CBBS(R) 4.0.3b 07/06/89 21:54:13 ++LINE > 9 LONG - truncated, return to ACCEPT, ^U to RE-ENTER: )UCK 9 LONG - truncated, return to ACCEPT, ^U to RE-ENTER: C^U ? Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?n What is your FIRST name?^U ?^U ?^U ?ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss Logging name to disk... You are caller 206652; next msg =42026; 311 active msgs. Prev. call 07/02/89 @ 20:39, next msg was 42006 Recording logon for next time. Use FULL? to check assignments ?^U type log^U ?dir log;dir killed LOG. 11 KILLED. 6 >Function:?dur ^U ?type log,ward c HRISTENSEN,,0 07/02/89,00:18:32,206522,2,PAUL STREETER,,18 07/02/89,00:58:32,206523,2,BILL MATTSON,,3 206547,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, E#42006, 07/02/89,20:46:53,206548,X,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,3 07/02/89,21:16:33,206549,1,VIRENDRA DHUPELIA,barrington,4 07/02/89,21:22:47,206550,1,JOEL WHITE,,8 07/02/89,21:42:46,206551,1,CHARLIE KESTNER,,1 07/02/89,21:45:09,206552,3,PETE RETZBACH,,3 07/02/89,21:58:06,206553,1,GARY BARRETT,Des Moines/ IA, E#42007,14 ]Glad that you're finally back up! Hope to see your response soon! GaryB GARY BARRETT, 07/02/89,22:21:50,206554,1,JIM FLANAGAN,,9 07/02/89,23:37:13,206555,1,JAGOFF CUNTLIPS,shithole,2 ]JAGOFF CUNTLIPS, 07/03/89,00:15:07,206556,2,JIM ANDERSON,,6 07/03/89,00:33:13,206557,2,BILL MATTSON,,4 07/03/89,01:22:02,206558,2,JERRY OLSEN,, E#42008, E#42009,32 07/03/89,01:59:33,206559,1,ALAN LAYA,bridgeview,8 07/03/89,05:52:35,206560,2,PETE JONES,,1 07/03/89,05:54:36,206561,2,PETE JONES,,4 07/03/89,06:08:45,206562,2,ANTHONY TAM,,8 07/03/89,08:57:06,206563,1,GARY BARRETT,,2 07/03/89,09:14:25,206564,2,CALVIN CURTINDOLPH,Chicago/ IL, >Help: SEARCH\,13 07/03/89,09:55:51,206565,2,RICHARD HINTON,,1 07/03/89,10:27:13,206566,2,MIKE MCGINNIS,,3 07/03/89,11:34:59,206567,2,LARRY HITZ,,5 07/03/89,12:16:24,206568,1,MIKE MCGINNIS,,2 07/03/89,13:09:29,206569,1,JIM EGAN,,2 07/03/89,13:43:46,206570,2,CLIFF SHARP,,4 07/03/89,14:05:23,206571,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, E#42010, E#42011,14 ]Going to Wisconsin for a few days - 414 334-5445. Back mebbe Wednesday or Thurs. WARD CHRISTENSEN, 07/03/89,14:21:57,206572,2,JIM MILLS,, E#42012,7 07/03/89,15:01:45,206573,3,PETE RETZBACH,,3 07/03/89,15:47:42,206574,1,MATT KRUEGER,Chicago/IL,2 07/03/89,15:50:11,206575,2,MATT KRUEGER,,4 07/03/89,17:36:45,206576,2,JAMES SCHMIDT,, E#42013,3 07/03/89,18:46:15,206577,2,WAYNE SLUGOCKI,, 07/03/89,19:55:32,206578,1,JOHN SPALDING,Palatine IL,12 07/03/89,20:16:07,206579,2,QUINN CREDI,,6 07/03/89,20:37:19,206580,2,STEVE COOK,Justice/ Il, E#42014,3 07/03/89,21:22:10,206581,3,MURRAY ARNOW,,6 07/03/89,22:16:51,206582,1,RICHARD GOZDAL,, E#42015, E#42016,6 07/03/89,22:23:10,206583,1,CHARLIE KESTNER,,4 ]__Ward, I just snatched the JULY Stillwaters' BBS listing (by type) and it is in /usr/u1/chaz/CBBS0789.TYP approx 28K. (Lotsa white- space in that puppy!) __AZ: In keeping with my promise to a certain person named 'meg', I am also nagging you HERE to stop ignoring her (<- HER words). __Consider yourself nagged and guilt-tripped on both CBBSs, and I have now discharged my obligation to her. 8-] CHARLIE KESTNER, 07/03/89,22:40:36,206584,2,JIM SACKETT,lyons,7 07/03/89,23:19:48,206585,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,4 07/03/89,23:28:44,206586,1,DON PIVEN,,8 07/04/89,00:17:27,206587,1,O O,O/OO, 07/04/89,00:49:58,206588,2,JIM ANDERSON,,4 07/04/89,01:54:21,206589,2,BILL MATTSON,,6 07/04/89,08:45:07,206590,3,DAVE KENNELLY,,12 07/04/89,12:31:25,206591,2,MIKE SANDMAN,,10 07/04/89,12:58:07,206592,2,JIM SACKETT,,11 07/04/89,13:12:51,206593,2,ANTHONY TAM,, 07/04/89,14:25:19,206594,2,JOHN BAUSCHARD,, >Help: BBS,21 07/04/89,14:58:33,206595,2,JOHN BOSCH,chgo/ill, >Help: LIST, 07/04/89,16:51:57,206596,1,CHUCK WITBECK,, 07/04/89,18:36:05,206597,1,RICHARD GOZDAL,,1 07/04/89,19:05:03,206598,2,STEVE COOK,,1 07/04/89,20:04:43,206599,2,BILL WOLFF,,2 07/04/89,22:31:39,206600,1,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,2 07/04/89,22:49:50,206601,1,JOHN BITNER,Evanston/ IL, 07/04/89,23:00:48,206602,1,JOHN BITNER,, 07/04/89,23:23:55,206603,1,JOHN BITNER,,3 07/04/89,23:59:35,206604,1,CHARLIE KESTNER,,1 07/05/89,00:23:20,206605,2,BOB VON BORSTEL,,3 07/05/89,02:25:32,206606,2,CHRIS RONDO,,3 07/05/89,02:27:45,206607,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,1 07/05/89,02:33:52,206608,2,JIM MORAVEC,,2 07/05/89,05:45:23,206609,2,PETE JONES,,0 07/05/89,05:53:54,206610,2,JAMES SCHMIDT,,1 07/05/89,08:12:33,206611,2,PAUL STREETER,,1 07/05/89,08:19:19,206612,1,MATT KRUEGER,,2 07/05/89,08:42:41,206613,2,DENNIS STAHL,,4 07/05/89,09:40:13,206614,2,MARTY LINGG,,4 07/05/89,11:17:58,206615,2,DAN HELMICK,Chicago/ IL,2 07/05/89,12:24:32,206616,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0 07/05/89,13:05:45,206617,2,GREG ZURO,chicago,3 07/05/89,13:22:17,206618,2,JACK HOMA,,14 07/05/89,13:41:10,206619,3,CHARLES ENGLUND,EAST CHICAGO/IND,7 07/05/89,13:54:23,206620,3,ALEX ZELL,,22 ]Glad to see we still support 300. Keybd cable pin broke fon my regular machine and while getting around to a new cable assy decided to unlimber my OZZIE. D'wanna fuss with hooking up the external modem so I'm using what I have: 300 bps. We get the same big BBSlist from Eric Bohlman's COPH BBS and I gave it to Ward via chinet, but I suspect he'd like to take a vacation from fussing with it. I'm not so sure that we should continue to provide it since it is available on many BBSs all over the place and CBBS is not, as Ward frequently points out, a download type bbs but primarily intended as a discussion board. What's this crapola about me ignoring meg? She has been ignoring me for the longest time. Never responds to any notes I send her bot on chinet and igloo. ALEX ZELL,39 ]Didja see that "Help: Girl,14" back there? Wonder what he wanted? [Yeah, I know it stands for 14 minutes... but still...] ALEX ZELL, 07/05/89,15:39:58,206621,1,DAVE BOER,HAMMOND/ IN,4 07/05/89,15:52:14,206622,1,ALAN LAYA,,2 07/05/89,16:22:11,206623,2,GARY ELFRING,,1 07/05/89,16:51:04,206624,1,PHIL JERN,,3 07/05/89,18:25:39,206625,3,PETE RETZBACH,,2 07/05/89,20:01:48,206626,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,0 07/05/89,20:26:49,206627,2,JAMES SCHMIDT,,1 07/05/89,20:46:19,206628,1,PETE RETZBACH,, E#42017,4 07/05/89,21:12:21,206629,2,JIM POLOUS,,8 07/05/89,21:55:50,206630,2,PAUL STREETER,, E#42018,51 07/05/89,22:23:13,206631,1,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, E#42019,3 ]Heh heh. That's a good one, AZ! Though I'd at least do "girl,16" so she could drive herself home ;-) __Still up in Wis. Boring. Though went to a museum of "automobilia" in Sheboygan WI today - quite fun. Will say more when I get back. WARD CHRISTENSEN, 07/05/89,22:28:55,206632,1,KEVIN HUOTARI,,6 ]thnx, as always KEVIN HUOTARI, 07/05/89,22:46:45,206633,1,CHARLIE KESTNER,,2 ]__Sorry, AZ. I was just going by what she was telling me. I'd suggest you give her the business (and I will also for her shoveling it at me)! __300? Jeez. You must be about the ONLY 300 caller now. I know I feel kind of "lonely" with my "1" amongst all those "2's". Still, can't beat old PCP for keeping the peace phone-bill-wise. CHARLIE KESTNER, 07/05/89,23:21:37,206634,1,MATT TADER,CHICAGO,7 07/05/89,23:49:47,206635,1,JOHN O'HARA,Orland Park/ IL,23 07/06/89,01:22:37,206636,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,, E#42020,1 07/06/89,06:57:37,206637,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1 07/06/89,07:59:06,206638,2,MIKE SANDMAN,,2 07/06/89,08:49:11,206639,3,ALEX ZELL,,53 ]chaz==ah, dont worry about meg. She's really ok, but mebbe suffering from the vapors or sumpin. 300 aint so bad...really easy to read. Except when reading usenet stuff and you have to wait while the interminable headers go by. ALEX ZELL, E#42021, 07/06/89,09:16:15,206640,1,GARY BARRETT,,13 07/06/89,09:52:34,206641,2,PAUL STREETER,,2 07/06/89,12:09:28,206642,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,, E#42022,2 07/06/89,12:56:51,206643,2,PETER OLIVOLA,oak park/ il,2 07/06/89,14:58:04,206644,2,GARY ELFRING,, E#42023,4 07/06/89,15:13:06,206645,1,LARRY HITZ,,2 07/06/89,16:46:59,206646,1,ERIC STRAUTS,Chicago,7 07/06/89,17:13:08,206647,1,GERHARD BOECKLE,Stuttgart/Germany,8 ]Sorry my first try ! Hope it work s better next time Log in later Thanks guy.s GERHARD BOECKLE, 07/06/89,18:44:29,206648,2,STEVE COOK,,0 07/06/89,19:11:46,206649,1,PETE RETZBACH,,4 07/06/89,20:57:15,206650,1,RICK SURWILO,RINGWOOD/NJ, E#42024,6 07/06/89,21:07:02,206651,2,JOHN MCCABE,park ridge, E#42025,8 07/06/89,21:54:34,206652,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, >Function:?r;* Msg 42006 is 08 line(s) on 07/02/89 from WARD CHRISTENSEN to RICHARD HINTON re: R/BBS NUMBERS. We used to keep the old Sonka list, but he quit maintaining it, and I didn't restore the old copy after the "big CBBS crash" of June. My notes say that the Stillwaters BBS at 769-4608 has a nice list, with a name something like CBBSmmyy (Chicago BBS, month-year e.g. when I first learned of it, it was CBBS0489). It will be a zip or arc. Board supports 2400. I'm having trouble with file uploads here, or I'd try to go get it - I seem to be having problems doing file xfers. -End of 42006 Msg #:?short + leaving retrieve mode. dup. chars. >Function:?r Msg #:?+ Msg 42007 is 24 line(s) on 07/02/89 from GARY BARRETT to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: STATE OF BBS'S TODAY Ward...I am trying to finish up a magazine article (free-lance) on the state of BBSing today...particularly the problems which system operators now face- from viruses corrupting programs, from law enforcement which seems to be looking at the BBS as the harbor of illegal activity and cases you may have been following where telephone and long distance companies have lashed out against legitimate BBS systems. (One example: in Oklahoma and Texas, the local phone company is trying to charge BBS operators the expensive business line monthly fee regardless of whether the BBS is commercial or not...closer to home, Telcom USA, a long distance provider, recently prevented its customers from connecting with the Protecto/Computer Direct BBS in Chicago because it found that some of those suspected of gaining illegal long distance usage were calling the Protecto/Computer Direct board. Specifically, what I would like from you...as the "father" of the BBS system...are we finally in an era where it is going to be impractical or impossible for the hobbyist to operate a BBS? Are there so many problems inherent in the telecom community that you would advise against starting a BBS system? If you could answer these questions and give me what you feel is the future of BBSing I would appreciate it! Thanks, Gary Barrett Msg 42008 is 14 line(s) on 07/03/89 from JERRY OLSEN to PETE RETZBACH re: R/TERMINAL HELP It sounds as though the most likely source of your problem is miscommunication between modem and software in terms of the TYPE of codes they're sending to each other. I'll assume for the moment that your modem is a true "Hayes compatible" and the Procomm is set to expect that. If so, remember that "Hayes" modems can be configured to send either NUMERIC or "English" codes. If your modem is sending and expecting one but Procomm is set for the other, such things as recognizing carrier simply won't work. If you're not sure that the software and modem are "speaking the same language," I'd suggest a careful look at your modem literature to see how to set up the hardware for numeric codes and try that. If there still are problems, take a good look at Procomm's documentation involving modem installation. Quite a few settings are involved, but just ensure your curent settings (which you can determine by using the ALT-S menu, then select "modem options" submenu) match what's expected by your modem, per its manual. Good luck. Msg 42009 is 21 line(s) on 07/03/89 from JERRY OLSEN to WARD re: MISC STUFF. This is my first call since CBBS was back up. Unless I missed a log-on bulletin, here's a temporary problem I encountered which wasn't mentioned in any new msgs which I was able to find....Doing "R;*;+" found no new msgs. Also, though the first new msg (as far as I can tell) was 42000, Doing "Q;42000" yielded no new msgs. However, after about a dozen trial-and- error guesses with "R;;+" (substituting with various numbers) I eventually found 8 or so new msgs. Where was a number prior to 42000 no new msgs popped up. Where was greater than 42009 missed all new msgs too (being too high). But I eventually locked into all (?) of the new msgs....Seems the index between "precrash" and "postcrash" msgs couldn't make the leap. I suspect, though, that my user record should point past the problem area next time....Sorry to hear of the problems over this way, which Alex Z. kindly advised folks over on my board early on. BTW, prior to the crash you'd kindly offered a couple of DTP files for my examination of their structure. I dunno if you've gotten to them, if they (and possibly a msg about them) were trashed along with other stuff or you just haven't had time. Again, no rush; but if the offer still stands, the files would continue to be useful. Kind regards. Msg 42010 is 13 line(s) on 07/03/89 from WARD CHRISTENSEN to GARY BARRETT re: R/STATE OF BBS'S TODAY Well, Randy Suess and I may have invented BBSs, but were never into file transfers that much - the only file transfers supported by any board I've run were many years ago in an attempt to run a CP/M Users group "by BBS". It is not clear what to do - I would surely promote shutting down the "pirate boards" and confiscating the hardware - if not also fining the operator. Perhaps we should look at it like we look at voice telephones- the positive aspects so far outweigh the negative ones, the we aren't about to stop using voice phones, are we? As to paying business rates, that WOULD slow down a lot of BBSs - they would have to become "subscription" boards, and that limits access, especially to new users. With telephone companies already extracting units, LD charges and other fees from users of BBSs, it seems unnecessary to add the burden of being a business line. Msg 42011 is 12 line(s) on 07/03/89 from WARD CHRISTENSEN to JERRY OLSEN re: R/MISC STUFF. I dunno what to say. There could be a bug in the summary file, but I am unable to reproduce your problem. The summary commands all work just fine, including r;*;+, etc. The only thing I can think is that I skipped the msg #'s up to 42000, because I wasn't sure how many msgs had been entered since my last capture, and I didn't want to re-use any msg #'s that would confuse users. Sounds like skipping also confused. If you do an o;-100 you'll see it kick right in. o;-60 still finds some of the older msgs. The -100 is not "100 active messages", but rather just subtracts 100 from the current "next" msg # and starts the summary there. No, haven't gotten to the DTP file yet - but am on vacation for a couple weeks so should have time to get to it! Msg 42012 is 09 line(s) on 07/03/89 from JIM MILLS to ALL re: PROGRAMMER WANTED WANTED: Programmer: dBASE III+ (Foxbase 2.1 experience preferred) and Spreadsheet (Microsoft Excel experience preferred) and MS-DOS familiarity. We are looking for someone who is willing to grow and learn. timeframe: immediate need, call J. Mills at (312) 629-5777, 9-5 M-F. Or send resume to: J. Mills Apache Electronic Graphics, Inc. PO Box 4774 Oakbrook, IL 60522-4774 Msg 42013 is 12 line(s) on 07/03/89 from JAMES SCHMIDT to ALL re: SUPERCALC 5 OPINION(S) (y I am looking for opinions (both positive and negative) on SUPERCALC 5 by Computer Associates. I have an older version of LOTUS and do not have the necessary hardware to support Version 3. They (CA) will upgrade any version of LOTUS to SC5 for $100. Is this product as good as the advertisements and demo disk makes it out to be? It seems to be aimed at the user base that does not possess the the hardware for 123 V 3.0. I suppose my other option is to wait for 123 V 2.2. I know this product has been around a while and the last issue of PC Magazine did an article on it and it aroused my interest. Like I said I am looking for opinions and personal experiences. Thank you, James Schmidt Msg 42014 is 23 line(s) on 07/03/89 from STEVE COOK to ALL re: COMPUTER FOR SALE!!! For Sale: Franklin PC-6000 * 512 K RAM * One 5 1/4" Floppy Disk Drive * Serial Port * Parallel Port * Game Port * AT style keyboard * Color Graphics Card (supports RGB, color composite, and composite monichrome) * 4 full size IBM slots * Franklin monichrome monitor included If you are interested please leave me some E-mail on this board. Best offer. Also available for sale: Sakata TTL amber monitor Msg 42015 is 02 line(s) on 07/03/89 from RICHARD GOZDAL to RICHARD HINTON re: R/BBS NUMBERS... Try the Windy City BBS 735-9553, the Spitfire boards here list all the BBSs cross country, registered and not. - Msg #:?+ Msg 42017 is 04 line(s) on 07/05/89 from PETE RETZBACH to JERRY OLSEN re: R/TERMINAL HELP i switched comports on this hunk of iron and am now on line typing away at 1200 baud ... I dont know why comport1 was reserved but i guess i'll find out someday ... thanx for your message; i really do appreciate the help thanx again Msg 42018 is 06 line(s) on 07/05/89 from PAUL STREETER to WARD re: RESTORE COMMAND Do you know what the RESTORE command is telling me when it stops with a beep (goes to a C>) near the end of the 11th diskette of 15? I said near the end because I looked at the other dataset with NORTON UTILITY, and it showed 2 more datasets on the diskette. (I am hoping that I interpreted it reasonably correctly.) I could not find any explanation in the PCDOS manual. OS 3.3. Msg 42019 is 08 line(s) on 07/05/89 from WARD CHRISTENSEN to PAUL STREETER re: R/RESTORE COMMAND I think your restore command is "dying", i.e. there should be no circumstances under which it doesn't give you a legitimate error message of some sort. Even if it thought it was done, I'd think it would do something like say it was done, and the beep is a total mystery. Try comparing the restore program you're using against one from the distribution disk (the COMP command) to see if it might be in error. Good luck! Msg 42020 is 01 line(s) on 07/06/89 from ERIC BOHLMAN to WARD re: AD OK? Is it ok for me to post an ad here offering programming services? Msg 42021 is 03 line(s) on 07/06/89 from ALEX ZELL to ERIC BOHLMAN re: AD OK Never a problem here with computer related ads for materials and services as long as they are in straight text and not set up as newspaper display ads with lots of caps and borders. Msg 42022 is 19 line(s) on 07/06/89 from ERIC BOHLMAN to ALL re: PROGRAMMING SERVICES AVAILABLE CUSTOM/CONTRACT PROGRAMMING SERVICES AVAILABLE Whether you're developing software for sale or for internal use, we can speed your task along. --All major high-level languages --All major database packages --Assembler and low-level programming (embedded microcontroller systems a specialty) --Quality documentation, both user and system level (including documentation of existing systems) --Hardware design services available --General consultation: we can recommend the right system for your needs --Not a reseller: we recommend what's best for you, not what gives us the highest markup --Affordable rates --Quick turnaround If your organization has software needs that you can't meet in-house, contact Eric Bohlman at OMS Development, (312)251-5787 to find out how we can meet them for you. Msg 42023 is 08 line(s) on 07/06/89 from GARY ELFRING to ALL re: OCR SOFTWARE??? I have about 2000 lead sheets from a computer magazine with names and addresses on them. I also own an HP scanjet. Is there any OCR software out there that will let me specify a window on my scanner, and then read my sheets, turning them into ASCII? The typeface is not a dot matrix one- it is fixed width. I would need a t trainable system. q /;~3 Msg 42024 is 03 line(s) on 07/06/89 from RICK SURWILO to ALL re: FILE COMPRESSION Does anyone know of a public domain file compression program for which source code (preferably C) is available? I'm not fussy about whether it's absolute last word in efficiency. I need to port it to an oddball OS. Msg 42025 is 02 line(s) on 07/06/89 from JOHN MCCABE to RALPH FERONE re: 9600 BAUD MODEM testing microcom modem on my system and it works! how is yours? have your faceplate, just give me a buzz. Past hi msg # Msg #:? >Function:?