CBBS(R) 4.0.3b 05/11/92 22:34:43 Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U ?^U ?^U ?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss Logging name to disk... You are caller 226886; next msg =45656; 368 active msgs. Prev. call 05/10/92 @ 23:08, next msg was 45653 Recording logon for next time. Use FULL? to check assignments ?^U ?xxxxx "Mine" command checking for msgs TO >Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-20 log,ward c;or;*;short LOG. 13 KILLED. 134 SUMMARY. 24 05/10/92,23:08:08,226876,1,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, E#45653,7 05/11/92,06:53:28,226877,1,AL HIGGINS,,2 05/11/92,07:02:00,226878,2,SHERMAN KAPLAN,,4 05/11/92,10:16:21,226879,2,PETE JONES,,0 05/11/92,11:42:56,226880,2,BILL WOLFF,, E#45654,3 05/11/92,12:44:54,226881,1,AL HIGGINS,, E#45655,5 05/11/92,13:36:36,226882,2,DENNIS STAHL,,6 05/11/92,14:02:07,226883,2,DONNIE STUHLMAN,,2 05/11/92,17:19:15,226884,1,AL HIGGINS,,1 05/11/92,22:07:19,226885,3,MURRAY ARNOW,,2 05/11/92,22:34:48,226886,1,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, 45653 05/10/92 WARD CHRISTENSEN => BILL WOLFF: "R/IDE INFO" 45654 05/11/92 BILL WOLFF => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "R/IDE INFO" 45655 05/11/92 AL HIGGINS => ALL: "486 UPGRADES" - End of summary - Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts. Msg 45653 is 14 line(s) on 05/10/92 from WARD CHRISTENSEN to BILL WOLFF re: R/IDE INFO Well, I'll open the bidding (on answering your Q's) with a LITTLE bit of info - others will supply the details (grin). Most IDE drives use ZBR - Zone Bit Recording. This means that the number of sectors/track varies! The purpose is like the older Mac floppies: to keep the recording density more constant. Since the inside tracks of a hard disk (or floppy) are "shorter" (in circumference), it makes sense to slow down the clock a bit, and write at the same BIT DENSITY. This means that a format program that builds a traditional WD type controller TRACK in memory then does the track format, won't work. Some IDE drives will be hosed up by a low level format. Some will simply return a response "Done!" when in fact they didn't do anything. AND, a FEW are truly low-level-formattable. I don't have details (I don't know which drives are able to be low- level formatted, etc). Msg 45654 is 01 line(s) on 05/11/92 from BILL WOLFF to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: R/IDE INFO That makes a lot more sense to me! Thanks! Msg 45655 is 06 line(s) on 05/11/92 from AL HIGGINS to ALL re: 486 UPGRADES I'm in the process at looking at 486 motherboard replacements. Does anyone out there have any comments on AIM vs. DTK vs. Micromics or others. If I'm going to spend the $ I would like to make a good choice, and not just a clone maker that makes a motherboard with a 486 chip in it! It appears almost all the boards use AIM bios, and some boards can address 16 MB, some 32 MB and others 64 MB. Any comments?? dup. chars. >Function:?