CBBS(R) 4.0.3b 12/30/92 01:15:59 You are caller 228415; next msg =45979; 364 active msgs. Prev. call 12/22/92 @ 21:50, next msg was 45971 LOG. 6 KILLED. 62 SUMMARY. 24 12/22/92,21:50:36,228354,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, E#45971,6 12/23/92,09:07:51,228355,2,DENNIS STAHL,, E#45972,5 12/23/92,10:06:58,228356,2,AL HIGGINS,,5 12/23/92,12:09:12,228357,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0 12/23/92,13:53:59,228358,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1 12/23/92,14:36:41,228359,2,PETE JONES,,2 12/23/92,15:38:17,228360,2,BILL FISCHER,,0 12/23/92,21:11:55,228361,2,ED FOSTER,,6 12/23/92,23:16:37,228362,2,CHARLIE KESTNER,,37 ]__I guess when you don't call in for 2 months, you should EXPECT to have to catch up over 100 messages! (I can recall, back in the mid-80's when, if you'd not called for 60 days, you'd be trying to catch up about 1,200 or so...) . (Bad habits die hard...) CHARLIE KESTNER, 12/24/92,00:02:39,228363,2,JAY CROYLE,,3 12/24/92,00:10:08,228364,2,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,,1 12/24/92,00:31:11,228365,1,ALEX ZELL,,7 ]Of course, chaz; we were lucky to be able to log then, with as many as 100 callers a day. Nowadays 25 calls is big. ALEX ZELL, 12/24/92,01:38:27,228366,1,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, 12/24/92,01:44:02,228367,X,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,3 ]Happy Holidays.. off to Wisconsin some time Thurs AM or early PM. Gee, it is getting COLD! WARD CHRISTENSEN, 12/24/92,07:49:45,228368,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1 12/24/92,09:14:21,228369,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0 12/24/92,15:28:34,228370,2,BERNARD GOLDLUST,,1 12/24/92,19:35:40,228371,2,BORIS KUKSO,,5 12/24/92,20:19:53,228372,2,PROP WASH,dg,8 12/24/92,22:58:48,228373,2,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,,3 12/25/92,07:09:16,228374,1,HAMILTON AGPAWA,CHICAGO/IL,9 12/25/92,11:44:48,228375,1,LYNN ANDERSON,,5 12/25/92,12:24:17,228376,2,ANDY SHAPIRO,, E#45973, E#45974,8 12/25/92,15:14:46,228377,2,EDWARD GRINSHPUN,, 12/25/92,15:21:24,228378,2,RICHARD YOO,chicago,6 12/25/92,23:17:34,228379,2,CHRIS SEIDL,itasca/ il,3 12/25/92,23:53:06,228380,2,BILL MATTSON,,1 12/26/92,08:05:10,228381,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,3 12/26/92,13:24:50,228382,1,ELIAS MALLON,NY,4 12/26/92,17:21:13,228383,2,DOUG JOHNSON,chgo/Ill,10 12/26/92,17:33:16,228384,1,ANDY SHAPIRO,,1 12/26/92,23:28:42,228385,2,BERNARD GOLDLUST,,1 12/27/92,00:04:32,228386,1,MARILYN LITT,,2 12/27/92,00:42:30,228387,1,NORB DEMBINSKI,,5 12/27/92,01:50:38,228388,2,DAVID JOHNSON,,1 12/27/92,09:14:04,228389,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,0 12/27/92,09:27:06,228390,1,BOB SULLIVAN,,2 12/27/92,14:01:17,228391,2,RICH KURTZ,,4 12/27/92,19:03:59,228392,2,JAMES SCHMIDT,,1 12/27/92,22:00:36,228393,2,BILL MATTSON,,1 12/28/92,01:23:24,228394,2,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,, E#45975, E#45976,13 12/28/92,07:15:43,228395,2,DENNIS STAHL,,2 12/28/92,08:44:16,228396,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0 12/28/92,11:07:48,228397,2,DAVID GIBBS,,1 12/28/92,13:29:14,228398,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0 12/28/92,13:57:58,228399,2,BENJAMIN COHEN,,5 12/28/92,17:03:05,228400,2,BERNARD GOLDLUST,,1 12/28/92,17:28:50,228401,2,JERRY HASLETT,,13 12/28/92,20:40:19,228402,2,ALEX ZELL,, 12/28/92,21:30:57,228403,1,KEN STOX,,2 ]Happy New Years Everyone!!! KEN STOX, 12/29/92,00:05:36,228404,2,STEVE RYAN,,1 12/29/92,12:25:22,228405,1,KATHY MCCABE,Chicago IL,4 ]I am the associate publisher of Online Access. We are publishing a special edition devoted to BBS and are looking for input from sysops. If you have a BBS list that you would like published or have other ideas, please call me at 312/573-1700. If you can't reach me, please ask for Carol Freer. Thanks. KATHY MCCABE, 12/29/92,12:47:35,228406,2,ROBERT BRANDENBURG,,0 12/29/92,14:14:00,228407,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1 12/29/92,16:52:34,228408,2,BERNARD GOLDLUST,,0 12/29/92,17:46:10,228409,1,STEVE MOYZIS,CHICAGO, >Help: L, >Help: [D, >Help: L, E#45977,21 ]HELP! STEVE MOYZIS, 12/29/92,18:20:52,228410,2,ALEX ZELL,, E#45978,20 ]Oops! I was experimenting as newuser might (and as I did a long time ago to learn this board) and unthinking typed "k" -- followed by "n". Took Steve's pitiful mesg out, of course. Usually, when I want to experiment like a newuser I log in under a different name to make the thing more realistic. Oh, well. The awsome power that little "+" gives us! xxx awesome. Have a nice holiday. I've been trying for a week to get out of here to go to NYC. Mebbe tomorrow. ALEX ZELL, 12/29/92,18:52:39,228411,1,KEN STOX,,1 12/29/92,22:38:26,228412,1,TOMASZ ZIELINSKI,,2 12/30/92,00:08:50,228413,2,DON PIVEN,,3 12/30/92,01:04:20,228414,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,2 12/30/92,01:16:02,228415,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, 45971 12/22/92 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ANDY SHAPIRO: "R/DISK CLEANUP TIP" 45972 12/23/92 DENNIS STAHL => TONY ANTONUCCI: "R/LAPTOPS" 45973 12/25/92 ANDY SHAPIRO => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "R/DISK CLEANUP TIP" 45974 12/25/92 ANDY SHAPIRO => ALL: "MERRY CHRISTMAS" 45975 12/28/92 MICHAEL SHARTIAG => ALL: "LASERJET 4M" 45976 12/28/92 MICHAEL SHARTIAG => ALL: "LINE NOISE FIXED./MA BELL" 45977X 12/29/92 STEVE MOYZIS => SYSOP: "CPM 86/80" 45978 12/29/92 ALEX ZELL => STEVE MOYZIS: "HELP" - End of summary - Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts. Msg 45971 is 18 line(s) on 12/22/92 from WARD CHRISTENSEN to ANDY SHAPIRO re: R/DISK CLEANUP TIP > What if you had two programs with the same name? I don't get it. How could I? I moved ALL my executable utilties down to a \sys\bin\unused, then move 'em back as I need 'em. matter of fact I wrote a little "I.bat" that looks first for a .COM, then a .EXE, then a .BAT, and if finding one, moves it back from .unused to \sys\bin. You say your solution is to use 4DOS's description function - my problem isn't that I don't know what they are - it is that it would be a big process to sort thru 300 executable programs trying to decide which you really use. With my trick, if you try to use it, you have to "bring it back" from the .\unused directory. Actually, I have MEGABYTES to clean up on another system - but it is not a matter of not knowing what it is, it is a matter of trying to decide what to keep. I have a large neough hard disk that I've become a pack rat - I have Turbo C, 1.0, 20, Turbo C+, Borland C+, etc. Actually, the only one I use it Turbo C 2.0, so I'm wondering if I should just "Blow the others away". But then again might be nice to keep 'em around in case I "grow" into C+. Msg 45972 is 01 line(s) on 12/23/92 from DENNIS STAHL to TONY ANTONUCCI re: R/LAPTOPS Thanks Tony, I'll spread the availabilty around. Msg 45973 is 14 line(s) on 12/25/92 from ANDY SHAPIRO to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: R/DISK CLEANUP TIP I meant, "what if you have two files of the same name and you move them (sequentially) to your \sys\bin\unused? For example, what if y had, in different directories, d.com (a GIF file viewer) and d.com (a replacement for DIR)?" The problem would occur in moving files to your 'unused' directory, since the second would overwrite the first, etc. Of course, you may not have this problem! I load many executables via ALIASES, and the aiases sometimes have names different from the commands themselves. In some cases, the directories don't have to be on the path (e.g., for graphics stuff), so I may end up with multiple executable files that share a name. In any event, MERRY CHRISTMAS, Ward! Msg 45974 is 03 line(s) on 12/25/92 from ANDY SHAPIRO to ALL re: MERRY CHRISTMAS and, TO: ALL SUB: A GOOD NIGHT! Msg 45975 is 10 line(s) on 12/28/92 from MICHAEL SHARTIAG to ALL re: LASERJET 4M The Laserjet 4M was in fact held up due to an enginnering hold. The person who I spoke to at HP was wrong on all fronts: The hold was due to HP's desire to get postscript on a single simm thereby giving the printer 3 open simm slots. The prototype unit used 2 simm slots. On the truetype font side: Truetype fonts are scalable; therefore downloadable intot he printer, and the built in ones are also scalable (It took some time, but I answered my own questions). Hope this might help somone else! Msg 45976 is 15 line(s) on 12/28/92 from MICHAEL SHARTIAG to ALL re: LINE NOISE FIXED./MA BELL I received a present from Ma bell on Thursay. They left a message on my answering machine telling me that they had fixed the problem with my 545/777 connections. There was a problem with the return trunk to Highland PArk via the Kedzie (and/or possibly another location) switching station. I have had 100% error free connections since then. Within 1 week of asking for a supervisor with each location (HP and Buffalo Grove) I was able to get an answer other than "we found no problem" and actually get it fixed. If anyone else was having line noise problem and its clear now you were probably feeding back through the above mentioned station. What nailed the problem down was that any call I made to a 545 or 777 prefix modem was a bad line. Msg 45978 is 05 line(s) on 12/29/92 from ALEX ZELL to STEVE MOYZIS re: HELP There is no one here who answers to the label "sysop." Ward Christensen runs this BBS. You are welcome to address him as "Ward." Did you read the Welcome message when you logged on? Did you try typing "h" or "help" or "help keywords" at the prompt. Capture the welcome message ("W" at the prompt) and read it carefully. PROTOCOL: ALT COMPRESSION: NONE CONNECT 2400/ARQ CBBS(R) 4.0.3b 12/30/92 23:10:40 Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U ?^U ?^U ?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss Logging name to disk... You are caller 228432; next msg =45986; 371 active msgs. Prev. call 12/30/92 @ 01:15, next msg was 45979 Recording logon for next time. Use FULL? to check assignments ?^U ?xxxxx "Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^K to a >Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-20 log,ward c;or;*;short LOG. 7 KILLED. 62 SUMMARY. 24 12/30/92,01:16:02,228415,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, E#45979, E#45980, E#45981,10 ]Happy holidaze. Hope santa was good for you. WARD CHRISTENSEN, 12/30/92,07:49:04,228416,2,DENNIS STAHL,,2 12/30/92,11:22:42,228417,1,PETE JONES,,1 12/30/92,11:24:15,228418,2,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,,2 12/30/92,11:43:02,228419,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1 12/30/92,12:53:31,228420,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0 12/30/92,13:01:27,228421,1,DAVID JOHNSON,,2 12/30/92,15:37:24,228422,1,RICH MARQUARDT,SCHAURBURG/IL,3 12/30/92,15:42:37,228423,1,RICH MARQUARDT,, 12/30/92,16:39:21,228424,1,LANE LARRISON,,1 12/30/92,17:29:37,228425,2,BARRY BAYER,,1 12/30/92,18:29:14,228426,2,BERNARD GOLDLUST,,0 12/30/92,19:14:31,228427,1,ANDY SHAPIRO,, E#45982,3 12/30/92,19:36:04,228428,3,MORT MOSS,SKOKIE/IL, E#45983,8 12/30/92,22:08:04,228429,1,KEN STOX,,2 12/30/92,22:21:21,228430,2,BILL MATTSON,,1 12/30/92,22:40:30,228431,2,BILL MATTSON,, E#45984, E#45985,19 12/30/92,23:10:43,228432,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, 45979 12/30/92 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ANDY SHAPIRO: "R/DISK CLEANUP TIP" 45980 12/30/92 WARD CHRISTENSEN => MICHAEL SHARTIAG: "R/LINE NOISE FIXED./MA BELL" 45981 12/30/92 WARD CHRISTENSEN => STEVE MOYZIS: "CPM-86/80" 45982 12/30/92 ANDY SHAPIRO => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "R/DISK CLEANUP TIP" 45983 12/30/92 MORT MOSS => ALL: "SEAGATE DRIVE" 45984 12/30/92 BILL MATTSON => WARD: "MODEM PROBLEMS" 45985 12/30/92 BILL MATTSON => ALL: "MSC 7.0 & IBM C SET/2" - End of summary - Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts. Msg 45979 is 04 line(s) on 12/30/92 from WARD CHRISTENSEN to ANDY SHAPIRO re: R/DISK CLEANUP TIP Ah, I see. But I'm moving only ONE directory to that directory's \unused directory. Thus no naming convention dup problems can occur. Thanks for the explanation. I use aliases a lot, too! Msg 45980 is 06 line(s) on 12/30/92 from WARD CHRISTENSEN to MICHAEL SHARTIAG re: R/LINE NOISE FIXED./MA BELL Hey, congrats on solving the line noise problems! Illibelltelco comes thru! It would be nice to find the exact person who fixed it for you - the way I knew who fixed my problem - and at least phone in a personal "thank you". Phones ARE something we take for granted - like power, energy (gasoline, natural gas), water, toilet paper, etc (grin). Msg 45981 is 08 line(s) on 12/30/92 from WARD CHRISTENSEN to STEVE MOYZIS re: CPM-86/80 Sorry, you left no msg. Please try again. Leave a msg for ALL or for "Ward". CBBS' editor is quite easy - type, backspace to correct, press enter on a blank line to go to the edit sub-menu, from which you can re-type lines, or do a char substitution (/old/new/ type) fixes, etc. Please don't ask me to call. I don't return calls very often. P.S. I've never used CP/M-86, but did of course use a LOT of CP/M-80, and as a matter of fact, this BBS is still running in 8080 code, though admittedly on a PC running a CP/M-80 emulator. Msg 45982 is 03 line(s) on 12/30/92 from ANDY SHAPIRO to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: R/DISK CLEANUP TIP Ward, you mention that you use aliases. Are you using 4DOS? If so, I have a neat .BTM file that sets up the DeskJet.if you're interested. Msg 45983 is 03 line(s) on 12/30/92 from MORT MOSS to ALL re: SEAGATE DRIVE c have two (2) seagate st-251 40meg drive 14mos old i wish to sell please call 708-675-3194 Msg 45984 is 08 line(s) on 12/30/92 from BILL MATTSON to WARD re: MODEM PROBLEMS Ward, have been having problems getting into CBBS recently. Last night and again today. Not Compuserve, Ward Board, NOWAR.just CBBS. Seems to answer OK then either never sync up, or the link is actually made but the parameters aren't right. Changing the comm parameters on my end interactively doesn't seem to help. I get garbage at 2400, 1200, 8, 7, 1, none, odd, even, etc. (I always come in at 2400, 8, 1, & none) Tonight I got in without problems, but when I called back to leave this message I had trouble. Could be my modem, but seems isolated to CBBS??! Msg 45985 is 07 line(s) on 12/30/92 from BILL MATTSON to ALL re: MSC 7.0 & IBM C SET/2 Any body have a handy converter to allow easy correlation of MSC 7.0 window functions to C Set/2? I'm looking for some kind of cross reference between the two from hard copy. Migrating seems to be pretty mysterious some times. Has such a document ever come to light? On a related topic, anybody had any fun chasing undeclared extern's that pop into the error log for C Set/2 compiles/links of migrated code that you thought would compile without a hitch? dup. chars. >Function:?