now! The adult cat puts up with the kitten's exhuberance! (He keeps attacking him!) You can tell they're not serious tho because Set (the adult cat) will turn the kitten over and hold him down ... then start licking him! (And the kitten who obviously has some siamese blood makes this weird quacking sound! Really more of a growl I guess. He made the same sound when playing with his siblings tho.) The kitten is really affectionate, but Set is noticably less friendly now. He plays with the kitten but doesn't hang around us people much any more! Except now I have TWO cats sleeping with me at night. And I make sure to give BOTH of them lots of affection so no-one gets jealous! And I have to play with both of them. And the kitten just discovered the joy of scattering a newspaper across the living room floor! Ah, I'd forgotten just how mischivious Set was as a kitten. :) I'm just glad the two of them get along! Eddie -*- 30128 12-JUN 18:13 General Information RE: A new kitten in the house! (Re: Msg 30122) From: ZACKSESSIONS To: EDDIEKUNS If your kittens have the run of the bathroom, make sure the toilet paper comes off the roll from the bottom, and NOT the top! (I found out the hard way!) Zack -*- 30132 12-JUN 23:07 General Information RE: A new kitten in the house! (Re: Msg 30128) From: EDDIEKUNS To: ZACKSESSIONS Right Zack, I found out also! If the toilet paper comes from the bottom -- they don't destroy it? Eddie -*- 30138 13-JUN 18:04 General Information RE: A new kitten in the house! (Re: Msg 30132) From: ZACKSESSIONS To: EDDIEKUNS Well, if the tp comes fromthe bottom they can still destroy it, that just make it harder for them to unroll the whole roll onto the floor by just pawing at it! I came home soon after getting a couple of kittens only to find the whole roll sitting in a big pile on the floor. Funny when you think about it! Zack -*- End of Thread. -*- 30123 12-JUN 02:19 General Information RE: Unlink (Re: Msg 30075) From: EDDIEKUNS To: OS9UGPRES (NR) Is there any way to force a module with the sticky bit set out of memory? It sounds like a really neat feature! I just can't wait for OSk! It'll be *really* nice to be using an operating system which is actually supported. :) Eddie -*- 30126 12-JUN 02:39 Programmers Den Bug in the Kreider Library? From: EDDIEKUNS To: ALL I believe I've discovered a bug in the Kreider library. printf("%5s\n", "This is a test"); prints out: This is a test and not: This as it should. %s is supposed to act differently from the other % fields in that any number is an absolute maximum length! Eddie -*- 30145 14-JUN 01:24 Programmers Den RE: Bug in the Kreider Library? (Re: Msg 30126) From: GREGL To: EDDIEKUNS Eddie, El-wrongo, buddie. When you specify "%5s" you are telling printf() to print a string with a minimum field width of 5 characters. That field width is expanded if necessary to fit the entire string. Want proof of the pudding? Try this example: printf("%5s%c", "s", 'c'); "s c" Do you want to limit the field width to five characters? If so, specify "%.5s" as the field width. That will do what you want. Aka, printf("%.5s", "This is a test" will print: "This " Just gotta keep the p's and q's straight. There's a big difference between the two format specifiers. The first is expandable, the second is not. -- greg -*- 30147 14-JUN 01:30 Programmers Den RE: Bug in the Kreider Library? (Re: Msg 30145) From: EDDIEKUNS To: GREGL You're entirely correct. I goofed. Eddie -*- 30161 15-JUN 00:44 Programmers Den RE: Bug in the Kreider Library? (Re: Msg 30145) From: RAGTIMER To: GREGL Sheesh Greg, I didn't know that printf trick. I guess that .5 notation comes from the floating-point formats. Eddie, another useful item is preceding the number with a minus sign, which right-justifies the string if it's shorter than the field width: printf("%-5s!", "hi") prints " hi!". -*- End of Thread. -*- 30127 12-JUN 02:44 General Information RE: New Guy (Re: Msg 30084) From: EDDIEKUNS To: PAULRINEAR As someone else has said ... you may have XModem junk at the end of the file which the C compiler is responding to. Eddie -*- 30129 12-JUN 20:47 Programmers Den RE: Shell+ 2.1 and Vi (Re: Msg 30092) From: MAREK To: RICKADAMS I seems to me that I vaguely remember that a patch for that problem was effected by someone, I don't remember whom. Anyhow you may want to take a look at a file (I beleive it is here) that originally was transferre under the filename TSEdit_A.ar. This was another ipatch overlay that patched tsedit to use the 80 column screens and cleaned up the code for various and sundry other problems while running under Level 2. Once again Ii do not who to give the credit to for this...but anyhow, the printing problem does not exist within this patch. -Michael -*- 30131 12-JUN 23:05 General Information RE: Files Bug (Re: Msg 30069) From: EDDIEKUNS To: BRIANWHITE I passed on your message to Pete. Here's his reply: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: IN%"pete%WLBR@WLV.IMSD.CONTEL.COM" 12-JUN-1990 13:47:57.55 To: EKUNS@zodiac.rutgers.edu, pete%wlbr@WLV.IMSD.CONTEL.COM Subj: Re: Forwarded message from Delphi RE HDKit Eddie - Thanks for forwarding that 'files' bug report... Good research on the part of the reporter too. I'll see what I can dig up.. Pete -*- 30133 13-JUN 01:53 General Information RE: Shell+ (Re: Msg 30060) From: KNOT1 To: BRIANWHITE Oh, by the way, did you need a patch for chd requiring write permission? If so, here's one: * Patches shellplus's "chd" so that write permision * to the directory is not needed to change to it. l Shell c 09BE 83 81 v Chx does not seem to have that same problem as far as I can tell. If you needed this I hope it helps. -Jamie (KNOT1)- -*- 30134 13-JUN 01:55 Programmers Den RE: Aciapak bugs. Chapter 3. (Re: Msg 30077) From: KNOT1 To: OS9UGPRES (NR) Kevin, I did some further testing. Here's a little more detail I figured out: echo hello >/w2 - Locked up. Echo has not even been called yet. Shell is locked up in attempting to open a path to /w2. BREAK (w1) - Unlocks Shell to open path to /w2. Shell now forks echo. Echo is now locked up in attempt to write to /w2. BREAK (w1) - Unlocks echo to write to /w2. "Hello" message now gets through. Procs shows that echo is still running after this BREAK. Probably locked up on F$Exit, which is attempting to close all open paths. Shell also seems to be locked up. Most likely attempting to restore its paths to normal from after redirecting its output. SHIFT-BREAK (w2) - (Used SHIFT-BREAK just to get a different signal.) Interupts the Shell's read, which was tying up /w2. Allows Shell (on /w1) and echo to close thier paths and finish up. ERROR #002 shows up on /w1 and ERROR #003 shows up on /w2, so the signal is not being transferred between processes. If nothing else, this shows why BREAK needs to be pressed twice. Maybe it'll shed some more light on the case. -Jamie (KNOT1)- -*- 30135 13-JUN 01:56 General Information RE: OS9 vs. PCDOS -- gripe bucket (Re: Msg 30086) From: KNOT1 To: PAULRINEAR Sure thing, Paul. Look in your June Rainbow on page 55. It's offered by Eversoft Games Ltd. for $29.95. It's a Galaxien-like game, but far better than any ARCADE version I've seen. After you try it, I'd be glad to hear what you think of it. -Jamie (KNOT1)- -*- 30140 13-JUN 18:49 General Information RE: OS9 vs. PCDOS -- gripe bucket (Re: Msg 30135) From: PAULRINEAR To: KNOT1 I'm going to order it tomorrow. Part of a spending spree. Will let you know. Looks like I'm going to forced into getting the bugs out of my monitor now. Paul -*- 30176 16-JUN 09:58 General Information RE: OS9 vs. PCDOS -- gripe bucket (Re: Msg 29945) From: BERGMANN To: PAULSENIURA (NR) It's interesting to see what the MS-DOSers have to go through, but you're preaching to the converted here in this SIG. Have you posted your article in other Forums? I'm sure it would raise a few hairs. Sad to say that it brags about the CoCo just when Tandy is bringing it to an end. It would be good to give the IBMers a comparison with the new machines when they come out and are supported with decent software. Do you have any idea how I can get a copy of 68 Micro Journal? Believe it or not, no store or library here in the Dallas/Fort Worth area have it. Not even university libraries or bookstores that specialize in technical publications. -Dean -*- 30177 16-JUN 11:22 General Information RE: OS9 vs. PCDOS -- gripe bucket (Re: Msg 30176) From: JENG To: BERGMANN Here is the phone number and address to 68 Micro Journal. 615 842-4600 68 Micro Journal Computer Publishing Center 5900 Cassandra Smith Rd. Hixson, TN 37343 Their last issue was Jan/Feb 1990, What they told me is that they are going through changes and their next issue is/was to be printed sometime in the next couple of weeks, so we will wait and see. Their last issue had a good article on OS-9 for Personal Computers written by Erich Gibbs of Gibbs Laboratories inc.(OS-9 for IBM and Macintosh) Hope this can help you out! JENG -*- 30178 16-JUN 11:47 General Information RE: OS9 vs. PCDOS -- gripe bucket (Re: Msg 30176) From: JENG To: BERGMANN I forgot to give you 68 Micro Journals toll free number,1 800 669-6809 or their FAX 615 842-4607 JENG -*- 30180 16-JUN 13:17 General Information RE: OS9 vs. PCDOS -- gripe bucket (Re: Msg 30177) From: BERGMANN To: JENG Thanks! That definitely helps. -Dean -*- End of Thread. -*- 30136 13-JUN 02:42 General Information RE: kissable os9 (Re: Msg 30010) From: DALEP To: TEDJAEGER Ted, Great! We just uploaded it for publication tonight. It's pretty slick. Hope it helps you with your record keeping. Best Regards. Dale -*- 30137 13-JUN 02:44 General Information RE: Pictures Needed (Re: Msg 30035) From: DALEP To: DICKWHITE (NR) Dick, Thanks ... and Good Luck !!! Dale -*- 30139 13-JUN 18:12 Programmers Den CGFX Documentation Typos... From: DODGECOLT To: ALL Well, folks, I just found a few typos in the doocumentation foor my CGFX replacement library. The first bunch are on page 7 with the menuing functions. I forgot to include the menu pointer in the decllaration for the MVMenuXY and MenuXY functions. The corrected declarations should be: int MenuXY(path,title,itemptr,column,row,fg,bg); int MVMenuXY(path,title,itemptr,column,row,fg,bg); The MVFName() function is also missing the column and row argumeents. The correct declaration for that function should be: char *MVFName(path,title,column,row,fg,bg); Sorry for any inconvience this may have caused! -Mike -*- 30142 13-JUN 21:39 Graphics & Music RE: MVCanvas 2.0 (Re: Msg 30071) From: RAGTIMER To: OS9UGPRES (NR) Well, I just fofllow the procedure in the manual -- pump down on that green handle inside, wait till the ALERT lite stops blinking, and see what the test message says. Once I had to do it about 3 times. The manual says if that doesn't do it, to take it to RadShack for repairs, but I say just keep trying. Of course, by now one or more of your jets may be really frozen up tight. But give it a try. If you don't have the manual, ask me for more details. Actually there must be some real grafix freaks on here that have more ideas. Say, do ANY of your four jets work? And did you ever use the printer a lot? Maybe some have run dry, and you need to get new cartridges at a Computer Center. Keep floggin' that MM/1 window system -- mike k. -*- 30143 13-JUN 21:45 General Information GEN From: KTT To: OS9UGPRES (NR) THEREB directed me to you. He told me there was an os-9000 available for 80386 machines and that you could instruct me on how I could get a copy. I'm also interested in any reference books that may be availableon OS-9. Thanks in advance for your time and help. KTT -*- 30144 14-JUN 00:23 General Information 1-meg problems? From: EDDIEKUNS To: ALL OK. My GIME finally came in! :) And of course immediately after I got the new one in we had a HUGE thunderstorm. 1/2-an-hour of solid lightning! The lightning is finally gone enough that I can test it out! Well, the sparklies are GONE. completely. I'm impressed. BUT. (You knew that was coming ... didn't you?) The other problems are still here! I ran MVCanvas (with gfx screen coming from the upper 512k) and immediately noticed that line of garbage which I sometimes see with programs using the autofollow mouse on a screen in the upper 512k. (And very, very rarely see on another graphics screen. I've *never* seen it on a text screen, and never on a graphics screen in the lower 512k or on a graphics screen anywhere in memory when in 512k mode.) The garbage line looks like it's about 7 or 8 scan lines high, and I only see it occasionally and at a random position on the screen. It fills the entire width of the screen, and flashes on for a fraction of a second. The other weirdness is that when I switch from the MVCanvas window to the next window (which happens to be /term ... an 80x24 window, not VDG), the screen VERY momentarily fills with colored blocks before giving me the /term window. But if I to the previous window, I don't get that. I don't remember seeing this one before tonight. My CoCo has entirely too much personality. For all its lifetime it has acted weird. Maybe it's just time to scrap it and start afresh? (Heh. If only I had the cash.) Anyone have any ideas where I could look? Could it be an out-of-tolerance resistor or something along those lines? I was all psyched that I could finally put my CoCo back together. As time goes on ... I just get more impatient for the MM1. It's enough to make me understand why people leave the CoCo. I feel like beating my head against a wall!!!! I just don't know what I can do any more. I've tried eveything I know, and my CoCo still acts differently from everyone elses. Well, I should go before a lightning strike fries my CoCo, forcing me to spend another $130 I don't have. (Just paid all the bills today. :( The good news is that my auto insurance dropped by about 45% I think 'cause I turned 25 in March. I'm not gonna complain. :) I don't mean to be hysterical here. I'm far too tired, irritatable, and behind in everything I'm trying to do. :( I'll feel better on Saturday after I've finally had a chance to sleep in. Later all, Eddie -*- 30146 14-JUN 01:25 General Information RE: 1-meg problems? (Re: Msg 30144) From: EDDIEKUNS To: ALL After a little more testing, I have some more information. When I switch from any graphics screen to a different type screen (either a text screen or a different type graphics screen) I get a burst of garbage before I see the new screen. This occurs no matter which direction I switch, forwards or backwards. If I go from one graphics screen to another of the exact same type ... no garbage. Also, of course, between text screens there's no garbage. Still absolutely no sparklies tho! Also with the new GIME ... it seems like the screen is much closer to the left margin of the monitor screen. With the 'horizontal adjust' knob on the monitor centered, I lose almost two columns of text!!! With it turned all the way to one extreme, I just barely don't lose anything. Why o why is my CoCo so weird. Oh ... why o why can't it work? With my new GIME chip Plus a fan inside too Oh WHY oh why is it weird? Eddie -*- 30160 15-JUN 00:40 General Information RE: 1-meg problems? (Re: Msg 30144) From: RAGTIMER To: EDDIEKUNS Eddie, I once had your problem (very minor) where CLEARing to /TERM would give a momentray flash of a very poorly played Tetris game :-) just as you describe. It went away and I haven't seen it since. I probably haven't run MVCanvas since I got the 1 Meg, tho I did run GShell for a few minutes just to blow away some RAM fast (Few minutes is all GSHell stays up for anyway). So I can't comment on the other problem. I do sometimes see what you describe tho -- sort of a sloppy DAT image swap is what I figure. Have you run The Maze in the upper half yet? -*- 30165 15-JUN 02:13 General Information RE: 1-meg problems? (Re: Msg 30160) From: EDDIEKUNS To: RAGTIMER (NR) Yes, I've run The Maze. :) After I resoldered the header pins to the 6809 ( Well, a friend soldered them...) it worked much better! BTW, just for grins, I'm running maze right now in the background. When you saw that junk when CLEARing -- was that when you cleared to a VDG screen? Or was your /term a window device. I get it when switching between windows. (I rarely open a VDG. :) So far, my CoCo hasn't crashed with the 1-meg. So I think the problems I have are cosmetic and not fatal. And with the new GIME I have *no* sparklies! It's rather a surprise since I'm so used to them! Eddie -*- End of Thread. -*- 30148 14-JUN 11:37 Users Group RE: Advent (Re: Msg 29911) From: EASYSINGLES To: OS9BERT Thanks for the help. I finally got the game to work by useing shorter data file names. Now I have a new problem. The documentation and help files don't tell how to restore a saved game. I scanned all the data files and all the source files. and all the executable files with dEd, I found one reference to a restore command but it hasn't worked yet. Does ANYONE have any ideas. Thanks for any help. Bob -*- 30181 16-JUN 13:54 Users Group RE: Advent (Re: Msg 30148) From: GREGL To: EASYSINGLES (NR) Bob, To restore a saved game, I believe the syntax is 'advent -r saved' where "saved" is the name of the game. -- Greg -*- End of Thread. -*- 30149 14-JUN 19:43 General Information R.S.PROGS ON HARD DRIVE From: ALWAGNER To: OS9UGPRES (NR) I recently purchased an OWL hard drive system. The system seems nice enough and what I have gotten to work on it runs much faster when disk access is called for. However, I've run into a number of problems getting Radio Shack programs to run with access to the Owl system. I know I could probably purchase new software that would work first shot on the hard drive but I would like to continue using software I am familiar with and after the expense of the drive, well, need I say more? The particular programs I would like to make work are as follows: TSWORD (along with TSEDIT & TSPELL), & PROFILE. Tsword Isuspect needs a patch to recognize something besides the original floppies. It seems to start loading ok but when it gets to where it wants to load the icons the screen goes blank except for what looks like static dashes randomly sprinkled on the screen. I tried running Tsword from the standard drives and using the hard drive as a data disk but again, when I try to access the hard drive the screen again does the same thing. With profile, the program seems to load but then the disk light goes out and after a few seconds an error 221 shows up. I can't seem to figure out what module is missing. Now I must admit I haven't used profile since I got my COCO 3, but I didn't try to boot level 1.0 on the 3. I tried running from floppy and from hard drive with the same results. I hope you or some one you could refer me to has had some success with getting these to work. Thanks again in advance for your time. Sincerely, AlWagner P.S. Since originally posting this message, I found the patch for PROFILE in the database. I've not had such luck with TSEDIT, TSWORD, or TSPELL. PROFILE now works as it should. Again Thanks for your time. AlWagner -*- 30150 14-JUN 20:19 Graphics & Music midi From: BRYAN To: ALL I recently bought a casio ct-670 keyboard and am using umusev3 to play it. My problem is that when i change instruments all channels change to that instrument. I would appreciate any help on this thanks, Bryan. -*- 30157 14-JUN 22:56 Graphics & Music RE: midi (Re: Msg 30150) From: CTL56 To: BRYAN (NR) MT-240. When you change instruments, make sure that the other channels have been assigned an instrument before the change. Also make sure that you have different instruments on different channels. I found out that on the Casio Keyboards you can have the following; Channel 1 - 6 Notes Channel 2 - 4 Notes Channel 3 - 2 Notes That means that you can have 6 notes playing at the same time one channel one but they must be the same instrument. I hope that this will help. I have learned this by expermenting with UMusE3 with different songs. -*- 30162 15-JUN 00:54 Graphics & Music RE: midi (Re: Msg 30157) From: RAGTIMER To: CTL56 Thanks to CTL56 for a correct piece of help. Also some synths have an OMNI mode, where any channel has the same effect, so make sure your synth isn't in that mode. I think the Casio MT-540 and 640 can do a few more notes than the 240 -- maybe. I do know that they can receive percussion clock timing on channel 4, and instrument changes there will cause style changes (rap reggae samba ...). In fact the MT240 manual says these, but they only work on the big brothers 540 and 640. Thanks for using Umuse3. And CTL56, I liked your Bells of St Mary's (hope it was you). Looks like a 4-hands piano duet arrangement. Love the Irish Jig in between the verses. Hope to "hear" more from you. PS: Re the original question -- are you using a version with the dual row ? If so, put the ? tool over anya note to see what instrument it's expected to play. If this agrees with the synth but not with what you wanted, then use CTL56's advice to fix things up. --mike k -*- End of Thread. -*- 30151 14-JUN 21:37 Telcom DIN cable From: FRANCALCRAFT To: ALL In order to use the bitbanger port on the CoCo3 for OS9 telecommunication, what does one have to do to the DIN cable to get the port to send an interrupt when a bit arrives? -*- 30164 15-JUN 02:00 Telcom RE: DIN cable (Re: Msg 30151) From: EDDIEKUNS To: FRANCALCRAFT To get the bitbanger to send an interrupt when a bit arrives, first cut the wire to pin 1, and then jumper pin 1 to pin 2. At least, that's the instructions that come with the 'bitbang' driver I've used. (Not terribly successfully!) Eddie -*- 30166 15-JUN 18:21 Telcom RE: DIN cable (Re: Msg 30164) From: FRANCALCRAFT To: EDDIEKUNS Thanks very much. Have you tried it with XTERM? -*- 30169 16-JUN 00:10 Telcom RE: DIN cable (Re: Msg 30166) From: EDDIEKUNS To: FRANCALCRAFT (NR) So far, I've only tried the hacked-up cable & bitbang driver with KBCom. Eddie -*- End of Thread. -*- 30152 14-JUN 21:40 Device Drivers Device drivers From: FRANCALCRAFT To: ALL I have a question about the terminal drivers that come with XTERM. All the drivers use some store commands in extended address mode (e.g. STD >$0127) to place 2 bytes at $0127. What is at $0127??? -*- 30153 14-JUN 22:35 Graphics & Music RE: framed window within a framed window (Re: Msg 30094) From: NES To: DODGECOLT Thanx Mike for the Help. -Eric -*- 30154 14-JUN 22:47 Applications From: GENEDEAL To: ALL Does anyone know how to solve the conflict between the J&M controller and Dynacalcs ability to write directly to the printer. Perhaps it's a driver /descriptor problem, but since I got the parallel printer port going I have to write my DC files to disk, th en print them later. It's a hassel. Gene Deal -*- 30163 15-JUN 01:00 Applications RE: (Re: Msg 30154) From: RAGTIMER To: GENEDEAL (NR) Uh-oh -- I wonder if Dynacalc is using its own little routine to bang the bits in the bity-banger serial port? If so, it won't work with any other port. But if you actually tell it /P, then it must be using a device descriptor and driver, so forget that. There's no real excuse for banging the bits yourself unless going over 9600 Baud (as for MIDI). -*- End of Thread. -*- 30155 14-JUN 22:51 General Information RE: os9 dev. sys. software (Re: Msg 29926) From: GENEDEAL To: RANDYE Randy, I would be interested in any info you turn up on this. Gene Deal -*- 30183 16-JUN 17:55 General Information RE: os9 dev. sys. software (Re: Msg 30155) From: RANDYE To: GENEDEAL (NR) I was able to call the Radio Shack store mentioned by Eddie and they sent me the os9 dev sys which I charged via VISA. RANDYE -*- End of Thread. -*- 30156 14-JUN 22:52 General Information OS-9000 From: THEREB To: KTT Hi, KTT. . . Another avenue you might want to try is writing the company that puts out the various versions of OS-9: Microware Systems Corporation.; ;; Ah, I can't find the address. If someone reads this and has a copy of the Basic09 Tour Guide on hand, or anything else with Microware's address on it, can you leave KTT a message with the mailing address? Thanks. . . Matt (THEREB) -*- 30158 14-JUN 22:59 General Information RE: OS-9000 (Re: Msg 30156) From: CTL56 To: KTT i have the address for Microware Microware Systems Corp. 1866 N.W. 114th Street Des Moines, Iowa 50322 Hope it helps -*- End of Thread. -*- 30159 14-JUN 23:02 General Information hardware From: GENEDEAL To: MPASSER Keyboard is coming your way. Letter enclosed. Let me know how it goes. Gene Deal -*- 30175 16-JUN 09:54 General Information RE: hardware (Re: Msg 30159) From: MPASSER To: GENEDEAL (NR) Thanks! Mike Passer -*- End of Thread. -*- 30167 15-JUN 18:45 General Information failing MPI From: TEDJAEGER To: DALEP (NR) Dale, could you explain error 240 - unit error to me? I get it everytime I try to access my HD after booting up with a disk that has /h0 renamed /hd. I am using a new (small) MPI that refuses to boot my HD with /h0 in the boot modules. For some reason my older (large) MPI works perfect in my sytem but the newer smaller one will not allow me to bring my RS HD on line. (Grrr..)! --Thanks, TedJaeger -*- 30171 16-JUN 02:18 General Information RE: failing MPI (Re: Msg 30167) From: KNOT1 To: TEDJAEGER Just budding in here, but do you think your new MPI might be defective? Maybe it's not accessing that slot correctly? -Jamie (KNOT1)- -*- 30182 16-JUN 16:22 General Information RE: failing MPI (Re: Msg 30171) From: TEDJAEGER To: KNOT1 Thanks for the interest. The MPI works fine with RSDOS and works fine with OS9 in an all floppy arrangement. I have put the floppy controller in slot # 3 (where my HD interface normally is) and software selected it by appropriate POKE, and then EXEC RSDOS ok. To beat it all this is the second one of the newer (smaller) MPIs I have tried and both fail to bring the RS HD on line. Radio Shack Fort Worth says is should work but ... I did check to make sure 12 volts were present on the appropriate pins and that is OK. I am stumped! --Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. --TedJaeger -*- End of Thread. -*- 30168 15-JUN 22:17 Applications Fortune Cookies! From: ZACKSESSIONS To: ALL Attention hard disk users! I have uploaded a new fortune cookie program to the library. I currently resides in the New Uploads library. It is set apart from other fortune cookie programs by the size of its cookie jar file. Almost 6000 cookies! But this number of cookies means that the file is very large, also. Archived it is almost 500000 bytes large, at 2400 baud using YModem it will take almost an hour to download it. And the de-archived cookie file is almost 800000 bytes large. Enjoy! Zack -*- 30170 16-JUN 00:46 Graphics & Music New Score: Rondo alla turca Mozart From: XLIONX To: ALL Howdy ALL, you too RAGTIMER ];->. Check out the Mozart piece probably in new uploads (if it ever gets posted). It is in OS9ARC format so you need 'DEARC' found on this forum. Leave me mail or messages if you have an opinion! Mark W. Farrell SIGOp ProSIG (Pinball Haven RIBBS (708)428-8445) XLIONX (DELPHI) -*- 30191 16-JUN 23:23 Graphics & Music RE: New Score: Rondo alla turca Mozart (Re: Msg 30170) From: CTL56 To: XLIONX (NR) I would like to hear you music but I am unable to find DEARC here anywhere on DELPHI in the OS9 section. If you could u advise me where it is or upload it I will listen to it. Thanks -*- End of Thread. -*- 30172 16-JUN 03:11 Device Drivers MIDI From: PHILZEIGLER To: ALL Programs such as UltiMusE III make reference to a device /MIDI. Supposedly this is for support of several popular homemade MIDI hardware. Does anyone know more information on these devices and where one might obtain plans for the midi pak? I am interested in a more cost effective MIDI PAK. Anyone have a COCO MIDI PAK for sale... cheap? Phil Zeigler -*- 30173 16-JUN 09:07 General Information ST-125 Seagate? From: JANG To: ALL Hi all, I just got a Seagate ST-125 3.5" 20 Meg HD and am trying to connect it as my "H1" drive. I have a good(but slow) 10 Meg(from Arizona guy) I made a "Y" cable and went from the available plug on the WD 1002 controller and can't boot with harddrives. Could anyone help me along here, I sure need some more memory.... G. Angus -*- 30174 16-JUN 09:33 General Information RE: ST-125 Seagate? (Re: Msg 30173) From: ZACKSESSIONS To: JANG Normally harddrives have two cables, one cable (the wide one) is "daisy chained" to all drives, just like a standard floppy drive cable. The other cable (the narrow one) go from the controller to each drive, that is there is a calbe from the controller to the drive for all drives. Two drives, two cables. So all together you'll have three cables for two drives. Also, you'kll need to remove the "terminating resistor" from the first drive, making sure you leave the resistor in place on the last drive. It is a flat thingy usually on the bottom part of the drive. You'll also need to jumper the drive as the next unit, usually they come jumpered as the first drive, just move the select jumper over one slot. Zack -*- 30187 16-JUN 21:05 General Information RE: ST-125 Seagate? (Re: Msg 30174) From: JANG To: ZACKSESSIONS Ah, yes... Thanks for the prompt reply, I follow you very well so far and the cables are in the right places.. Finding the resistors is the catch here. My controller is mounted right on on top of the Hard drive board, so I may have a real problem here.. On the New drive the board is fully accessable but I can only distinguish the jumper so far.. any hints as to what a terminating resistor looks like.. Oh, by the way I called Seagate and they are sending the manual now.. so that may help.. thanks a lot.. will let you know how it turns out... Jang -*- 30190 16-JUN 22:37 General Information RE: ST-125 Seagate? (Re: Msg 30187) From: ZACKSESSIONS To: JANG (NR) The terminating resistor is normally mounted on the drive itself. On both of my Seagate 5.25" HDs, they are very conspicuous on the bottom of the unit. Zack -*- End of Thread. -*- 30179 16-JUN 13:04 Utilities UNPACK From: CONDUCTOR To: ALL At one time I had a program which would unpack a packed (I code) basic09 file. I can't remeber the name or the source of the program but I need it or one performing the same function. Thanks for any help. CONDUCTOR -*- 30184 16-JUN 19:27 Applications OS9 Development System From: RADARBUZZ To: ALL I guess I'm a little late, but I see one guy was successful by asking here, so ... If any one knows of an available copy of the OS9 Dev. Sys. sitting in a Radio Shack somewhere, let me know. Non of the stores in northwest Florida got it and a call to Ft Worth was fruitless. Also, anybody want to sell me a used copy (but I'll post that request in a more appropriate place also). Looks like my procrastination has gotten me again. -Jeff -*- 30188 16-JUN 22:06 Applications RE: OS9 Development System (Re: Msg 30184) From: TJSEAGROVE To: RADARBUZZ (NR) Give CoCoPro a cal as they specialize in used software with original documen- tation. Their number is 1-313-481-3283. Dave Meyers is the owner and gets a great number of different software packages in. ....Tom -*- End of Thread. -*- 30185 16-JUN 20:50 General Information RE: Shell+ (Re: Msg 30062) From: TIMKOONCE To: BRIANWHITE Brian, My "alias" does not go through the shell. It compiles a short program which does some string operations to concatenate the fixed arguments to the arguments given the alias, then does an F$Chain to call the "real" program. Kind of fun calculating CRCs and header parity checks before you write out the compiled module. - Tim -*- 30192 17-JUN 02:10 Graphics & Music Get/Put Buffers From: BRIANWHITE To: OS9UGPRES (NR) Kevin, That problem with the disk editor was kind of strange. As long as the editor does a seek to a specifiec position, there should have been no problem, and I don't know what other kinds of seeks are available. Is there some restriction on the SS.MpGPB SetStt call that won't allow more than one get/put buffer to be mapped in at any one time? If so, could you tell me how to patch this and whether the same restriction exists on the new OS-9 (yet to be released a s far as I know)? Thanx! Brian -*- 30200 17-JUN 02:48 Graphics & Music RE: Get/Put Buffers (Re: Msg 30192) From: TIMKOONCE To: BRIANWHITE (NR) Brian, I found that bug myself. Ugh. As far as I can tell, the bug is that IF the Get/Put buffer you're requesting is in a block that's already mapped into your address space, then the wrong address gets returned. I've already asked, and "they" claim that this has been fixed in the upgrade. Until then, don't have more than one mapped in at a time seems the only workaround, at least if you want other people to be able to use your programs ! - Tim -*- End of Thread. -*- 30193 17-JUN 02:10 Graphics & Music Clipboard From: BRIANWHITE To: MIKEHAALAND (NR) Hi Mike, It was you who came up with the new clipboard standard, right? I hope so, or I'm sending this to the wrong person. Anyway, could you please reserve a number for me. It is for the program Bells & Whistles 3. It doesn't really matter what you call it. The number will be used when for moving music information around. The music format doc will be posted eventually for everyone to see. Thanx! Brian -*- 30194 17-JUN 02:11 General Information DupFile & DCheck From: BRIANWHITE To: RADARBUZZ (NR) Jeff, You're right on the money with that one. I found that bug in DCheck, too, and as far as I know, there is no way around it. When I finish my disk doctor (don't hold your breath, it's not too high up on my programming list just yet), it will recognize it Brian P.S. I've had a friend of mine suggest that I re-write dupfile to look more like the copy command in its pathname handling, and also add a "Move" option that would delete the original file. What do you think? -*- 30195 17-JUN 02:11 General Information Alias From: BRIANWHITE To: EDDIEKUNS Eddie, I'd like to know what method you used to do that prototype. If SCFMan could give signals on specific key presses, it would be easy to have the shell respond to the up and down arrows, but I doubt Kev has added that to OS-9. Brian P.S. I'll be BCWHITE@ELETRICAL.WATSTAR.WATERLOO.EDU in the fall. I'll check on that when I get back at the first of September and let you know. I just couldn't send off-campus mail to anybody. Maybe somebody should compose a list of these addresses f or the CoCo Community. -*- 30201 17-JUN 06:13 General Information RE: Alias (Re: Msg 30195) From: EDDIEKUNS To: BRIANWHITE (NR) My program just read's the characters from the input path! Real simple! I never do a readln. And I wrote a line-editor from scratch. Eddie -*- End of Thread. -*- 30196 17-JUN 02:12 General Information CHD Patch From: BRIANWHITE To: KNOT1 (NR) Thanx Jamie, I had already found it with dEd, but hopefully somebody else will find it a use. What caused you so search that little bug out? Brian -*- 30197 17-JUN 02:12 General Information Serial Mouse From: BRIANWHITE To: OS9UGVP (NR) Hi Bruce (I hope), Thanx so much for those serial mouse patches. They works just great. It is so nice not to have that jittery pointer any longer... At least until I return the mouse to work on Monday. Just one question. How can I adjust the speed the pointer follows the mouse? I'd like to cut it in half (move the mouse twice as far). Also, the first time I ran the mouse, the system hung on the second click. After that, everything worked fine except that, occasionally, pressing the button will cause the mouse not to move for a very short time (half a second, or so) and the recover. Brian P.S. You OS9UG guys need to post a cross-reference of your names. It would help solve some of the confustion. Thanx again... -*- 30198 17-JUN 02:13 General Information SDir From: BRIANWHITE To: ZACKSESSIONS Zack, sorry to say, but I noticed a small bug in your new SDir command. - If the user number of the file is greater than 999 then it is not displayed correctly. It still starts in column #2 (instead of 1) and offsets the rest of the line by 1 char. There's always one more bug... Keep up the good work. SDir is a useful utility! Brian -*- 30202 17-JUN 10:59 General Information RE: SDir (Re: Msg 30198) From: ZACKSESSIONS To: BRIANWHITE (NR) That's not a bug, it's a feature! Seriously, I made an assumption that the value in the owner field would never be larger than 999. Maybe a patch is in order! Zack -*- End of Thread. -*- 30199 17-JUN 02:14 General Information Alias From: BRIANWHITE To: TIMKOONCE Fun isn't it. I wrote a program to create data modules for storeing graphics screens. It involved the same type thing. Learned a lot from it. Brian -*- 30203 17-JUN 11:05 General Information USING MASTERING SAT ON COCO3 From: PACRUISER To: ALL DOES ANYONE KNOW A PATCH, ETC. THAT CAN BE USED TO RUN THE "MASTERING THE SAT" PROGRAM WHICH RADIO SHACK HAD FOR OS9 LEVEL 1 SO THAT IT CAN BE USED ON THE COCO3 WITH THE OS9 LEVEL TWO OPERATION SYSTEM? THE PROGRAM IS A GOOD SAT PREP FOR STUDENTS BUT I'D LIKE TO RUN IT ON A COCO3. ANYONE KNOW THE CORRECT PROCEDURE - IF IT CAN BE DONE? THANKS!!! PACRUISER -*- FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit>