HEYHEYHEYHEYHEYHEYHEYHEYHEYHEYHEY HEYHEYhey, hey, hey, it's ATI!HEY HEYHEYHEYHEYHEYHEYHEYHEYHEYHEYHEY issue 48 A continuation of ATI47.. **** ******** ******** ****** ******** ******** ** ** ** ** ******** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ******** ** ** ** ******** c i n t m c i e . v s i , s t Write to us: Activist Times, Inc. P.O. Box 2501 Bloomfield, NJ 07003 Let's get right back to it! ;) -----------------------------------> the roving eavesdropper ------------> As stated in the past, The Roving Eavesdropper is an occasional column we present to you here at ATI to describe reality, or, other unusual aspects of existence that you might not normally encounter. In this column, we bring you a ragging session from a Commodore 64 "warez" BBS. Enjoy! BAT LOSERS Post the Names of the BIGGEST Losers you know.. Bat Losers > #62 - bat losers Who: OZZY (#19) Day: THURS., 1/11 3:53 pm Why: The Groover This dudes an Asshole he thinks he can come on a board and pass judgement like he7s God or somethin'!!!!!! later the ozz > #65 - bat losers Who: THE GROOVER (#57) Day: FRI., 1/12 10:11 pm Why: Ozzy PASS JUDGEMENT ON WHAT? I said I like T-Rex. Big fuckin' deal. What, you had a homosexual experience with Marc Bolan or something? And nice handle. I wish I'd thought to name myself after a strung out old loser metal garbage man like Ozzy Osbourne. Somebody please, take out the trash. (Why don't we all just listen to the beatles like back in '68?) > #66 - bat losers Who: THE MAD MIDGET (#1) Day: SAT., 1/13 6:28 pm Why: back in 68? you were still in yer fathers nutsack back in 68... > #67 - bat losers Who: SUG! (#28) Day: SAT., 1/13 7:48 pm Why: i see a fight coming! another one will bite the dust. sug! > #68 - bat losers Who: OZZY (#19) Day: SUN., 1/14 12:35 am Why: GRovER Are you nuts!!!!!!! I wish you were back in 68 so you can take some brown acid and die on a bad trip!!!!! T.Rex HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you have the balls to say such a thing!!!!!!!!! Tribute a double live $14.00 album went platnum in 8 days!!! T.Rex ever go platnum......didn't think so!!!!!!!!! Go Fuck a hole in the Wall!!! > #69 - bat losers Who: THE GROOVER (#57) Day: SUN., 1/14 2:13 pm Why: (grin) Ever hear of 'Electric Warrior'? Platinum about 9x over, dick. tG > #70 - bat losers Who: OZZY (#19) Day: SUN., 1/14 4:57 pm Why: (laughing) over a ten year period world wide! you fuckin peace of dog shit that someone stepped in. > #71 - bat losers Who: THE CREEP (#3) Day: WED., 1/17 6:44 pm Why: not to mention scraped off! Ill tell you why we all dont go an listen to the beatles in 68' groovie, its because were in 1990!! you shit faced limp dick! Creep > #72 - bat losers Who: THE GROOVER (#57) Day: THURS., 1/18 2:12 pm Why: HAHAHAHA okay... Pump up the jam pump it up while... is this better, ya fug'n bunch of guido/metalhead/fuckin' geeks! What're ya gonna do now, ask mommy for a 2400 baud modem so you can shut me out? I SHALL NOT GO QUIETLY Fuck you all (my buffer sez hi) THEMUTHERFUKKINGROOVER > #73 - bat losers Who: THE CREEP (#3) Day: THURS., 1/18 3:11 pm Why: hahaha ooh boy groovie you really got a way with words dontcha, your probably one a those fuckin bushy haired pot heads who listens to freedom rock all the damn day.... right MAN? bahahaha what a loser! take your dad's balls outta your ass and see the light shithead. > #74 - bat losers Who: THE MAD MIDGET (#1) Day: THURS., 1/18 6:36 pm Why: he signed his handle the mother fucking groover? please dont bring yer house activities to this bbs .. good for you that you punmp yer mother.. please just dont let us normal people know about yer sexual activities with yer mother. PUMP UP THE JAM? more like PUMP UP MOM! pump her up YOH PUMP HER! isnt that what you and yer brother sing when yer alone with yer hairy mom? > #75 - bat losers Who: OZZY (#19) Day: THURS., 1/18 10:51 pm Why: GROOVER now you shouldn't make fun of Groover because when he was 11 he walked into his parents room while they had sex and he decided to start to pull his pudd he like it SOOOOO MUCH that he began to Pull His DAD'S!!! (groover loves slippin old grandma the tounge when she kisses him) > #76 - bat losers Who: XYNAMAX (#35) Day: SUN., 1/28 12:53 pm Why: Batlooser Ya want a bat loser? GROOVER! >< (Taken from The Batcave BBS... 201-779-3924) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- +- Now, for some miscellaneous stuff from The Mentor's old BBS, The Phoenix Project...I hope you enjoy this blast from the past! Taken from The National Enquirer, June 11, 1985 edition, p.28 'BEWARE- Computer Crooks Can Phone Long Distance - At Your Expense' Watch out! Crooks are using computers to steal long-distance phone service code numbers- and if you use a long-distance service, check your phone bills carefully. "It's absolutely frightening," declared John Maxfield, an expert who works for private industry tracking down computerized thieves. There are millions of Americans who subscribe to long-distance phone services- such as Sprint, MCI, Teltec for Transcall America. Subscribers are given a personal code number, which they dial to gain access to the computer that makes the long-distance calls. An ENQUIRER investigation has turned up some shocking examples of what can happen when a crook discovers your long-distance code number: o A New York woman was stunned to open her phone bill and find it totalled $175,000. Her access number had been traded among several thieves. o Prisoners at Atlanta's Fulton County Jail bought someone's Transcall America number- and ran up a whopping bill of more than $12,000 before they were discovered. o A Florida woman received a $175 phone bill listing dozens of long- distance calls- and after protesting, she learned that her Teltec number had been stolen and sold to a jail inmate. Many thieves discover valid long-distance codes by programming their computers to find sets of numbers that work, explained Donn Parker, an expert on computerized crooks who works for a California research and consulting firm. "A kid can turn on his computer before he goes to school in the morning and run it all day long. "He comes home- and there on the printer is a list of valid numbers that the computer has turned out." Incredibly, it's practically impossible to stop these thieves, the experts agree- and about the only way you can protect yourself is to go over your phone bills with a fine-tooth comb. "The customer should report any suspicions they have," said Joe Rudd, former security chief for Transcall America. "Otherwise you may end up holding the bag on a big phone bill, because in many states, a telephone company is not responsible after 30 days. "If we establish that a code has been stolen and calls made by a crook, we'll give the customer credit." -David Wright Discussion Questions: 1) Has anyone ever heard of Transcall America? Or how about Teltec? 2) Why does the Enquirer rely on the words "Expert","crook" and "thieves" so much? 3) Since when do inmates use access codes? 4) Have you ever "Turned on your computer in the morning" and run it all day long? 5) Why do they ask the FORMER security chief of Transcall America? (I'll answer that one, nobody else wanted to talk to them!) 6) How the fuck could anybody ever run up $175,000 phone bill in a 30 day billing period? 7) Do you 'program' your computer to find 'sets' of numbers? I personally just type "BRUN CAT HACKER 3.71" Recommendations: 1) Hack Transcall America and Teltec. Since nobody has ever heard of them, they will be poor and they can't afford a tracing system. 2) Assume that all ENQUIRER sources are a little 4'2" old lady in the corner of their office building. 3) Enquirer investigations are trash. 4) the Enquirer is trash. 5) They should be sued for telling the entire reading population how to hack numbers. Please Distribute. >>Racal Vadic<< ............................................................................ 89/100: virus writers Name: Gordon Meyer #57 Date: 4:48 pm Sun Nov 06, 1988 Watching CNN on Friday I noticed that they somehow decieded this national UNIX virus was the work of the hackers (shudder,gasp). Wonder if they gave a second thought to pointing fingers after they found out it was some "bored grad student" that released it? -=->G<-=- 90/100: The media Name: Lord North #197 Date: 1:11 pm Mon Nov 07, 1988 don't ever make any distinction. 91/100: ... Name: Epsilon #12 Date: 2:40 pm Mon Nov 07, 1988 Whenever the slightest little thing happens involving computer security, or the breach thereof, the media goes fucking bat shit and points all their fingers at us 'nasty hackers'. They're so damned ignorant it's sick. And that radio show. That guy was a fucking moronic fool. How dare he make stereotypes of hackers, and say we're all a bunch of geeks who lack physical and social exposure because we're always in our rooms. Fine, if he wants to play with stereotypes, we can just say that he's a bored, middle-aged, undersexed pervert who watches porno flicks while his fat wife is asleep, and takes out his sexual aggression on children. It's so amazing. And they wonder why certain individuals resort to pulling their credit and harassing the shit out of them. They deserve it. Epsilon 92/100: Notice... Name: The Prophet #91 Date: 12:04 pm Tue Nov 08, 1988 How sympathetic the media was with the culprit after it was discovered that he was a bored Cornell grad and the son of a respected scientist. -TP LOD/H 93/100: Hackers Ethichs Name: Red Knight #48 Date: 3:58 pm Tue Nov 08, 1988 Two days ago I was on CIS. There while in one of the band.I saw this alias Mr. Hacker(USA)...I couldn't resist but to ask him "Why the handle like that" And basically we started talking about all and how it start.Then we proceeded on to boards.He told me that he was a part of sherwood forest 2,3. But refused to tell me his real handle. Anyway some jerk out of nowhere while we were talking about systems intereptedus and started giving us the third degree.I tried to as much as I could to tell him that Hackers were actaully not bad people but are only trying to educate themselves.He was not even ready to listen our side of the story, but said that Hackers were just a bunch of nonsense people trying to reck systems etc.This really got me PISSED off.And soon I was getting in the mood for the offensive side. But later on as the conversation proceed (Negatively) three other people got into it.They were completly opposed to us.I could feel it that we were out numbered but we still stood but their ignorance never allowed them to understand what we were trying to say. So we just decided to bag it and let the jerks say what they want and decided to go (/TALK). Mr. Hacker(USA) turned out be quite knowledgeable and new alot about Computer Security and also inside out about DMS100. Never knew who this person was.Anybody have a clue? Anyway what I am also trying to say is that SAVANT hackers who go around destroying systems they Hack is totaly pathetic and has given a bad name to the so called "Educational Hackers"..and basically there no way to stop these pigs. One very pissed Red Knight P/HUN TSAN 94/100: media Name: Professor Falken #16 Date: 4:48 pm Tue Nov 08, 1988 As stated in the above posts whenever the media happens upon anything that invloves malicious computer use its the "HACKERS". The word is a catch phrase it makes mom drop the dishes and watch the TV. They use the word becuase not only they don't really know the meaning but they have lack of a word to describe the perpatrator. Thats why hacker has such a bad name, its always associated with evil things and such. Well I thik I agree with Arcane Heirophant it is a nice evil word to describe ourselves. - Falken 95/100: Hackers and media Name: The Mci Sprinter #105 Date: 5:11 pm Tue Nov 08, 1988 I never seen a phreaker called a phreaker when caught and he's printed in the newspaper. You always see them "Hacker caught in telephone fraud". "Hacker defrauds old man with phone calling card".. What someone should do is tell the fucken media to get it straight. -TMS 96/100: They don't want to get it Name: Lord North #197 Date: 1:17 pm Wed Nov 09, 1988 straight, they want catch-phrases to maintain interest and sell copy. 97/100: names Name: Mr. Icom #205 Date: 9:14 pm Wed Nov 09, 1988 Certain security publications use the term "Computer Phreak" to indicate a person who "penetrates" computer systems. Their reasoning is that Hacker means a knowledgible computer user, and doesn't imply illegal usage, while a phreak is someone who illegaly uses the phone system. (sic). Personally I think it's a bunch of bullshit, and why not use the term "hacker", it does have a nice sinister ring to it. 98/100: HUMPH! Name: Doc Cypher #155 Date: 9:33 pm Wed Nov 09, 1988 I dont think you seem to notice half of the misconceptions being taken out on the 'Electronic Underground'.. I read in a paper last year about a man who sold children and made a diary about the sexual encounters he had with the children and put it on disk... Got busted, and the headline, NO SHIT, was : 'Child Pervert Hacker Arrested in Florida case'... If people would try to clear up the misconceptions with some of these officials, possibly our name wouldn't get thrown around so much... Doctor Cypher be - ell - co -ree 99/100: The Child Pervert Hacker Name: The Prophet #91 Date: 9:17 am Thu Nov 10, 1988 That enormous misconception was used by one particularly ambitious politician as a vote-grabber a few years back. He wanted to place BBS's under _very_strict_ federal control to prevent pedophiles from keeping on-line databases of easy victims. Ridiculous, but many people bought that bullshit. By the way, good old John Maxfield of Boardscan, Inc., was once arrested (and convicted!) of child molestion. -TP 100/100: wheee... Name: The Mentor #1 Date: 9:07 pm Thu Nov 10, 1988 Well, this is a first... in addition to scads of security personel, we now have someone's Mom on... Actually, that worries me more than anything... all I need is for some parent to freak out and begin a massive campaign to get me in trouble. Anyway, I gave her access. We'll see how it goes. I'm holding my breath... let's hope her offspring has enough sense not to try and make TNT in the kitchen or any of the other boneheaded things that some of the early Phracks recommended doing... The Mentor