The F I D O N E W S Volume 19, Number 28 15 Jul 2002 +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ | |The newsletter of the | | Fido, Fidonet and dog-with-diskette are | | | FidoNet community. | | US Registered Trademarks of Tom Jennings| | | | | San Francisco, California, USA | | | ____________| | | | | / __ | Crash netmail articles to: | | | / / \ | Editor @ 2:2/2 (+46-31-944907) | | | WOOF! ( /|oo \ | Routed netmail articles to: | | \_______\(_| /_) | Bjorn Felten @ 2:203/0 | | _ @/_ \ _ | Email attach to: | | | | \ \\ | bfelten@telia.com | | | (*) | \ ))| | | |__U__| / \// | Editor: Bj”rn Felten | | ______ _//|| _\ / | | | / Fido \ (_/(_|(____/ | Newspapers should have no friends. | | (________) (jm) | -- JOSEPH PULITZER | +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ Copyright 2002 by Fidonews Editor for Fidonews Globally. Table of Contents 1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT ......................................... 1 2. INSIDE ................................................... 2 The Fidonews at a Glance ................................. 2 3. REBUTTALS TO PREVIOUS ARTICLES ........................... 3 Framed in cyberspace by the FBI. A follow up ............. 3 4. GETTING FIDONET TECHNICAL ................................ 7 Optimizing modem connections on poor telephone lines ..... 7 5. FIDONET'S INTERNATIONAL KITCHEN .......................... 9 Carol's Gizzard Soup ..................................... 9 6. CLEAN HUMOUR & JOKES ..................................... 10 OBSERVATIONS ON AN OLDER WOMAN ........................... 10 7. TODD COCHRANE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ................. 12 Fidonet Software List .................................... 12 8. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 16 Fidonet-related Sites .................................... 16 9. SPECIAL INTEREST ......................................... 21 Nodelist Stats ........................................... 21 10. FIDONEWS INFORMATION .................................... 23 How to Submit an Article ................................. 23 Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability .................. 25 FIDONEWS 19-28 Page 1 15 Jul 2002 ================================================================= FOOD FOR THOUGHT ================================================================= "Always acknowledge a fault frankly. This will throw those in authority off guard and allow you opportunity to commit more." -- Mark Twain ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-28 Page 2 15 Jul 2002 ================================================================= INSIDE ================================================================= The Fidonews at a Glance No Confessions left and no Catcalls this week, but Michiel sent in his follow-up, as promised in the FIDONEWS echo, on that Dutch kid that was framed by the FBI; a rebuttal to Luke's article last week in "Framed in cyberspace by the FBI. A follow up.". Petko Bossakov goes fido technical in "Optimizing modem connections on poor telephone lines". Much of it may seem elementary and obvious to those of us that's been around fidonet for many years, but remember it wasn't always that way for us. I think it's a good initiative by Petko, to take up things for those that haven't years of fido experience. Todays dish in our international kitchen is "Carol's Gizzard Soup". I hope it tastes better than it sounds. :) A thin issue, once again this week. All we have left now, is a joke from our old jokemaker, Warren Bonner. This week's joke is about a real male chauvinist pig, it's "Observations on an Older Woman". ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-28 Page 3 15 Jul 2002 ================================================================= REBUTTALS TO PREVIOUS ARTICLES ================================================================= Framed in cyberspace by the FBI. A follow up. By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555 It was with mild surprise and mixed feelings that I took notice of Luke Kolin's comment on my previous article. Pleasant surprise because at least I attracted someone's attention. Less pleasant because his display of total lack of understanding of the point of view of Menno B's countrymen. He can not resist laughing he says. I wonder if he'd still be laughing if the shoe were on the other foot. More about that later. Luke Kolin has a daughter he says. Well, so have I. She has a child of her own now, so I need not worry about her virginity any more. But there was a time she was fourteen too. When she was I didn't round up a posse to ward off potential attackers of said virginity. That's a lost cause anyway. Who wants his daughter to be a non? No, I subsided to the inevitable and educated her on contraceptives and sexually transmitted diseases. That is what responsible parents do. They guide their children into life rather than shield them from it. Luke Kolin is happy to see the FBI working to stop individuals to take sexual advantage of children he says. One may wonder who is taking sexual advantage of whom. As I see it it is the FBI taking advantage of Menno B's hormone flow. He then drifts into a scenario that assumes the girl really existed. Ok, let's play along and assume for a while. Menno B. would have had the shit beaten out of him by the father of the girl he says. Perhaps even be shot. Really? Do US fathers all suffer from tunnel vision? Should the father not have educated his daughter about the perils of engaging in contact via the InterNet rather then try to amend his own shortcomings in the area of parental guidance with a shotgun? With a father like that the couple would have been wise to let the girl come to The Netherlands instead. Safely out of reach of both the father, his posse and the FBI. Let's consider that alternative for a moment. Would there have been a conviction if it hadn't stopped at the intention and the boy and the girl eventually had sex? Extremely unlikely. Only a desperate overzealous police man unable to find a real crime would go for it. If it ever came to court the judge would most likely reason that, if the girl - after having exchanged all the sexually tainted massages - goes through the trouble to meet the boy across a continent, she obviously consents. The fact that she is a mere two years under the age of consent would have been written off as a technicality. You see we do not consider sex with a fourteen year old such a big deal. /If/ there is full consent. As a matter of fact about a decade ago there was a proposal to reduce the age of consent to twelve. It didn't make it, but there was considerable support. With a consenting fourteen year old? Yes, technically it is against the law but I'd say it is not considered any worse than a parking violation. Nobody goes to jail for a parking ticket. Not in a civilized country. FIDONEWS 19-28 Page 4 15 Jul 2002 Not in my country. Yes, the idea of a fourteen year old girl having sex can be pretty unsettling for the father. My daughter is thirty two now. It's eighteen years ago that she was fourteen. But I haven't forgotten. How can one forget? It sure stirred up some emotions when my daughter was that age and the cloud of ferromones started to build up around our house. Yes, I was upset when the young men (kids?) with their motor cycles began to assemble on the street in front of my house. I admit to having once send my German sheepdog into the crowd after severe provocation. (And recalling him half way.) After that incident I started using my brain instead of my genes to handle the situation and I realized one can not successfully oppose nature. Guarding one's daughter's virginity with dogs, guns and chastity belts isn't the answer. Back to the assumption: the girl really existed and came to The Netherlands. In the unlikely event any of the parents would have attempted to solve the problem the way the girl's father would have according to Luke Kolin, surely they would have gone to jail for it if it happened in the Netherlands. It is against the law here to molest would be sons in law. And that law is enforced. No, the judicial system here does not make use of a jury. Sure, laws are different in different countries. What is legal here may not be over there and vice versa. I accept one can go to jail for having sex with a fourteen year old girl if one does it within the jurisdiction of the USA. But there was no sex and never could have been; the girl didn't exist. Menno B. was arrested for having the INTENT to have sex. Ludicrous as I find it, I may even be able to accept that intent to have sex with a minor can be punishable as well. In the USA. I have some trouble with it and I wonder how it can ever be enforced. Most of the male population would be in jail if it really were enforced. Did you, mr Kolin never, ever have naughty thoughts when seeing a particularly attractive scarcely clothed young women on the beach? A woman that happened to be just a teeny weeny bit under the age of consent? Can you honestly say that you never had any such thoughts? Never had any intent? Not even when you yourself were just over the age of consent? I don't believe it. Not if you are a healthy heterosexual male. Such a law is ridiculous and impossible to enforce without thought police. But.... if that is the law, that is the law. In the USA that is. Intent to have sex with a minor is a crime in the USA. Even the FBI can not read minds however, so they have to go on what behaviour is displayed by the alleged offender. Consider how the intent, if any, was displayed. Presumably in the messages exchanged via the InterNet. If Menno B. displayed any intent to have sex, he displayed it right here in The Netherlands. Over here intent to have sex is not against the law. Minor or not. Intent to whatever is not against the law here. Murder, rape or theft, one can not be convicted if one has kept it to intent. One can be arrested and convicted for attempted murder, not for INTENT. Did Menno B. display intent to have sex with a minor? Perhaps. Did he display this intent while under US jurisdiction? No he did not. The FIDONEWS 19-28 Page 5 15 Jul 2002 messages were written here in The Netherlands. All he did in the US was disembark from am aircraft. Did Menno B. still have the intent when he stepped from the plane? He says not and by the lack of competent mind readers, all we can say is that we do not know. Not to know means no proof and no proof means not guilty. Innocent until proven guilty. That's what the USA claims is one of the values they defend. I wonder how Luke Kolin would feel if the situation were reversed. Guns are legal in some parts of the USA he says. Here they are not. Suppose Luke Kolin has a son. Suppose the son likes guns. Suppose he would be approached via the InterNet by someone claiming to have a special gun for sale. To arrange the sale he would have to come meet the man in the Netherlands. How would Luke Kolin feel if his son was - when stepping from the plane - arrested, tried and convicted for intent to carry a concealed weapon? While the gun never existed and the man posing as the seller was a policeman in disguise? Would Luke Kolin still be laughing? Would he really be satisfied with his son being framed and going to prison for a couple of years for the intent to commit a crime that doesn't even exist in his own country? I very much doubt it. (And I might add that Dutch prisons are like the Hilton when compared to American prisons; being on the receiving end of a sexual predator's advances that seems to be the norm in US prisons according to Luke, is virtually unheard of here) But we will never know if Luke Kolin would have kept on laughing because it can not happen. Intent to carry a gun isn't a crime here and even if it were, our police doesn't provoke crimes. It's against our laws for the authorities to provoke a crime because we consider that unethical. Luke Kolin is happy the FBI is doing it's job of crime prevention. Did they? Prevent that is? Not as I see it. What I see is that a crime was fabricated instead of prevented. Luke says the US has the right to enforce it's laws on their own soil. Yes they have, I grant that. They do however not have the right to enforce their laws on the soil of another country. That is what happened you know. They provoked a citizen of another country while he was not on US soil to send messages with a sexually tinted nature to what he thought was a fourteen year old girl. Intent to have sex with a minor they say. Menno B. was right here in The Netherlands when the evidence concerning the intent was gathered. The US have enforced their laws upon someone residing on Dutch soil. Menno B. a deplorable criminal pervert? No more than Luke Kolin's son dreaming about carrying a gun. Menno B. may have several shortcomings. Naivety being one of them. In most likelihood he also was lonely and lacked sex appeal. Why else couldn't he find a girl over here? But a criminal and a pervert? Nah, he was just a lonely misguided kid framed by the FBI. Because that what is was: framed. He would not have come FIDONEWS 19-28 Page 6 15 Jul 2002 to the USA had the FBI not have an officer pose as a willing fourteen year old girl to lure him into the trap. Luke says I shouldn't be surprised when I get arrested in Saudi Arabia if I respond to an invitation to a keg party. Whatever that is: a keg party. Maybe, maybe not. I would be surprised however if the invitation turned out to have been send by the Saudi police posing as the keg party organiser. As far as I know the Saudi police, unlike the FBI, does not manufacture it's own crimes. Suppose it happened anyway. Does that make right what the FBI did wrong? No of course not. Two wrongs don't make a right. And wrong it is. Using crime prevention methods that are not approved in another country against citizens of that country while they are outside the crime preventer's jurisdiction is wrong. It is wrong, it is unethical, it is arrogant and it is an infringement upon the rights of a sovereign nation. No, I am not defending a criminal child abuser. I would not defend Menno B. if he indeed would be a child abuser. I do not condone child abuse. But there is no abuse. Where is the abused child? I am defending a somewhat naive fellow countryman that was lured into a trap set by the law upholders of a nation that has the arrogance to enforce it's small minded standards upon citizens of another state. Menno B. was framed. Period. If the people of the USA feel it is all right to use these "crime prevention" methods on US citizens, on their own soil, that is their choice. But there it should end. They should leave the policing of other country's citizens on other country's soil to that other country's police. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-28 Page 7 15 Jul 2002 ================================================================= GETTING FIDONET TECHNICAL ================================================================= Optimizing modem connections on poor telephone lines Petko Bossakov, 2:535/1 In my country, and probably in various other Fidonet regions (particularly R50, to the best of my knowledge), the phone network is extremely antiquated. Most of the exchanges used are still based on analog selectors, as were the first automatic exchanges ever. In the developed countries, and especially in the USA, this technology is now nothing more than an object of hobbyist interest, with virtually no practical value in telephony. Add this to the old, low-quality cables, and you get a tremendous amount of line noise. Modems were simply not made for such conditions, and their default settings are usually not adequate to poor phone lines. Probably most sysops living in such regions have applied various workarounds, but the others, as well as most BBS callers, maybe do not know that some tweaking here and there can actually improve the quality of the connection, increasing its reliability and transfer rates. INCREASING THE CARRIER LOSS TIME ================================ If line noise occurs, the modems may lose contact. They, however, try to restore the connection for some time before hanging up. This time interval can be configured, and its default is usually between one and two seconds. It is a good idea to increase it, as this will basically increase the modem's tolerance to line noise. The waiting time is stored in the modem's S10 register in the form of 1/10ths of a second. To increase it, just add "ATS10=250" to the initialization string in the corresponding software. Just a quick note: in Windows you can locate the init string by going to the Connection tab of the modem's configuration dialog and clicking on the "Advanced" button. The init string is actually that "extra settings" text field. LOCKING THE DTE RATE ==================== This is a way to improve the throughput on both bad and good phone lines. Often the maximum computer-to-modem (DTE) communication speed can be higher than the modem-to-modem (DCE) speed. In that case, upon connection the DTE rate is lowered to match the DCE rate. However, you may "lock" the COM port so that the DTE rate will always maintain a set rate. Why would you want to do that? Although it cannot increase the connection's bps rate, it will improve the effectivity of the modem's internal data compression algorithms, thus improving the transfer speed for highly compressible data, like text. A locked speed too high can cause buffer overruns, but the standard serial interface's maximum FIDONEWS 19-28 Page 8 15 Jul 2002 of 115200 bps will do fine for most high-speed modems (33.6 kbps and above). For 14.4 modems a rate of 57600 is suitable. You may check with your communication software's documentation to see how exactly you can lock the com port rate. If you use a FOSSIL driver, you'll have to adjust its configuration as well. HARDWARE SOLUTIONS ================== The software settings can improve your connection, but they will rarely compensate for a low-quality modem. It is a better idea to buy a more expensive modem; this will pay off, as it will cost you less in phone bill terms. Over here the phone company has issued limitations on the length of the phone cable between the wall socket and your equipment. Although nobody appears to follow them, a shorter cable can actually decrease the interference. If the cable is properly connected, and does not run next to interference-causing equipment (microwaves, TV cables, etc.) your connection may actually be a bit better. Finally, there is equipment to isolate and prevent line noise. If you can find a spike protector, attach it to the phone line. This is the best you can do besides connecting to a digital telephone exchange. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-28 Page 9 15 Jul 2002 ================================================================= FIDONET'S INTERNATIONAL KITCHEN ================================================================= Carol's Gizzard Soup Yield: 4 Servings 1 ea Set of gizzards from chicken 1 1/2 c Water 1 ts Cumin 1 ts Salt 1 ts Pepper 1 Dash tobasco Ok, what to do with them gizzards ya got stowed away from all them chickens ya cooked? This one is flexible. I showed cumin this time, but chinese 5 spice, or just about anything else will do. Ok, oregano would be awful but you hopefully have the idea! Remove the skin and as much fat as easily done then: Toss it in the pot and boil it for 2 hours on low simmer. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-28 Page 10 15 Jul 2002 ================================================================= CLEAN HUMOUR & JOKES ================================================================= OBSERVATIONS ON AN OLDER WOMAN passed on by wdbonner@pacbell.net It is important for men to remember that as women grow older it becomes harder for them to maintain the same quality of housekeeping as they did when they were younger. When men notice this, they should try not to yell. Let me relate how I handle the situation.... When I chucked my job and took early retirement a year ago, it became necessary for my Wife to get a full-time job, both for extra income and for health insurance benefits that we need. She was a trained lab tech when we met thirty some years ago and was fortunate to land a job at the local medical center as a phlebotomist. It was shortly after she started working at this job that I noticed that she was beginning to show her age. I usually get home from fishing or hunting about the same time she gets home from work. Although she knows how hungry I am, she almost always says that she has to rest for half an hour or so before she starts supper. I try not to yell at her when this happens. Instead, I tell her to take her time. I understand that she is not as young as she used to be. I just tell her to wake me when she finally does get supper on the table. She used to wash and dry the dishes as soon as we finished eating. It is now not unusual for them to sit on the table for several hours after supper. I do what I can by reminding her several times each evening that they aren't cleaning themselves. I know she appreciates this, as it does seem to help her get them done before she goes to bed. Our washer and dryer are in the basement. When she was younger, my Wife used to be able to go up and down the stairs all day and not get tired. Now that she is older and gets tired so much more quickly. Sometimes she says she just can't make another trip down those steps. I don't make a big issue of this. As long as she finishes up the laundry the next evening I am willing to overlook it. Not only that, but unless I need something ironed to wear to Monday's lodge meeting or to Wednesday's or Saturday's poker club or to Tuesday's or Thursday's bowling or something like that, I will tell her to wait until the next evening to do the ironing. This gives her a little more time to do some of those odds and ends things like shampooing the dog, vacuuming, or dusting. Also, if I have had a really good day fishing, this allows her to gut and scale the fish at a more leisurely pace. She is starting to complain a little occasionally. Not often, mind you, but just enough for me to notice. For example, she will say that it is difficult for her to find time to pay the monthly bills during her lunch hour. In spite of her complaining, I continue to try to offer encouragement. I tell her to stretch it out over two or even three days. That way she won't have to rush so much. I also remind FIDONEWS 19-28 Page 11 15 Jul 2002 her that missing lunch completely now and then wouldn't hurt her any, if you know what I mean. When doing simple jobs she seems to think she needs more rest periods than she used to have to take. A couple of weeks ago she said she had to take a break when she was only half finished mowing the yard. I overlook comments like these because I realize it is just age talking. In fact, I try not to embarrass her when she needs these little extra rest breaks. I tell her to fix herself a nice, big, cold glass of freshly squeezed lemonade and just sit for a while. I tell her that as long as she is making one for herself, she may as well make one for me and take her break by the hammock so she can talk with me until I fall asleep. I could go on and on, but know that I probably look like a saint in the way I support my Wife on a daily basis. I'm not saying that the ability to show this much consideration is easy. Many men will find it difficult. Some will find it impossible. No one knows better than I do how frustrating women can become as they get older. My purpose in writing this is simply to suggest that you make the effort. I realize that achieving the exemplary level of showing consideration I have attained is out of reach for the average man. However guys, even if you just yell at your wife a little less often because of this article, I will consider that writing it was worthwhile. -End- PS: The Author is currently in the Federal Witness Protection Program, I am told. ;^) ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-28 Page 12 15 Jul 2002 ================================================================= TODD COCHRANE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ================================================================= Fidonet Software List By Todd Cochrane Type: B=BBS D=Door M=Mailer T=Tosser C=Communication (terminal) U=Utility P=Point Software I=Internet (telnet, BinkP...) <+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=+=-=-+-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+> ( Software Name ) |Type| ( Author/Contact ) <+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=|=-=-|-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+> |BBBS Home Page |B | b@bbbs.net | | | | www.bbbs.net/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |ELEBBS The 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UUE TX FTP| ??? | n/c 218/109 | Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE,TX | 33.6k | n/c 220/10 | groberts|nexusbbs.net |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c 229/1 | Phil Simpson | BinkP UUE FTP | ??? | n/c 229/2000 | Robert Couture |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ??? | 229/622 | Dave Hamilton | BinkP | ??? | n/c 250/98 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c 250/99 | Brent McLaren | FTP BinkP | ??? | n/c 250/102 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 267/169 | Philip Lozier | FTP TX | ??? | n/c 261/1380 | Joe Davis | UUE TX | ??? | n/c 275/311 | Shannon Talley|FTP,BinkP,FTP,VMoT,QWK| T1 |n/c 280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo. 297/11 | Michael McCabe | TX | ??? | n/c 323/120 | Craig Healy | VMoT FTP | ??? | n/c 342/3 | Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c 393/48 | Ben Ritchey | UUE:BFDS? | 33.6k | n/c 379/1 | Dale Ross | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c 379/1200 | Chris Cranford | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c 396/45 | Marc Lewis |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ADSL | n/c 2215/300 | Dennis Haddox | UUE,TX | CABLE | n/c 2320/38 | Janis Kracht | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 2410/400 | Gary Gilmore | FTP BinkP | 384K,60| n/c 2410/213 | Kevin Bentz | FTP, BinkP, UUE| Cable | n/c 2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo 2624/306 | David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c 3613/1275 | @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE,FTP | 28.8 | n/c 3407/4 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c 3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c 3830/5 | Jeff Schrunk |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ??? | n/c 3830/9 | Steve Quarrella |BinkP FTP IFCICO VMoT UUE|?|? -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 2 | 20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c 22/222 | Kim Heino | BinkP | ??? | n/c 28/1 | Lody Caenen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c 37/37 | Gabor Z. Papp | BinkP | ??? | n/c 47/999 | Andrej Kirejev | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 53/558 |Vladimir Hrusca|POP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP,ifcico|2mbs|?? 201/329 | Mats Wallin | VMoT TX | ??? | n/c 201/505 | G”ran Eriksson | BinkP | ??? | n/c 201/600 | H†kan Andersson |BinkP,FTP |512kbps| n/c 203/600 | Mikael Karlsson |BinkP,FTP,TX,UUE| 512k | n/c 211/37 | Torbjorn Mohn | BinkP | 8/2mb | n/c 221/360 | Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c 236/205 | Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c 240/6298 | Steve Tell | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c 246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c 252/110 | David Rance | UUE | ??? | n/c 255/90 | Simon Avery | UUE | ??? | n/c 263/950 | Sean Rima | TX UUE | ??? | n/c FIDONEWS 19-28 Page 19 15 Jul 2002 280/1027 | Lukas de Groen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 280/1601 | Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c 280/4312 | Jos Huijnen | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ??? | n/c 280/5003 | Kees van Eeten | BinkP ifcico | ??? | n/c 292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE | 64k | n/c 292/854 | Ward Dossche | BinkP UUE TX | ??? | n/c 292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c 301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c 332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c 333/0 | M Gianformaggio | BinkP | ??? | n/c 335/534 | Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c 335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c 341/14 | Rafael Suarez | BinkP VMoT | ??? | n/c 341/51 | Jose.Maria Tejada | VMoT | | 341/66 | Angel Ripoll | VMoT | | 343/168 | Jose Casanova | VMoT | | 344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c 346/3 | Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c 347/1 | Javi Polo | UUE | | 348/105 | Alejandro Estraviz| BinkP UUE | | 382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 400/555 | Ofir Michaeli | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 400/557 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c 461/256 | Andrew Rutkas | BinkP | ??? | n/c 461/640 | Alex Semenyaka |BinkP ifcico UUE| ??? | n/c 465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c 469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c 469/128 | Oleg Vasenyoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c 550/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | ----- | n/c 2410/201 | Karsten Ebeling | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c 2411/413 | Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c 2432/200 | Sven Dueker | BinkP TX UUE | ??? | n/c 2446/301 | Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c 2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn 2487/3000 | Steffen Gross | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5002/5002 | Victor Belyakov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5014/4 | Alex Bagmanov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5020/52 | Peter Didenko | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/54 | Serge Wizgounoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5020/69 | B Chernivetsky | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/238 | Sergey Gubanov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5030/1251 | K Stepanekov | UUE | ??? | n/c 5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c 5049/12 | Amir Shabashvili | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5054/3 | Andrew Popov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5080/80 | Eugene Zorin | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5083/21 | Alexander Uskov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5090/2 | Andrew Titov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 3 633/260 | Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c FIDONEWS 19-28 Page 20 15 Jul 2002 640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c 712/311 | Bob James | TX | ??? | n/c 774/605 | Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 4 801/161 | Renato Zambon | UUE | 33.6 |n/c 902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 6 65/3000 | Lawrence Fan | UUE | 33600 | free 653/1009 | Maorong Chen | UUE | ??? | free 654/0 | Bin Li | UUE,BinkP | 33600 | free 654/1501 | Lawrence Fan | UUE,BinkP | 28800 | free -- * FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol * VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various) * UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers * BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks * TX = TransX * NFS = Linux Networking * ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer * QWK = Quick Packets/Offline mailer "networking" capable ---------------------------------------------- Fidonet oriented news servers news.fidotel.com (currently offline) news.osirusoft.com news.tardis.net nntp://fido.bitsoft.ro nntp://bbs.bitsoft.ro Fidonet oriented chat rooms. room #fidonet 5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays irc.osirusoft.com (Peers wanted) irc.sinoptix.ro : malay, chinesse, english, #fido, #fidonet, #wwb irc.bitsoft.ro : 6667 russian, english, hebrew, #fido, #wwb irc.tsua.net : 6668 russian, english #fido ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-28 Page 21 15 Jul 2002 ================================================================= SPECIAL INTEREST ================================================================= Nodelist Stats Input nodelist nodelist.193 size 957.3kb date 2002-07-14 The nodelist has 8461 nodes in it and a total of 11022 non-comment entries including 6 zones 62 regions 425 hosts 586 hubs admin overhead 1079 ( 12.75 %) and 866 private nodes 281 nodes down 335 nodes on hold off line overhead 1482 ( 17.52 %) Speed summary: >9600 = 337 ( 3.98 %) 9600 = 7638 ( 90.27 %) (HST = 176 or 2.30 %) (CSP = 1 or 0.01 %) (PEP = 11 or 0.14 %) (MAX = 0 or 0.00 %) (HAY = 0 or 0.00 %) (V32 = 3970 or 51.98 %) (V32B = 498 or 6.52 %) (V34 = 4875 or 63.83 %) (V42 = 3797 or 49.71 %) (V42B = 519 or 6.79 %) 2400 = 92 ( 1.09 %) 1200 = 7 ( 0.08 %) 300 = 387 ( 4.57 %) ISDN = 986 ( 11.65 %) ---------------------------------------------------------- File Req Flag Applicable software Number of systems ---------------------------------------------------------- XA Frontdoor <1.99b 3216 Frontdoor 2.02+ Dutchie 2.90c Binkleyterm >2.1 D'Bridge <1.3 TIMS Xenia -------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-28 Page 22 15 Jul 2002 XB Binkleyterm 2.0 8 Dutchie 2.90b -------------------------------------- XC Opus 1.1 10 -------------------------------------- XP Seadog 6 -------------------------------------- XR Opus 1.03 56 -------------------------------------- XW Fido >12M 368 Tabby KittenMail -------------------------------------- XX D'Bridge 1.30 3575 Frontdoor 1.99b Intermail 2.01 T-Mail -------------------------------------- None QMM 1222 -------------------------------------- CrashMail capable = 2935 ( 34.69 %) MailOnly nodes = 4353 ( 51.45 %) Listed-only nodes = 604 ( 7.14 %) Other = 569 ( 6.72 %) [Report produced by NETSTATS - A PD pgm available from 1:106/100] [ Revised by B Felten, 2:203/208] ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-28 Page 23 15 Jul 2002 ================================================================= FIDONEWS INFORMATION ================================================================= How to Submit an Article If you wish to submit an article for inclusion in the Fidonews, here are some guidelines, if you send it as an attached file; the preferred method if you want reasonable control over how the published article will appear in the Fidonews: a) Plain ASCII text. 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