CBBS(R) 4.0.3b 08/04/89 21:54:43 Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U ?^U ?^U ?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss Logging name to disk... You are caller 207535; next msg =42225; 364 active msgs. Prev. call 08/01/89 @ 11:37, next msg was 42211 Recording logon for next time. Use FULL? to check assignments ?^U ?xxxxx "Mine" command checking fo >Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-30 log,ward c;or;*;short LOG. 8 KILLED. 129 SUMMARY. 24 08/04/89,21:54:47,207535,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, 42211 08/01/89 COLIN SCHROEDER => RICHARD GOZDAL: "R/ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEM" 42212 08/01/89 ED FOSTER => COLIN SCHROEDER: "SOFTWARE UPGRADES" type log,ward c;or;*;short /89,11:37:05,207412,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,4 ]Bye for a couple days. (414) 334-5445. Papa's b'day Wednesday. ---- Log moved to l8907 - would normally let it go a few days but since I'm going out of town for a few days decided to clean it up now. WARD CHRISTENSEN, 08/01/89,11:44:42,207413,X,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, ]PASSWORD WARD CHRISTENSEN,1 08/01/89,11:58:59,207414,1,COLIN SCHROEDER,, E#42211,5 08/01/89,12:22:21,207415,2,RANDY IMAGEN,,8 08/01/89,12:40:35,207416,1,JIM FLANAGAN,,3 08/01/89,13:42:13,207417,2,MARTY LINGG,,0 08/01/89,13:49:14,207418,2,BYRON GOULDING,DOWNERS GROVE,4 ]BYRON GOULDING, 08/01/89,14:18:26,207419,2,ED FOSTER,,2 08/01/89,14:29:01,207420,2,FRANK RISTICK,LOCKPORT, >Help: [MENU,11 08/01/89,14:54:02,207421,2,WERNER LINDER,,1 08/01/89,14:58:22,207422,1,EDGAR COUDAL,,3 08/01/89,15:21:32,207423,1,BOB SULLIVAN,,3 08/01/89,15:30:08,207424,2,ED FOSTER,, E#42212,3 08/01/89,16:17:21,207425,1,BRIAN JOHNSON,Chgo/ill, 08/01/89,16:27:33,207426,1,RICHARD GOZDAL,, E#42213,4 08/01/89,17:01:02,207427,1,DENNIS ROHR,LAAGRANGE, >Help: 16, 08/01/89,18:08:46,207428,2,MICHAEL DAGG,, 08/01/89,20:09:22,207429,2,PHIL JERN,,2 08/01/89,20:22:32,207430,2,DAVID MATHER,,1 08/01/89,20:41:25,207431,3,ART PITKIN,,5 08/01/89,21:20:52,207432,2,ARUN NIYOGI,WHEATON/IL,2 08/01/89,22:20:05,207433,1,DAVE DEPA,chitown,15 08/01/89,22:35:32,207434,3,ART PITKIN,,15 08/01/89,22:51:57,207435,2,BOB VON BORSTEL,,2 08/01/89,22:54:45,207436,1,DENNIS LEONG,,7 08/01/89,23:19:46,207437,2,MIKE ROSE,,8 08/01/89,23:31:43,207438,2,DONALD CROSS,,2 08/02/89,00:11:36,207439,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,1 08/02/89,00:28:10,207440,1,MARK SOWA,,11 08/02/89,01:25:48,207441,2,ROBERT KING,,12 ]ROBERT KING, 08/02/89,02:00:35,207442,3,LGHLU RYULRY,iug:o,5 08/02/89,02:42:30,207443,1,BRIAN NELSON,Hoffman Estates/ IL,23 08/02/89,05:28:37,207444,2,PETE JONES,,0 08/02/89,05:29:33,207445,2,PETE JONES,,1 08/02/89,05:35:20,207446,2,JERRY OLSEN,, E#42214, E#42215,19 08/02/89,06:34:07,207447,2,JAMES SCHMIDT,, E#42216,6 08/02/89,07:26:55,207448,2,RICHARD HINTON,,2 08/02/89,07:40:25,207449,2,ALEX ZELL,, 08/02/89,07:46:00,207450,2,PAUL STREETER,,7 08/02/89,08:04:29,207451,1,JERALD DAWSON,,3 08/02/89,11:39:29,207452,1,SCOTT SMITH,BARRINGTON/IL,5 08/02/89,12:53:33,207453,1,TOM TOM,, 08/02/89,13:14:41,207454,1,TOM M,, 08/02/89,13:29:11,207455,1,TOM OM,,10 08/02/89,14:09:01,207456,1,JOHN MUNDT,,2 08/02/89,14:40:21,207457,2,ROBERT FULTON,skokie/il,1 08/02/89,15:22:47,207458,1,ROBERT BURKHEAD,Bannockburn/ IL,3 08/02/89,15:42:33,207459,2,ROBERT BURKHEAD,,2 08/02/89,15:55:58,207460,1,RICHARD GOZDAL,, E#42217,3 08/02/89,16:21:58,207461,2,ROBERT BURKHEAD,,1 08/02/89,16:24:45,207462,2,ROBERT BURKHEAD,,0 08/02/89,16:39:54,207463,1,GRAHAM GAMBLE,,4 08/02/89,16:45:49,207464,2,ROBERT BURKHEAD,,4 08/02/89,19:26:57,207465,1,BILL MERRIMAN,chicago/il, 08/02/89,21:42:31,207466,1,KEVIN KEYSER,,2 08/02/89,21:48:16,207467,2,ORANGE GOPHER,{Chicago/ IL, E#42218,11 08/02/89,22:01:00,207468,2,BILL FLAPAN,,2 08/02/89,22:06:22,207469,1,CHARLIE KESTNER,,12 08/02/89,22:57:10,207470,1,F FRANK,, ]CHAT: THINGS FOR SALE, 08/03/89,00:31:33,207471,3,ALPHONSE SCHILLING,,5 08/03/89,00:41:12,207472,2,DONALD CROSS,,2 08/03/89,02:15:59,207473,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,2 08/03/89,02:36:03,207474,3,JOCK SCHLOSS,Chicago IL,5 08/03/89,03:45:50,207475,2,JERRY OLSEN,,1 08/03/89,08:33:44,207476,1,DENNIS ROHR,, 08/03/89,08:50:31,207477,2,ROBERT BURKHEAD,,2 08/03/89,09:35:31,207478,1,BRIAN JOHNSON,, >Help: A,6 08/03/89,10:03:12,207479,1,BRIAN NSON,chgo, >Help: A,10 08/03/89,10:14:57,207480,2,GLENN SUSZ,ago/Il,2 08/03/89,10:16:28,207481,2,GLENN SUSZ,, E#42219,6 08/03/89,10:44:58,207482,1,TOM TOM,, 08/03/89,11:13:07,207483,1,GEOFF SJOSTROM,Oak Park/ IL,2 08/03/89,11:26:51,207484,2,RANDY WEAR,,1 08/03/89,11:37:01,207485,2,ROBERT BURKHEAD,,5 08/03/89,11:47:54,207486,1,ROBERT BURKHEAD,,1 08/03/89,11:50:00,207487,1,BOB DRUMM,,2 ]BOB DRUMM, 08/03/89,11:52:59,207488,1,BOB DRUMM,,3 08/03/89,12:40:08,207489,2,ROBERT BURKHEAD,,1 08/03/89,12:42:14,207490,2,ROBERT BURKHEAD,, 08/03/89,12:52:22,207491,1,BRIAN JOHNSON,, >Help: A,4 08/03/89,15:46:21,207492,1,BOB DRUMM,,4 08/03/89,15:49:50,207493,2,JACK HOMA,,2 08/03/89,15:59:29,207494,2,TIM GARRITY,Chicago/ IL,2 08/03/89,16:07:52,207495,1,RICHARD GOZDAL,,1 08/03/89,16:18:30,207496,2,JAMES SCHMIDT,,1 08/03/89,18:26:19,207497,1,ANGEL LUIS FERNANDEZ,CAROLINA/ PUERTO RICO, >Help: ?, ]CHAT: PLEASE TELL ME HOW DOES THIS SYSTEMS WORK,21 08/03/89,19:27:18,207498,1,CHARLIE KESTNER,,2 08/03/89,20:13:28,207499,1,ANGEL LUIS FERNANDEZ,, ]CHAT: POLICY, >Help: HEADLINE,33 08/03/89,20:55:01,207500,2,BILL WOLFF,,9 08/03/89,21:05:21,207501,1,RICHARD GOZDAL,, E#42220,3 08/03/89,21:30:06,207502,1,MARK MEINKE,clarendon hills,17 08/03/89,21:58:55,207503,3,SCOTT DRAKE,elk grove village,4 08/03/89,21:59:50,207504,2,BILL MATTSON,,6 08/03/89,22:08:41,207505,3,SCOTT DRAKE,, >Help: A,7 08/03/89,22:18:59,207506,1,LARRY HOFFMAN,lombard/il,13 08/03/89,22:33:19,207507,2,PAUL STREETER,,18 08/03/89,22:36:26,207508,2,JOSEPH SKOM,,12 08/03/89,23:28:56,207509,2,JIM POLOUS,, E#42221,5 08/04/89,01:13:36,207510,1,MICHAEL PASTORELLI,,2 08/04/89,04:11:45,207511,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,1 08/04/89,05:34:59,207512,2,PETE JONES,,1 08/04/89,08:53:11,207513,2,RICHARD HINTON,,2 08/04/89,09:40:33,207514,2,PAUL STREETER,,49 08/04/89,10:21:48,207515,2,GARY ELFRING,, E#42222,6 08/04/89,11:08:31,207516,2,DICK LIEBER,,4 08/04/89,11:35:28,207517,2,MIKE ANDREWS,,11 08/04/89,12:27:24,207518,2,BRENT JONES,,2 08/04/89,13:38:47,207519,2,ZORAN MILENOVIC,,11 08/04/89,13:52:54,207520,2,KEN HARRISON,{chicago, 08/04/89,14:09:53,207521,2,MARTY LINGG,,1 08/04/89,14:13:31,207522,2,KEVIN ONORATO,west chicago IL,10 08/04/89,14:54:09,207523,2,CLIFF SHARP,,3 08/04/89,15:27:39,207524,1,DAVID BETHANY,,2 08/04/89,16:09:24,207525,2,RANDAL CRAIG,,10 08/04/89,16:20:06,207526,1,JEAN BARBER,,11 08/04/89,16:51:15,207527,1,SONNY HAASE,Hattiesburg/ MS,2 08/04/89,17:31:11,207528,2,DICK LIEBER,,5 08/04/89,17:45:17,207529,2,PHIL JERN,,2 08/04/89,19:28:52,207530,1,RICHARD GOZDAL,, E#42223,4 08/04/89,20:39:39,207531,2,STEVE COOK,,5 08/04/89,20:58:55,207532,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,1 08/04/89,21:03:43,207533,2,JIM POLOUS,, E#42224,3 08/04/89,21:26:01,207534,2,ALEX ZELL,, 08/04/89,21:54:47,207535,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, 42211 08/01/89 COLIN SCHROEDER => RICHARD GOZDAL: "R/ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEM" 42212 08/01/89 ED FOSTER => COLIN SCHROEDER: "SOFTWARE UPGRADES" 42213X 08/01/89 RICHARD GOZDAL => ALL: "NEED HERC" 42214 08/02/89 JERRY OLSEN => WARD: "R/DTP FILES" 42215 08/02/89 JERRY OLSEN => ALL: "DR. DOBB'S ARTICLE NEEDED" 42216 08/02/89 JAMES SCHMIDT => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "MNP5 AND CBBS" 42217X 08/02/89 RICHARD GOZDAL => ALL: "NEED HERCS" 42218X 08/02/89 ORANGE GOPHER => JAMES SCHMIDT: "R/DOSSHELL 4.01 ENVIRONMENT" 42219 08/03/89 GLENN SUSZ => ALL: "MAILING LIST USAGE" 42220 08/03/89 RICHARD GOZDAL => ALL: "2ND FAN" 42221 08/03/89 JIM POLOUS => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "IRQS" 42222 08/04/89 GARY ELFRING => ED FOSTER: "UPGRADE[" 42223 08/04/89 RICHARD GOZDAL => ALL: "HELP 4 UPGRADE" 42224 08/04/89 JIM POLOUS => ALL: "HARD DISK HELP" - End of summary - Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts. Msg 42211 is 07 line(s) on 08/01/89 from COLIN SCHROEDER to RICHARD GOZDAL re: R/ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEM The 'keep quiet' strategy is prevalent in the industry. So much so, in fact, that PC-Week (I think) recently ran an editorial decrying it! However, the cost of free upgrades en masse is prohibitive, so few vendors do so. Microsoft has occasionally done it; I got a free upgradde to MS FORTRAN v. 4.01 from 4.0. They just sent a bunch of new disks w/ info w/o my even asking for it! This is rare though. I hope your Fountain continues to bring you good luck! Msg 42212 is 09 line(s) on 08/01/89 from ED FOSTER to COLIN SCHROEDER re: SOFTWARE UPGRADES Most of the software companies out there don't do mass mailings of new releases, but a couple of weeks I got in the mail an unsolicited disk of replacement utility programs for PC Tools Deluxe. Since this is about a $60 package, either Central Point is non-profit or there must have been something really wrong with the previous upgrade. As a minor software publisher, I subscribe to the upgrade-on-request policy. We mail a notice describing the upgrade, mention that it is free, and ask users to call an 800 number. Very few of them do it. I hope that doesn't mean the package isn't being used. No msg 42213 Msg 42214 is 23 line(s) on 08/02/89 from JERRY OLSEN to WARD re: R/DTP FILES Well, the program I've been marketing is used to fully translate word processing files to files for almost any phototypesetting machine. It has done that well enough that it is beginning make a name for itself in graphic arts circles. Lately, though, some people have experimented with a shareware copy on files destined for DTP environments and have reported fair success even though that wasn't the original intent of the program. What they've liked about it is that EasyType, unlike many alternatives, disregards any codes in the original file, yet passes through codes which have no direct typesetting equivalent in raw form. (Instead, they're passed through in an easily-retrieved "flagged" form for typesetter attention.) I have a strong interest in offering a version of EasyType targeted on DTP. Obviously, to do so I need to analyze how various DTP programs store their data, and to compare that to various typesetting file structures.And that's where my original request to you comes in. I'm looking for a couple of files (along with a note about the program and version of origin). In particular, I'd appreciate one simple, short file with an absolute minimum of "fancy" coding (font changes, graphics, etc.). And then, at least one file filled with such things.Together, this will provide a starting point. Any clearer? (If not, I'd gladly chat voice to clarify what would and wouldn't be useful.) Again, thanks. Msg 42215 is 13 line(s) on 08/02/89 from JERRY OLSEN to ALL re: DR. DOBB'S ARTICLE NEEDED I recently released an MS-DOS "file-finder" program which, among other options, offers a "fuzzy search" mode to find files when a user doesn't sufficiently recall its name to locate it directly or with DOS wildcards. Since then, I've received source code for a lengthy function whose algorithm offers an excellent resource for expanding my program's feature. Unfortunately, I have yet to secure a copy of the code's comments or the discussion accompanying it in an article of last year. Does anyone have access to the July '88 issue of Dr. Dobb's (#141)? If so, I'd appreciate either a copy of the "Pattern Matching by Gestalt" article or arranging access to the issue so I could peruse and return it. If you can help with this key bit of research, please leave a message or call voice at 312.939.3300 (workdays, afternoons best) to make arrangements. Thanks. Msg 42216 is 09 line(s) on 08/02/89 from JAMES SCHMIDT to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: MNP5 AND CBBS Ward, I am giving serious consideration to replacing my PP2400SA modem with a PP2400SA/MNP5. Would this cause any performance improvement with this board? Or perhaps more importantly would this be incompatable with this board? Can you offer any suggestions in the area of setup strings to configure the modem for maximum performance/compatability? Sincerely, James Schmidt No msg 42217 No msg 42218 Msg 42219 is 06 line(s) on 08/03/89 from GLENN SUSZ to ALL re: MAILING LIST USAGE I am looking to advertise a new computer service to computer store owners/dealers and need to see if anyone has advise or experience using mailing lists. SHould I rent/buy names, from who, etc. The service is a PC-Help Hotline 1-900-234-HELP Charges to apply. Try it out. Msg 42220 is 08 line(s) on 08/03/89 from RICHARD GOZDAL to ALL re: 2ND FAN Got fed up yesterday with the HOT computer. Installed a second fan today MY way. Picked up a nice 120v fan at American Science Center for $10.50, drilled holes in a circle like the phone "dial" and screwed it to the side of the case by the HDs. Left the center as a shield from the fan motor (nothing else between the HDs and fan otherwise). The computer is running COLD now. Might get a LITTLE static with these 1/2 in. holes but on an XT shouldn't be too noticeable. Guess a 386 would wipe out the radio. Msg 42221 is 02 line(s) on 08/03/89 from JIM POLOUS to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: IRQS I solved the problem. my hand scanner was set to IRQ2. I will set it to IRQ 7 since I don't have (and don't see a need for) a math coprocessor. Msg 42222 is 07 line(s) on 08/04/89 from GARY ELFRING to ED FOSTER re: UPGRADE[ I just sent out upgrade notices to older users of one of my commercial laser printre utilities. (TSR Download package.) I sent postcards cause they're cheap to print and mail- 2.5 cents per printed card + 15 cents po postage + 1 label. My upgrade costs $12.50 and includes new version of the program, Perfect bound manual, plus a bunch of new utilities. I sent 114 cards last Friday and have gotten 10 piad upgrades so far. (Not bad for 1 week!) Msg 42223 is 05 line(s) on 08/04/89 from RICHARD GOZDAL to ALL re: HELP 4 UPGRADE I SHOULD upgrade now and don't have the foggiest about 386s. Would a FAST 286 be wise at this time? I really only need about 70-80 meg HD and EGA-VGA monitor. If 386s allow memory addressing above 640K that might be wise other wise a 286 sounds better to me. I figure $2800 is a lot for a 286 and a medium price for a 386. Msg 42224 is 05 line(s) on 08/04/89 from JIM POLOUS to ALL re: HARD DISK HELP I was just given a brand new MiniScribe (Model 3012) hard disk, but I don't know the configuration settings, there is a DIP shunt with all connections broken but 1, (I assumed that was DS0), moving it over to the right was no help. Any info you could tell me would b greatly appreciated dup. chars. >Function:?