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An Onipa'a Software Production Vol. 4, No. 5 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Publisher................................Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. Editor.....................................................Lyle Syverson Internet Email, Publisher.........................thelamp@sheppyware.net Internet Email, Editor................................lyle@FoxValley.net :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: TABLE OF CONTENTS ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ May 15, 2001 HIGH ABOVE THE ROCK RIVER---------------------------------------------[OPN] From Down on the Farm - The Threshing Ring K-Fest is Like That A2 FORUM AT Syndicomm Online (A2Central.com) DISTILLATIONS Accessing the Members-Only FTP Site Using a Web Browser----------[UWB] DSL vs Cable Modem-----------------------------------------------[DCM] Syndicomm to Distribute GS+ Magazines and Software---------------[GSP] Sending a Private Message in RTC---------------------------------[SPM] Help Wanted to Staff the Palm OS Community-----------------------[SPC] Why Bother With the Apple II Anymore?----------------------------[WBA] Diversi-Cache on a IIgs With 3.5 Drives--------------------------[DCD] Printing from Appleworks to the HP DeskJet-----------------------[PAD] New Version of SOAR Available------------------------------------[NVS] Ninjaforce Releases Samurai--------------------------------------[NRS] Favorite Games From the Past-------------------------------------[FGP] Source for Dragon Wars-------------------------------------------[SDW] Using Commodore 1084s Monitors with the IIgs---------------------[CMG] Keeping Your Apple II Cool---------------------------------------[KAC] Juiced.GS, Volume 6, Issue 1-------------------------------------[JGS] Which One Bug in a Sheppyware Program do You Want Fixed?---------[WBF] Totally SheppyWare CD-ROM----------------------------------------[SCD] Diskmaker--------------------------------------------------------[DMR] KeyNotifier------------------------------------------------------[KNF] ProBOOT----------------------------------------------------------[PBT] Shifty List------------------------------------------------------[SLS] SmartRestart-----------------------------------------------------[SRS] Pointless--------------------------------------------------------[PLS] Spectrum v2.5.2 vs v2.5.1----------------------------------------[STF] Spectrum... Binary Mode with a Telnet Connection-----------------[SBT] Spectrum Scripts-------------------------------------------------[SPS] FishWings--------------------------------------------------------[FWS] Success with KEGS------------------------------------------------[SWK] Beta Testers Needed----------------------------------------------[BTN] Best Applesoft Editor?-------------------------------------------[BAE] DELPHI A2 DISTILLATIONS Google (Formerly DejaNews) Restores Archives---------------------[SCR] Samurai (IRC Client for IIgs) Released---------------------------[SCR] DELPHI A2P DISTILLATIONS PMPUnzip Reminder------------------------------------------------[PUR] LETTERS TO THE EDITOR No Letters to the Editor This Month------------------------------[NLE] An Invitation----------------------------------------------------[LTE] THINKING KFEST The KFest FAQ--Ready for an Oddessey in 2001---------------------[KFE] by Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. KFEST 2001 K-Fest Registration Information----------------------------------[KFR] K-Fest Rooms Going Fast------------------------------------------[RGF] K-Fest Memories--------------------------------------------------[KFM] EXTRA INNINGS About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN] [*] [*] [*] READING THE LAMP! The index system used by The Lamp! is designed to make """"""""""""""""" your reading easier. To use this system, load this issue into any word processor or text editor. In the index you will find something like: EXTRA INNINGS About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN] To read this article, simply use your search or find command to locate [INN]. There is a similar tag at the end of each article: [EOA]. [OPN]------------------------------- HIGH ABOVE THE ROCK RIVER | ------------------------------------ From The Editor """"""""""""""" by Lyle Syverson From High Above the Rock River today you can see many miles into the distance. Thoughts turn to times past From Down on the Farm... From Down on the Farm - The Threshing Ring ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The huge cylinders of the kerosene engine of the tractor bark loudly... transferring its mighty power to the threshing machine... two men are pitching bundles of grain precisely on to the conveyor... the knives cutting the twine on each bundle as it enters the machine... the cylinder threshing the kernels of grain from the heads of the grain bundles... the shaking racks separating the kernels from the straw... the kernels of grain moving to a wagon... the straw blower creating a giant stack of straw. A dozen or so farmers have banded together to form a "threshing ring". All of them cooperate to harvest their wheat, oats, barley and flax. There is plenty of work for all. Men are loading bundles on horse drawn hay racks to take the place of the men pitching bundles into the threshing machine when their wagons are empty. A young boy levels the grain in the wagon receiving the kernels of grain. The machine must be adjusted. The straw blower adjusted. The tractor refueled. The kernels of grain hauled to the granary... the grain transferred to the storage bins. Then at 12 noon this all comes to a stop as everyone heads to the farm house for dinner. The women and girls have been busy preparing huge quantities of food to feed those hungry, hard working men. Roast beef, roast pork, or fried chicken. Piles of mashed potatoes. Hugh bowls of gravy. Fresh baked bread with home made butter. Peas, corn, pickles. Large pieces of pie. The threshing ring was more than a means of harvesting grain... it was a social function for all the farm families involved. To fully understand what it was like you had to _Be There_. K-Fest is Like That ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To fully understand what K-Fest is like you have to _Be There_. Every Apple II user should go to K-Fest at least once in his/her life. Check the K-Fest section of this issue of _The Lamp!_ for some of the memories of K-Fests Past to get a hint of some of the things that can happen besides the "how to" sessions. [EOA] ASCII ART BEGINS _________ _ _ _ |__ __| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |___ ____ | | _____ __ ___ _ _ _____ | | | | | ___ \ / __ \ | | /____ \ | v v | | v ___ \ | | | | | | | | | /__\ \ | | ____| | | /\ /\ | | / \ \ | | | | | | | | | _____| | | / ___ | | || || | | | | | |_| | | | | | | | |_____ | |____ | |__| | | || || | | \___/ / _ |_| |_| |_| \______| |______| \____^_| |_||_||_| | |\____/ |_| | | | | |_| ASCII ART ENDS [EOA] --------------------------------------------------- DISTILLATIONS FROM The A2 FORUM at Syndicomm.com | (A2Central.com) | --------------------------------------------------- by Lyle Syverson [UWB] ACCESSING THE MEMBERS-ONLY FTP SITE USING A WEB BROWSER """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Is it possible to access the members-only FTP site from a web browser? I tried navigating to it from ftp://ftp.syndicomm.com using iCab, and also tried accessing ftp://kgagne@ftp.syndicomm.com/pub/members-only directly, but was never asked for a password and always got the following message: FTP error #550 550 members-only: Permission denied. -Ken (KGAGNE, Cat 2, Top 3, Msg 82) >>>>> """"" >> ... possible to access the members-only FTP site from a web browser? << Yes, but it requires a strange URL and I don't know it offhand. People with enhanced accounts can use our Lynx feature to download files using Zmodem, by the way. Just open Lynx, go to ftp://ftp.syndicomm.com/pub/members-only/a2, find and select the file you want, hit "D" to download, and when asked, choose Zmodem as the download method. We have Kermit as well. Eric 'Sheppy' Shepherd Owner Syndicomm Building communities bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 2, Top 3, Msg 83) >>>>> """"" >> ... possible to access the members-only FTP site from a web browser? << Yes, and I need to update the docs within a week or so. In the meantime, try this URL: ftp://username:password@syndicomm.com//pub/members-only Works with Lynx and Links as well as your more conventional browsers :) Ryan Chief Sysop and Head Geek (A2.RYAN, Cat 2, Top 3, Msg 84) >>>>> """"" Thanks Ryan - the URL format you gave does work. I find I'm hit with the same "#550 Permission Denied" error message if I try to use the Back button on my browser, though - I have to re-enter the URL with my name and password. This happens with iCab, but not with Netscape - nor, of course, FTP clients such as Transmit and Fetch. -Ken (KGAGNE, Cat 2, Top 3, Msg 86) >>>>> """"" You can try entering the URL like this: ftp://username@syndicomm.com Without the password, your browser should prompt you for it, and remember it if the browser supports this feature. I know IE5 does. I'm not sure about Netscape and iCab. When using the ftp:// URL format, you can tack on a directory name after the site name. The double slash shown in Ryan's example is used to force the directory path to start at the topmost ftp level instead of from your home directory. ftp://username@syndicomm.com/pub/members-only The above URL would look for a directory called pub/members-only inside your home directory. That's probably not what you want. ftp://username@syndicomm.com//pub/members-only That one will get you to the library. - Tony (A2.TONY, Cat 2, Top 3, Msg 88) >>>>> """"" I have been using Syndicomm's Lynx browser to access the file library. This allows me to use zmodem to transfer files to my IIe's hard drive. It's great! Mark Percival - RTC Host "Midweek Madness!" every Wednesday night. 7:00 PM - 9:00 PM PDT <- Be there or be square. ;) (MARK, Cat 2, Top 3, Msg 90) [EOA] [DCM] DSL VS CABLE MODEM """""""""""""""""" Does anyone have any experience with DSL? I've heard horror stories about it. Cable modem connections, on the other hand, seem to be quite reliable. Bill Dooley BB Assistant (A2.BILL, Cat 2, Top 12, Msg 1) >>>>> """"" There's some good DSL discussion in Cat 10, Top 4: ISDN, DSL, and Cable Modem. I'll probably be moving this summer and going through the DSL installation process again (assuming it's available in the hamlet of Sterling, Mass.). Hope it's not like last time. -Ken (KGAGNE, Cat 2, Top 12, MSG 2) >>>>> """"" I'm a cable rather than DSL user, although, quite frankly, I think the technology of DSL is superior. OTOH, I find the cable company much better to deal with than the phone company. FWIW, the Northpoint disaster has dealt DSL a serious blow, although, to be honest, it could just as easily have dealt cable an equally if not more serious blow. Ryan Chief Sysop and Head Geek (A2.RYAN, Cat 2, Top 12, Msg 3) >>>>> """"" I tried to get DSL service. Tried being the verb in that sentence. The phone co. wanted to give me a windows-specific internal dsl modem, but I was able to get an external one with a little wrangling. Then I got it and found out they were using PPPoE, which sucks. And then I couldn't actually use it (I must have been too far from their main line, or maybe the phone line in my apartment was subgrade, or maybe they never switched my DSL on), and their phone tech support was absolutely worthless. I guess it depends a lot on where you are and who your provider is. Quite a few DSL providers have disappeared recently, finding out that losing money isn't a good way to stay in business. (KWS, Cat 2, Top 12, Msg 5) >>>>> """"" >> I'm a cable rather than DSL user, although, quite frankly, I think the technology of DSL is superior. OTOH, I find the cable company much better to deal with than the phone company. << Each has it's strong points, and each is as good as the operating company behind it. In the recent MacAddict article, DSL beat cable hands down, but that was a particularly bad cable company. I think as DSL matures, it's advantages will grow, but for now, it's showing growing pains. It seems the only reliable providers are the old local phone companies, and they don't always offer it. Distance limitations are a serious drawback, until ways are found to extend the loop. Cable is more available, and if managed well, is an excellent alternative. It's generally, but not always, cheaper than DSL and if loops are lightly loaded, faster than the slowest DSL, and almost as fast as the next DSL level, which is fast becoming the basic DSL. If poorly managed, all the horror stories of slow cable modems can come true. Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Fri 13 Apr 01 10:39:25 pm cknoblo@home.com - Via Spectrum v2.5.1 & SOAR v1.0b2 2001: A KFest Odyssey, July 25-29, 2001 - 103 days till KFest On cable via LANceGS & Marinetti 2.0.1 - Thank you, Richard. A2 RTC Staff - Saturday Night House Party - carlk@syndicomm.com (CARLK, Cat 2, Top 12, Msg 7) >>>>> """"" >>that's the reason why here, now, cable blows away DSL dollar for dollar<< This is true in my situation also. Cable, by far, is significantly better than DSL. LumiTech Cruising the 'railway' provided by: Spectrum v2.5.1 and SOAR! v1.0b2 (LUMITECH, Cat 2, Top 12, Msg 9) >>>>> """"" Right now, Cable is quite a bit more mature, and more widely available. In a few years, when DSL has developed more, and reaches more people, things may change. Since it's delivered over Telephone Company copper pairs, much of the development must be by the Telephone Company, even for other DSL providers to reach you. The Telephone Company has never been noted for moving quickly. :) Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Mon 16 Apr 01 9:59:46 pm cknoblo@home.com - Via Spectrum v2.5.1 & SOAR v1.0b2 2001: A KFest Odyssey, July 25-29, 2001 - 100 days till KFest On cable via LANceGS & Marinetti 2.0.1 - Thank you, Richard. A2 RTC Staff - Saturday Night House Party - carlk@syndicomm.com (CARLK, Cat 2, Top 12, Msg 10) [EOA] [GSP] SYNDICOMM TO DISTRIBUTE GS+ MAGAZINES AND SOFTWARE """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Syndicomm Signs Exclusive License to Distribute GS+ Magazines and software: May 1, 2001 - It is with great joy and optimism that Ross Falconer, owner of the complete works of GS+ Magazine, announces an exclusive sales and distribution agreement with Eric Shepherd of Syndicomm. Because the philosophy of the original publisher was to be true to the Apple IIGS platform, GS+ magazine deserves and will benefit from the high quality and professionalism on which Syndicomm has built their Apple IIGS reputation. It is worthy of note that the entire GS+ collection (magazine + disk combo) was created entirely using Apple IIGS desktop-publishing and programming tools. GS+ Magazine chronicles an important period in Apple II history and is a valuable asset to the Apple IIGS community. Now being re-introduced in the context of full-featured Apple IIGS emulators and high-performance Power Macintosh portables, GS+ Magazine will reacquaint former IIGS enthusiasts/developers with the wonder and power of programming in their own computing environment. More importantly, new Apple IIGS users will be introduced to a suite of useful and fun applications and utilities, as well as a very capable and friendly computing platform. The re-release of the entire GS+ collection will include a limited number of authentic original hard-copy back issues as well as a new and innovative distribution model. Through special arrangement with EGO Systems (the original publisher), the new distributions will be complete, in the original layout, with the original software. Syndicomm, a leader in the Apple II community, has devoted the time and talent necessary to provide developers and enthusiasts alike with a unique forum to share knowledge and resources. It is a place where legendary IIGS programmers may influence and interact with ongoing IIGS development efforts. "I am extremely pleased that Syndicomm has received exclusive rights to distribute GS+ magazine and that this publication will continue to be associated with such dedicated members of the IIGS community," said Mr. Falconer. "I am confident in the high quality and professionalism which Syndicomm lends to its efforts, and that new developers and enthusiasts alike will find the entire GS+ compilation to be entertaining, informative, and collectible." Mr. Shepherd added, "Syndicomm is thrilled to be bringing these most sought-after products back to the Apple II community after several years' absence. We're enthusiastic about working with Ross for some time to come." Visit Syndicomm's Apple II site and the whole Apple IIGS community at http://www.a2central.com/. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 2, Top 28, Msg 27) [EOA] [SPM] SENDING A PRIVATE MESSAGE IN RTC """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" I would love to do a /r "Your Text Here" or /reply "" in the RTC and have it send the message to the last person that you did a /send to (or it could be to the person you just did a /send to you BIG Difference there) Wayne (WAYNER, Cat 2, Top 30, Msg 27) >>>>> """"" Wayne, You might find it useful to set a keysub for the /sen command. Example: /keysub $.$/sen $ From then on I can just type a period, the person's handle, and my message, .Dain Try the new Nintendo game this month? -Ken (KGAGNE, Cat 2, Top 30, Msg 28) >>>>> """"" You could also do: /keysub $.r$/s ryan $ Then to send Ryan a message, just do: .rHi Ryan. Eric 'Sheppy' Shepherd Owner Syndicomm Building communities bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 2, Top 30, Msg 29) [EOA] [SPC] HELP WANTED TO STAFF THE PALM OS COMMUNITY """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" HELP WANTED Looking for a few good staff for the new Palm OS Community here on Syndicomm.com. Applicants ought to be familiar with basic use of Palm OS devices and the running of online forums. Looking for Real Time Conference hosts and manager, Bulletin Board manager, and a Chief Sysop. Chosen applicants receive special account consideration. For more information or to apply please email a2.ryan@syndicomm.com. Ryan Chief Sysop and Head Geek (A2.RYAN, Cat 2, Top 35, Msg 1) [EOA] [WBA] WHY BOTHER WITH THE Apple II ANYMORE? """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Why bother with the Apple II any more? Is it wise to switch now from a PC to a Mac? Discuss. Bill Dooley BB Assistant (A2.BILL, Cat 4, Top 7, Msg 1) >>>>> """"" The Apple II is fun. And for many purposes, it's all you need. You don't need a gigahertz of processing power and ultra-high-resolution monitors to write a letter to mom. Eric 'Sheppy' Shepherd Owner Syndicomm Building communities bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 4, Top 7, Msg 2) >>>>> """"" Or a newspaper column or a school paper or... I'm always proud to see newsletters such as Juiced.GS published completely on an Apple II. :) -Ken (KGAGNE, Cat 4, Top 7, Msg 3) >>>>> """"" I wrote my master's thesis on an Apple II (an emulated Apple II, but in those days, the emulator was usually no faster than the real thing). As well as every paper I turned in during college, both undergrad and graduate school. I've written at least part of every single professional and non-professional published article I've submitted on an Apple II, real or emulated. And I still am. As far as I'm concerned, as long as I can write, Apple II Forever! Ryan Chief Sysop and Head Geek (A2.RYAN, Cat 4, Top 7, Msg 4) >>>>> """"" I really enjoy doing stuff on the apple II. I keep my cash flow on the Appleworks GS Spreadsheet, and often write letters on the GS too. I do all my programming on the GS too. Bernie on the iMac would be a little faster, but I prefer doing it on the real thing. For me, the fact that the GS is a mature platform that doesn't change (No new OS is going to force a complete rewrite of anything) is a tremendous plus. Even if health problems stopped me from being able to finish a project for some time, the GS will still be the same when I finish it. Kim RTC Host (KIMHOWE, Cat 4, Top 7, Msg 5) [EOA] [DCD] Diversi-Cache ON A IIgs WITH 3.5 DRIVES """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Anyone still using Apple IIgs computers only with 3.5" drives and GS/OS? Well I participated in the Mar 17 wisconsin Apple Rescue operation, and picked up half dozen GS systems with only 3.5" drives. After testing to make sure they all worked, I messed around using them without hard drives. What a nightmare! Swapping disks up to a dozen times is no fun. The person with all the computers said we could come back the next day, so I did, just to get 2 disk drives per computer to end the maddening disk swapping. Since my personal computer is a souped-up 7mhz ROM1 with multi-hard drives, I found found that the poky 2.8mhz speed of a basic GS is not the bottleneck-it's the 3.5" drive. Anyway, I installed Diversi-Cache on a 3.5" disk with Silvern Castle and found it to be almost as fast as my hard drive! Unfortunately, GS/OS does not like Diversi-Cache. Anyone know of a work around? Jeff Fink (FINKSTERJ, Cat 8, Top 8, Msg 1) >>>>> """"" >> Anyone still using Apple IIgs computers only with 3.5" drives and GS/OS?...After testing to make sure they all > worked, I messed around using them without hard drives. What a nightmare! Swapping disks up to a dozen times is no fun. << The only way I've done that successfully is using Flashboot, from Quality Computers. If you have 8 meg of ram, and make a 5 meg ram disk, it actually works fairly well. The trick is to make several Flashboot sets, one for each major application you want to use. Of course, Jeff the computers you got there probably didn't have 8 meg of ram, eh? _________ | homas (TCOMPTER, Cat 8, Top 8, Msg 3) >>>>> """"" For good 'ol ProDOS 8 stuff, Diversi-Cache makes 3.5" disks extremely fast. Long before hard drives, cheap RAM, and functional GS operating systems (remember P16?), Diversi-Cache made 8bit 3.5" disk access fly. So for anyone with stock GS systems running as fast Apple IIe's, Diversi-Cache makes the GS seem faster than it really is. Compared to its 2.8mhz speed, the normal 3.5" floppy drive speed is SLOW. Jeff Fink (FINKSTERJ, Cat 8, Top 8, Msg 4) [EOA] [PAD] PRINTING FROM APPLEWORKS TO THE HP DESKJET """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Printing to my DeskJet... Is PCL supported in AW3 or do I need to do use AWGS with those printer drivers? W (WAYNER, Cat 9, Top 6, Msg 1) >>>>> """"" I know that AW5 came with drivers for DeskJets, and I think there are some available for AW3 as well. You are limited to text, and it does require a PCL printer. (A few Windows-only DeskJets lack PCL.) Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Fri 20 Apr 01 11:50:49 pm cknoblo@home.com - Via Spectrum v2.5.1 & SOAR v1.0b2 2001: A KFest Odyssey, July 25-29, 2001 - 96 days till KFest On cable via LANceGS & Marinetti 2.0.1 - Thank you, Richard. A2 RTC Staff - Saturday Night House Party - carlk@syndicomm.com (CARLK, Cat 9, Top 6, Msg 2) >>>>> """"" Actually, John Link released SUPERPATCH the day NAUG sent out the last issue. There's a driver there for the DeskJet for up to ver.3 I believe, and AW 4 and 5 contained DJ drivers that could be installed. Additionally, the printer disks I did for NAUG and which should be available from the DB here soon if not now, contain DJ driver for AW2 and up. Also, if you had custom drivers you wanted to use that you had set up for one version or another, Doug Gum wrote a utility for us that ported the codes from one SEG.ER version to another. We included the utility on all version of the disks. (Besides the DeskJet, we had over 100 other printers, mostly dot matrix, in there, as well as laser printer codes) Later........Howard (A2.HOWARD, Cat 9, Top 6, Msg 5) [EOA] [NVS] NEW VERSION OF SOAR AVAILABLE """"""""""""""""""""""""""""" A new version of SOAR is now on my web site for downloading. This version is required for the new menu system on A2Central. It now uses 'Page' commands instead of 'Go' commands, and can support the multiple Forums now appearing on A2Central. If you have had access to 'special' Forums, you will need to add these manually to the Forum lists. Please give me feedback and bug reports to either or . Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Mon 30 Apr 2001 - 86 days till KFest '01 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR 1.0b3 Setup: Bernie ][ the Rescue 3.0 and a Blue & White G3/350 http://www.ewannop.btinternet.co.uk/ (ONDUCTOR, Cat 10, Top 59, Msg 150) [EOA] [NRS] Ninjaforce RELEASES Samurai """"""""""""""""""""""""""" Ninjaforce has released Samurai, an IRC client for the Apple IIgs. It is in CDA format and has a similar appearance to ProTERM. Here's an excerpt from the docs. ________________________________________________________________ Introduction Samurai is an IRC (Internet Relay Chat) Client for the Apple IIGS. IRC is a common free worldwide chat service which has been around for a long time. If you are not familiar with IRC, have a look at these web pages: http://www.newircusers.com http://www.irchelp.com Using Samurai Samurai is a CDA (Classic Desk Accessory). In that way, Samurai can be activated whenever you need it, regardless of the Application that is currently running. Enter the CDA menu (OA-Control-Esc) and select "Samurai by Ninjaforce". (KGAGNE, Cat 11, Top 15, Msg 28) [EOA] [FGP] FAVORITE GAMES FROM THE PAST """""""""""""""""""""""""""" One of my favorite games -- not because I was good at it, but because it was just a great game -- was Karateka. That and Choplifter defined my early computer gaming days. :) Eric 'Sheppy' Shepherd Owner Syndicomm Building communities bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 14, Top 8, Msg 5) >>>>> """"" Kareteka was probably one of the 3 games that I've played all the way through. Maybe it was four, but who is counting. (WAYNER, Cat 14, Top 8, Msg 6) >>>>> """"" I was lucky enough to pick up a copy of Karateka some months ago. I have played it through several times. Definitely a great game, that really shows off what can be done on 1MHz. Kim Howe RTC Host (KIMHOWE, Cat 14, Top 8, Msg 7) >>>>> """"" My favorite Apple II game (or at least the one I played the most, and I'm not a gamer at all) was Sensei. Loved it, loved it, loved it. Ryan Chief Sysop and Head Geek (A2.RYAN, Cat 14, Top 8, Msg 9) >>>>> """"" Ah...Karateka, I still hear that opening theme music in my head..... Great game. One of my favorites. One of the few games I actually finished on the 8 bit side of Apple II world. Ultima IV being another, Bard's Tale I and III being the others. Another favorite of the 8 bit era for me was Short Circuit. It was a game where you had to go and battle on inside the microchip to save the planet from destruction. One problem with the game (If I remember correctly) was that it wouldn't work on a IIc. Not sure if it was just a 65C02 issue or just the IIc itself. Still a great game though. Dain Neater Bulletin Board Manager A2 Forum Syndicomm.com (A2.DAIN, Cat 14, Top 8, Msg 10) >>>>> """"" My all time favorite game has got to be Pirates! GS. Wow, I wasted so much time with that game (and it was educational, too :). Imagine my shock when I learned how to deprotect it and that it was written in AppleSoft :) My younger brother (who prefers windows 98 & online games, and more recently dream-casting) still boots up a IIgs to play Pirates (as well as Dragon Wars). (KWS, Cat 14, Top 8, Msg 12) [EOA] [SDW] SOURCE FOR DRAGON WARS """""""""""""""""""""" I don't think I can say anymore that I have hundreds of shrink wrapped copies of the 8-bit version of Dragon Wars, but nearly so. I'll let them go for $5 each, plus postage. The Dragon Wars box weighs 10 oz, so that's $2.23 for domestic postage. Make it $7 even. For those in the US. Checks, money orders to: Joe Kohn 166 Alpine St San Rafael, CA 94901 (JOKO, Cat 14, Top 8, Msg 15) [EOA] [CMG] USING COMMODORE 1084s MONITORS WITH THE IIgs """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" I recently acquired two Commodore 1084s monitors. I believe these may be used on the GS, and would like to give them a try. Does anyone have the specs for the cable required, and information on what settings to use on the monitor to make it work? Thanks Kim Howe RTC Host (KIMHOWE, Cat 17, Top 17, Msg 1) >>>>> """"" Redmond Cable (are they still around?) used to sell a IIgs cable for the Magnavox 8CM515, which is what the Commodore 1084 is. Drop them a note. If they don't make it anymore, they'd probably provide you with the pinouts. To make it work, you simply plug the cable into the GS and into the monitor. Behind the flip down door on the front is a switch that allows you to choose between RGB and NTSC input (I don't remember how it's labeled). Choose RGB. Gary R. Utter (HINDMOST, Cat 17, Top 17, Msg 2) >>>>> """"" After some research on the web, as well as on good ole TIAB :) I'd start with this: IIgs 1084S 15 9 1<---->1<-- 2<---->3 | 3<---->7 | -->6<---->2<-- | 5<---->4 | 9<---->5 ->13 You also need to flip a switch behind a flip down door as well. Not sure this will work, but I think it's worth a shot. Ryan Head Geek (A2.RYAN, Cat 17, Top 17, Msg 3) [EOA] [KAC] KEEPING YOUR APPLE II COOL """""""""""""""""""""""""" What methods are folks using to keep their Apple IIs cool? I have System Savers on a IIgs and IIe, a Conserver on another IIgs, and a home made fan with Radio Shack on another GS. Still not sure which I like best, although the home made fan is probably the easiest to get nowadays :) Ryan Chief Sysop (A2.RYAN, Cat 17, Top 12, Msg 1) >>>>> """"" I've got System Savers on my GS's and ][+ or IIe (whenever I happen to have them set up). Whether they're effective as Surge Protectors is debatable, since I know at least one of them has "gone off" at least once, (complete with smoke) so I'm sure that the little mov's or whatever Harold used to call them are fried by now. That brings up another question though. The system savers suck air up through the top vent of the GS, which in turn sucks air in through the bottom vents of the GS. It seems to me that also sucks in all the dustbunnies that collect on the desk. Wouldn't it make sense to PUSH air through the top vent, thus pushing the dust OUT of the bottom vents? This, of course, is assuming that you aren't pulling air right out of a hot monitor. _________ | homas (TCOMPTER, Cat 17, Top 12, Msg 2) >>>>> """"" I use a System Saver, and that's really about it. Eric 'Sheppy' Shepherd Owner Syndicomm Building communities bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 17, Top 12, Msg 4) >>>>> """"" I use a System Saver with a more powerful replacement fan from Radio Shack. I use it more for the convenience of separately switched electrical outlets than anything else. As for pushing in or pulling out the air, I honestly don't think it makes much difference as far as dust is concerned. You can put a filter on either end to keep out most of the dust, but it is easier to filter an intake fan since there's only one point of entry. Most fans seem to be exhaust fans these days, the thinking probably being that it's better to pull hot air away from the CPU than to push outside air over it. - Tony Ward Chief Librarian (ftp open now!) (A2.TONY, Cat 17, Top 12, Msg 5) >>>>> """"" I use a System Saver IIgs, modified with a 4" Radio Shack fan replacement. I've also reversed the original air flow direction to do as you suggest above; push air through the top vent. I filter the air being pushed in using standard air conditioning filtering material. I change it about once a month. You should see the dirt I filter! The innards of the IIgs remain quite "dust free". I've used this setup for at least 8 years, and has worked great for me. I've had to replace the fan a couple of times, but it's a standard 4" Radio Shack fan. I can get the catalog number if you need it. LumiTech Wed, 11 Apr 01 @ 15:12:18 Cruising the 'railway' provided by: Spectrum v2.5.1 and SOAR! v1.0b2 (LUMITECH, Cat 17, Top 12, Msg 6) >>>>> """"" I have an Apple internal fan clipped to the power supply of my GS, and an AE Conservor on top, with the monitor on top of that. The noise is noticeable, but not excessive. Bill Dooley BB Assistant (A2.BILL, Cat 17, Top 12, Msg 7) >>>>> """"" I have a System Saver with a replacement Radio Shack fan. Works great, and is quieter than my hard drive. Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Wed 11 Apr 01 8:10:27 pm cknoblo@home.com - Via Spectrum v2.5.1 & SOAR v1.0b2 2001: A KFest Odyssey, July 25-29, 2001 - 105 days till KFest On cable via LANceGS & Marinetti 2.0.1 - Thank you, Richard. A2 RTC Staff - Saturday Night House Party - carlk@syndicomm.com (CARLK, Cat 17, Top 12, Msg 8) >>>>> """"" >> Wouldn't it make sense to PUSH air through the top vent, thus pushing the dust OUT of the bottom vents? << I'm not sure the air just above your computer is any cleaner than the air below it. The main advantage in a system blowing air into your computer is that you have a better place to add a filter. But does anyone actually use a filter? I don't. :) Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Wed 11 Apr 01 8:14:45 pm cknoblo@home.com - Via Spectrum v2.5.1 & SOAR v1.0b2 2001: A KFest Odyssey, July 25-29, 2001 - 105 days till KFest On cable via LANceGS & Marinetti 2.0.1 - Thank you, Richard. A2 RTC Staff - Saturday Night House Party - carlk@syndicomm.com (CARLK, Cat 17, Top 12, Msg 9) >>>>> """"" Have used the System Saver, Conserver, MDIdeas, and a home built thingie. All except the MDIdeas have been adopted by other loving Apple II users:) I like the 3.5 drive and floppy disk bays as well as the power switch choices. Steve (KFESTSTEVE, Cat 17, Top 12, Msg 11) [EOA] [JGS] Juiced.GS, Volume 6, Issue 1 """""""""""""""""""""""""""" Announcing ... ===== Juiced.GS, Volume 6, Issue 1 ===== The April 2001 edition of Juiced.GS, the Apple II world's premier IIGS-specific magazine, was delivered to 175 subscribers in 40 states and numerous points around the globe. Here's what you'll find in this 24-page issue: ============ FEATURES Cover Story: The IIGS Launching Pad ... by Gareth Jones -- An in-depth review of the history behind program launchers that made the IIGS famous. Hardware: Keeping your 3.5-inch disk drives in top shape ... Tony Diaz, the foremost expert on Apple II hardware, delivers an in-depth tech-torial on the process of maintaining and sustaining the all-important disk drive on the IIGS. Once again this issue, Tony tells the story in words AND pictures. That's right, this feature is fully illustrated with five -- count 'em, FIVE -- photographs! The Virtual GS: Alternatives in emulation ... Ryan Suenaga goes in search of alien emulator beings and finds that his friend Bernie and Ernie aren't the only cool critters in town. COLUMNS My Home Page: Still lots of 'Wow' in Apple II world ... The editor takes his new iMac in for repairs and discovers an Apple tech with deep Apple II roots. They're everywhere!! II Be Named Later: Columnist Ryan Suenaga tips his hat to a most impressive final bow from the Byte Works. Desktop Publishing: Our DTP guru, Dave Bennett, explores the expanding world of digital photography and how it affects the work you do on modern computers. Telecommunications: Telecom columnist Tony Ward introduces us to a brand spankin' new Apple II library close to home. DEPARTMENTS Shareware Spotlight: Yahtzee, the famous board game, makes its way to the IIGS as a New Desk Accessory. DumplinGS: KFest 2001 registration begins; new developments at A2Central.com; An old online friend, Delphi, bids farewell to its text-based service and goes 100 percent to the Web; Kim Howe releases a new preview version of his IIGS Web browser and a Telnet NDA; and a new version of Spectrum, v2.5.2, is released. Letters from the Land of ROM: Readers ask questions, get answers, make suggestions, and otherwise give us a piece of their mind. We have the coolest readers in the world. Read our mail and see why. ADVERTISEMENTS A2Central.com; KFest 2001; Juiced.GS Friends for Life CD-ROM; and three new CDs, including Time in a Bottle, from Juiced.GS. ============ Juiced.GS is a quarterly, printed publication available by subscription only. A subscription for 2001 is $16 in the U.S., Canada or Mexico, $22 elsewhere. To subscribe, send a check or money order in U.S. funds to: Max Jones Juiced.GS 2217 Lakeview Drive Sullivan, IN 47882 Make checks or money orders payable to Max Jones. Complete sets of 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999 and 2000 issues are available for $16 each ($22 overseas). If you would like to purchase only a specific single copy (or copies) of back issues, they are available for $5 each ($7 overseas). An index and brief description of articles published in '96/'97'98/'99/'00 are available on the Juiced.GS web site. See URL below. Apple II Forever! Max Jones Juiced.GS E-mail -- Internet: juicedgs@earthlink.net World Wide Web: http://www.wbwip.com/juiced.gs (JUICEDGS, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 121) [EOA] [WBF] WHICH ONE BUG IN A SHEPPYWARE PROGRAM DO YOU WANT FIXED? """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" If you had one feature or bug fix you wanted to see in any SheppyWare program, what would it be? Eric 'Sheppy' Shepherd Owner Syndicomm Building communities bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 24, Top 1, Msg 17) >>>>> """"" Okay, you asked for it. :) The one thing I have always wanted is something other than a Finder Extra to edit my Shifty List scripts. As you probably remember, I use Wings instead of Finder most of the time, and it doesn't support Finder Extras. An editor in the form of a NDA or a separate application would sure be nice. - Tony (A2.TONY, Cat 24, Top 1, Msg 18) [EOA] [SCD] Totally SheppyWare CD-ROM """"""""""""""""""""""""" Totally SheppyWare is a CD-ROM containing all the software I've written (and released to the public). Included with it is "The Complete Guide to SheppyWare", a nearly 300-page book containing documentation for all the software on the CD. This package costs $50, which covers more than $100 worth of shareware fees. A bargain! Eric 'Sheppy' Shepherd Owner Syndicomm Building communities bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 24, Top 2, Msg 1) [EOA] [DMR] DISKMAKER """"""""" DiskMaker lets you turn your disk images (in Universal Disk Image, DiskCopy 4.2, and DiskCopy 6 formats) into real disks, using a simple and convenient user interface. Eric 'Sheppy' Shepherd Owner Syndicomm Building communities bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 24, Top 8, Msg 1) [EOA] [KNF] KeyNotifier """"""""""" KeyNotifier is a control panel for the IIgs that adds the ability to display an icon in the menu bar indicating the state of the caps lock key. In addition, you can assign various meanings to the lights on an extended keyboard, such as "caps lock", "system beep", "system crash", and "disk access". Very snazzy. Bonus Trivia Round: The original name of KeyNotifier was "CapsNotifier", which is why the icon for it is a speech bubble with the word "caps" in it. Eric 'Sheppy' Shepherd Owner Syndicomm Building communities bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 24, Top 11, Msg 1) [EOA] [PBT] ProBOOT """"""" ProBOOT is a utility for the Apple IIgs that lets you configure the default system speed to use when booting each slot; a menu is available at boot time to let you select a slot to boot. You can boot from any port or slot in your computer -- without messing with control panel settings -- at any speed. You can even boot from a drive connected to a PC Transporter. A Finder extension is provided for configuring the ProBOOT menu. ProBOOT is shareware, and is included on the Totally SheppyWare CD-ROM. Eric 'Sheppy' Shepherd Owner Syndicomm Building communities bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 24, Top 13, Msg 1) [EOA] [SLS] SHIFTY LIST """"""""""" The quintessential Apple IIgs boot manager, Shifty List has been an incredibly popular product. Create alternate sets of extensions, desk accessories, sounds, graphics, and more to be loaded during the boot process when shift-booting the computer. There's even the ability to assign sets to keys on the keyboard that you can hit when shift-booting to automatically engage that set. Or you can pop up a menu at boot time and select the set you want to use. Eric 'Sheppy' Shepherd Owner Syndicomm Building communities bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 24, Top 14, Msg 1) [EOA] [SRS] SmartRestart """""""""""" SmartRestart lets you split the Shut Down option in the Finder (which normally calls up a dialog box letting you specify whether to shut down, restart, or quit the Finder) into separate menu items. Add a Restart option to the Special menu, and/or a Quit option to the File menu. Change their keyboard equivalents (or remove them entirely) if you wish. Ah, the control... the power... Eric 'Sheppy' Shepherd Owner Syndicomm Building communities bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 24, Top 15, Msg 1) [EOA] [PLS] POINTLESS """"""""" Okay, the other day in chat. The topic of "Pointless" came up. I know it lets you use True Type fonts on your GS. I was just wondering if people feel that it is a worthy addition to your GS library and what limitations maybe be involved in this software package. Thanks, Dain Neater Bulletin Board Manager A2 Syndicomm is my life....:) Brought to you via Terminal (A2.DAIN, Cat 26, Top 2, Msg 62) >>>>> """"" Once you try Pointless you will never want to be without it. Lyle Syverson Editor, _The Lamp!_, published monthly (LYLE, Cat 26, Top 2, Msg 63) >>>>> """"" Replying to 'Dain' in Category 26 Topic 2: Limitations? I've been too busy noticing how it expands the utility of all my printing to notice any limitations. :) I can make preview sheets on the Mac easier and faster than on the GS, so I do that there. Then I pick what I like, and if I don't already have it on the GS, I copy it over. Thus any font available for the Mac is available for the GS. With Fontpimp, I can even get fonts from any Windows machine. Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Sun 6 May 01 10:13:11 pm cknoblo@home.com - Via Spectrum v2.5.1 & SOAR v1.0b3 2001: A KFest Odyssey, July 25-29, 2001 - 80 days till KFest On cable via LANceGS & Marinetti 2.0.1 - Thank you, Richard. A2 RTC Staff - Saturday Night House Party - carlk@syndicomm.com (CARLK, Cat 26, Top 2, Msg 64) >>>>> """"" Pointless was one of the best things to happen for the IIgs. Ryan Head Geek (A2.RYAN, Cat 26, Top 2, Msg 65) >>>>> """"" If apple had released a system 7.0 for the IIgs, I would like to think they would have bought the rights to Pointless and integrated it in. If you do any kind of printing from gs/os, it will make your printouts so much better, and can save disk space since you only need 1 Times font vs Times.08, Times.10, Times.12, ... Times.72 (KWS, Cat 26, Top 2, Msg 66) >>>>> """"" As the author of the Pointless program manual and as the distributor of the software, you might think I was just a little biased if I said that I couldn't live without it, so I'm glad others have "taken the words right out of my mouth" :-) So, I'll get right to the Pointless point... Pointless is available from Shareware Solutions II for $20. Joe Kohn Shareware Solutions II 166 Alpine St San Rafael, CA 94901 Joe Kohn Delivered by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR v1.0b3 http://users.foxvalley.net/~joko (JOKO, Cat 26, Top 2, Msg 69) [EOA] [STF] SPECTRUM v2.5.2 VS v2.5.1 """"""""""""""""""""""""" I have noticed that Spectrum has been updated to v2.5.2. What is the difference between v2.5.1? Mark Percival - RTC Host "Midweek Madness!" every Wednesday Night. (MARK, Cat 26, Top 5, Msg 48) >>>>> """"" After releasing the public 2.5.1 update, I made a very minor change to try and fix the TextEdit problem that strikes every so often due to the bugs in TextEdit. This version then became 2.5.2, and is the currently release version issued by Shareware Solutions II. The public 2.5.1 updater will only update version 2.4 onwards. The 2.5.2 updater from SSII will update from version 2.2 onwards. Those using 2.5.1, and having no problems with TextEdit, do not need to upgrade to 2.5.2. Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Sat 21 Apr 2001 - 95 days till KFest '01 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR 1.0b1 Setup: Bernie ][ the Rescue 3.0 and a Blue & White G3/350 http://www.ewannop.btinternet.co.uk/ (CONDUCTOR, Cat 26, Top 5, Msg 49) [EOA] [SBT] SPECTRUM... BINARY MODE WITH A TELNET CONNECTION """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Some of you may have noticed some messages recently about Binary mode using Spectrum Telnet. Others may be having difficulty making Zmodem transfers with a Telnet connection. I have placed a 'Patcher.3' XCMD on my web site that addresses these issues. It forces a willing host into Binary mode so Zmodem and other 8-bit transfers will work. Just drop it into the Add.Ons:XCMDs folder of you working Spectrum 2.5.1 or 2.5.2, and then when you start up Spectrum and make a Telnet connection, the connection will be in Binary mode from then on. Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Sat 28 Apr 2001 - 88 days till KFest '01 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR 1.0b1 Setup: Bernie ][ the Rescue 3.0 and a Blue & White G3/350 http://www.ewannop.btinternet.co.uk/ (CONDUCTOR, Cat 26, Top 5, Msg 50) [EOA] [SPS] SPECTRUM SCRIPTS """""""""""""""" FWIW, I have a Spectrum script that is helping me build whole categories in the new Syndicomm.com communities. Nice to work up a text file of topic names and descriptions on any text editor, run a Spectrum script, and in a minute, have more than 60 topics available :) Ryan Head Geek (A2.RYAN, Cat 26, Top 6, Msg 9) >>>>> """"" Ryan, In your script, is there a limit on the length of topic descriptions? Since I'm creating multiple categories, I've written several text files that need to be processed. I think I am going to add a Get File command to the script, rather than rename each text file to a hardcoded default. Very useful script! It came along just in time for me. -Ken (KGAGNE, Cat 26, Top 6, Msg 10) >>>>> """"" >> In your script, is there a limit on the length of topic descriptions? << 255 characters, I think, or whatever length Spectrum limits a single string variable to. >> Very useful script! It came along just in time for me. << Thanks. Came along just in time for me too ;-) Ryan Head Geek Visit the Palm OS Forum at page 590! (A2.RYAN, Cat 26, Top 6, Msg 11) >>>>> """"" >>> In your script, is there a limit on the length of topic descriptions? >> 255 characters, I think, or whatever length Spectrum limits a single >> string variable to. I am glad to see that someone other than me is writing Spectrum scripts! :) The limit for a variable is 255 characters. If you want to work with data larger than that, then use EditorHandles instead. There is no limit to the size of the data if you do that. There is however a limit of ten EditorHandles at a time, so you might need to park them on disk while you work. Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Sat 12 May 2001 - 74 days till KFest '01 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR 1.0b3 Setup: Bernie ][ the Rescue 3.0 and a Blue & White G3/350 http://www.ewannop.btinternet.co.uk/ (CONDUCTOR, Cat 26, Top 6, Msg 12) [EOA] [FWS] FishWings """"""""" ***UPDATE*** FishWings by Charlie Danemark has been updated to version 0.78e. Now includes limited DOS 3.3 support. Freeware available for download from: http://www3.bboard.com/charlied/fishwings.htm Mark RTC Host (MARK, Cat 29, Top 5, Msg 10) >>>>> """"" Here are more details from the FishWings website: Fishwings is a Windows utility for viewing files (and their properties) on Apple ][ ProDOS disk images. You can also import and export files between the disk image and Windows. Within the image, files can be copied, deleted or renamed (including file type and access). New folders can also be created and new disk images can be created. There are also functions for viewing the disk image on a lower level. (KGAGNE, Cat 29, Top 5, Msg 11) [EOA] [SWK] SUCCESS WITH KEGS """"""""""""""""" I have managed to get KEGS to compile on OSX under the XFREE86 port for Darwin. The project page will be http://www.apple2gs.com/kegsosx sometime tomorrow. Wayne (WAYNER, Cat 29, Top 40, Msg 1) >>>>> """"" Check out http://www.apple2gs.com for information on the project and a screen shot! I know have it running in Rootless X mode. Wayner (WAYNER, Cat 29, Top 40, Msg 7) >>>>> """"" Looks good. :) How's the speed? I'm not sure how fast of a Mac you're running it under, so it's hard for me to get a guess as to how quick Bernie would run under the same Mac. Ryan Head Geek (A2.RYAN, Cat 29, Top 40, Msg 8) >>>>> """"" The speed is good, but the mouse is awful. I need to talk to the kegs32 guy and see what he is doing to get better mouse control. I'm running on a Powerbook Prismo 2000 G3-400 (wish I had spent the extra$ on the 500 now) Wayne (WAYNER, Cat 29, Top 40, Msg 9) [EOA] [BTN] BETA TESTERS NEEDED """"""""""""""""""" Ok, I'm looking for a few good err... people to beta-test my Hammurabi game. Remember that one? It was (in my memory) a text-based applesoft game where you took the role of King Hammurabi, and had to allocate resources for your city. Sort of a pre-cursor to Sim City. Anyway, I've written a GS version of that (inspired in part by Sheppy's release of Lemonade Stand GS at KFest last year), and I need some people to beat on it. If you're interested, please respond here, or email me at tcompter@gdarm.com Thanks for your time. _________ | homas (TCOMPTER, Cat 50, Top 3, Msg 1) [EOA] [BAE] BEST APPLESOFT EDITOR? """""""""""""""""""""" What's the best Applesoft editor? I'm kind of looking for one. Eric 'Sheppy' Shepherd Owner Syndicomm Building communities bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 51, Top 19, Msg 1) >>>>> """"" Sheppy, I used Beagle Bros.' Program Writer back when I ran a BBS using Warp Six, which is written in Applesoft BASIC. The difference between the built-in Applesoft editor, and Program Writer, was night and day. I've never used any other editors so I have no basis for comparison, but Program Writer was recently reclassified as freeware thanks to the Lost Classics program. I haven't used GSoft BASIC nearly as much as I'd like to; can it save/export classic Applesoft programs? -Ken (KGAGNE, Cat 51, Top 19, Msg 3) >>>>> """"" Sheppy, I use Beagle Bros' Program Writer for my AppleSoft editor. I rather like it. It allows the use of macros and OA commands for shortcuts. You can switch back and forth between the editor and AppleSoft command line to test your program as you go along. Steve (S.BERNBAUM, Cat 51, Top 19, Msg 4) >>>>> """"" >> I haven't used GSoft BASIC nearly as much as I'd like to; can it save/export classic Applesoft programs? << Yes, it can import most AppleSoft programs just fine-and export them too, but you have to be careful to only use features common too both or you'll have a lot of editing to do. GSoft BASIC is a great program, but except for the most trivial programs you are looking at a complete rewrite if you import standard AppleSoft programs. If only someone would write a 100% AppleSoft BASIC language and take advantage of the features of the GS (even simply using all memory and using the super-res screen instead of the hi-res one). Hmm, is this in the right topic? :) Jeff Fink (FINKSTERJ, Cat 51, Top 19, Msg 6) >>>>> """"" >> What's the best Applesoft editor? I'm kind of looking for one. << What, the built-in editing features not good enough? :) This probably doesn't help, but I've used a simple line editor from Nibble that loads completely into page 3 space for the longest time, plus a tiny ampersand BASIC find utility (also from Nibble). Wrote virtually every program in BASIC with that combo-including Silvern Castle (can't help plugging my stuff). :) When I need to do extensive changes (such as adding another field to hundreds of DATA statements) I import/export from AppleWorks. But you have to be careful here because long lines get split causing problems. I've got Program Writer (I think there's a MicroDot version that came with MircoDot), but I've never tried it much. Many AppleSoft utilities don't like big programs, and unfortunately much of Beagle Bros stuff doesn't like my stuff because of that. Does anybody know the largest sized program editable by Program Writer? Oh yeah, another valuable utility is my own AppleSoft compare utility. This will display all differences between two programs, a must-have if you screw-up a lot (sadly, I can hardly program without it). :) Some things simply is really the best, soon you may say "Poke 33,33: LIST" in your sleep... :) Jeff Fink (FINKSTERJ, Cat 51, Top 19, Msg 8) >>>>> """"" I used PLE (Program Line Editor) from Neil Konzen. This was a great DOS 3.3 Applesoft line editor. You could program escape key sequences (esc 1 could do CATALOG,D1 for example) as well as editing specific lines in either Applesoft or Integer BASIC. I have no idea what the status is of this but perhaps this would be a good candidate for Lost Classics? Mark Percival - RTC Host "Midweek Madness!" Wednesdays 7:00 PM - 9:00 PM PDT (MARK, Cat 51, Top 19, Msg 11) [EOA] ------------------------------------ DISTILLATIONS FROM DELPHI A2 | ------------------------------------ by Lyle Syverson [GRA] Google (Formerly DejaNews) RESTORES ARCHIVES """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" It might be of interest to those out there reading this that Google (formerly DejaNews) has finally revived the Usenet message archive dating back to 1995! An absolute *tremendous* amount of *invaluable* Apple II information can be found in this archive, with answers to most any question you might have. Just follow this URL: http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search Enter "comp.sys.apple2" in the Newsgroup field and type in keywords related to the information your searching for. You'll be surprised how useful it is (in fact it's quite useful for researching just about any known topic, not just the Apple II). I thought this may come in handy to those finding a lack of resources with Delphi A2 Forum in a near-death state. Mitchell Spector a_specto@alcor.concordia.ca (SPECTOR1, 3441.1, Delphi A2 web side) [EOA] [SCR] SAMURAI (IRC CLIENT FOR IIgs) RELEASED """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" May 9, 2001 Samurai released Samurai is an Internet Relay Chat (IRC) client for the Apple IIGS. Using TCP/IP (Marinetti), it is now possible to connect to IRC chat servers and take part in discussions. Get it here: http://www.ninjaforce.com -- Jesse Blue / Ninjaforce E-MAIL: jesseblue@ninjaforce.com ICQ: 8895643 WWW: http://www.ninjaforce.com (JESSEBLUE, 3446.1, Delphi A2 web side) [EOA] ------------------------------------ DISTILLATIONS FROM DELPHI A2P | ------------------------------------ by Lyle Syverson [PUR] PMPUnzip REMINDER """"""""""""""""" PMPUnzip works with .zip archives up to v2.04g. It stops working if the archive contains files with MS-DOS long file names that was introduced with Windows 95. Mark Percival Syndicomm.com RTC Host "Midweek Madness" every Wednesday night! 7:00 pm - 9:00 pm Pacific Time (PERCIM, 407.5, Delphi A2P web side) [EOA] ------------------------------------ LETTERS TO THE EDITOR | ------------------------------------ [NLE] NO LETTERS TO THE EDITOR THIS MONTH """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" The mail box for Letters to the Editor remained empty this month. [EOA] [LTE] AN INVITATION ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Express your opinions about the comings and goings in the world of the Apple II computers. Send your comments to Lyle Syverson, Editor The Editor reserves the right to edit any material submitted. The Editor reserves the right to reject any material he considers unsuitable for publication in _The Lamp!_. [EOA] [KFE]------------------------------- THINKING KFEST | ------------------------------------ The KFest FAQ--Ready for an Oddessey in 2001 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ by Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. [thelamp@sheppyware.net] The KFest FAQ Version 3.0 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The following article is set up in a form commonly seen on the Internet, called Frequently Asked Questions. It is designed to answer some of the most common questions people have about KansasFest, the Apple II event of the year. It is not designed to answer general questions about the Apple II, although there may be some overlap. Any questions about this article can be sent via email to thelamp@sheppyware.net Q: What's a FAQ, and how is it pronounced? A: The letters "FAQ" stand for _F_requently _A_sked _Q_uestions. When people first hear of or learn of a subject, such as KansasFest, they often have a number of questions which others before them did when they also first learned of the same subject. A FAQ is a document listing both the questions and answers most frequently associated with new users, to save themselves (and others trying to assist them) time and frustration. And by the way, it's pronounced "fack", nearly identical to "fact". Q: What is the purpose of this FAQ? A: This FAQ is set up to assist people interested in KansasFest, also known as KFest. Many Apple II enthusiasts are interested in attending or just want some information about this event, so the most common questions are answered here. Q: How can this FAQ be distributed? A: The content of this FAQ is copyright 1999-2001 by Ryan M. Suenaga, the publisher of _The Lamp!_. Distribution without the expressed written consent of the copyright holder is prohibited. Q: What is KFest? A: KansasFest, abbreviated "KFest", is a computing conference held every summer at Avila College in Kansas City, Missouri. Its original formal name was "The Apple II Summer Conference" while its nickname was "KansasFest", which was abbreviated to "KFest". Q: When was the first KFest held? A: The first KansasFest was held in 1989. It was originally sponsored by Resource-Central, the folks who brought you the wonderful _Open-Apple_ and _A2-Central_ (among several other Apple II) publications. After Resource-Central became ICON, The Apple II Summer Conference became ICONference. This lasted one summer until ICON shut down. Two different companies sponsored KFest before Intrec Software, publishers of _ProTERM_, took over a few years back. This July will welcome the lucky 13th KFest. Q: When is KFest this year? A: KansasFest 2001 runs from Wednesday through Sunday, July 25-29, 2001. For the second year, KFesters are being offered an extra night, Tuesday, July 24, at the Avila dorms if they want to come into town a day early--and it seems most everyone does. Q: Where is KFest held? A: KFest is held at Avila College in Kansas City, Missouri. The address and phone number are: Avila College 11901 Wornall Road Kansas City, Missouri 64145 United States of America (816) 942-8400 Q: If it's held in Missouri, why is it called KansasFest? A: I dunno. If it makes you feel better, the Kansas border is very close to Avila College. Q: Who comes to KFest? A: While KFest was originally devoted to programmers, nowadays all kinds of folk from all over the world show up at Avila College. Programmers, users, newsletter publishers, and everyday folk show up from Europe, Canada, Australia, and all over the United States to celebrate the Apple II. Q: Who organizes KFest? A: Currently, KFest is organized by a committee headed by The Grand Gouda, Steve "Godzilla" Gozdziewski, who has taken over from The Big Cheese, Cindy Adams. Cindy remains on the committee. The scheduling is done by Stan Marks. There are several other folks on the committee as well: Jerry Cline, Allen Moore, and Max Jones all pitch in. In addition to those good folk on the committee, David Kerwood handles the maintenance of the World Wide Web site, Devin Reade maintains the email lists, and Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd provides World Wide Web hosting services and organizes HackFest, the programming contest. KFest is sponsored by Intrec Software. Q: How do I register for KFest? How much does it cost? A: Depending on when you register, registration prices vary. If you register early, you'll get a better deal; if you register early -and- you're a repeat KFester (meaning you've been to KFest within the last couple of years), you'll get an even better deal (but at the time of this writing, that deadline has passed). Please check the KFest Home Page at http://www.kfest.org/ for the most current information. Q: Which airport do I fly into and how do I get from there to Avila? A: The major airport nearly everyone flies into is Kansas City International, which goes by the code letters MCI (not KCI, which will get you to Indonesia). There's a couple of small commuter airports which are closer, but unless you're Tony Diaz, you're not likely to use these. Even though MCI is the "closest" major airport, it's still most of an hour's drive from there to Avila, so walking is out of the question and cab fare would be substantial. Your best bet would be to try and catch a ride with another KFester who'll be flying in or passing by around the same time you'll be arriving. Carl Knoblock unofficially organizes rides to and from the airport. The best way to get in on the ride planning is to join the KFest email list (information on subscribing is elsewhere in this document). Q: What kind of official activities go on at KFest? A: Officially, there is a keynote speech (this year given by Syndicomm owner and prolific Apple II programmer Eric Shepherd), sessions on various computing topics, HackFest, a celebrity roast (_Juiced.GS_ publisher Max Jones is the victim of honor this year), product demonstrations, and a vendor fair. Q: What kind of unofficial activities go on at KFest? A: Unofficially, there's been movie outings, pizza nights, Bite The Bag contests, late night eating at Denny's, and huge groups of folks going to eat huge pieces of beef at K.C. Masterpiece and Jess and Jim's restaurants. Q: Has anyone attended every KFest? A: One person: Tony Diaz of Alltech Electronics. Q: I hear that the Avila College dorm is wired for Ethernet. Is there a way I can access that while I'm there? A: Yes. In each dorm room in the halls of Avila are two outlets that seem to be phone jacks. These _aren't_ phone jacks. They're Ethernet ports--to be exact, they're RJ-45 connectors that are compatible with 10 Base-T Ethernet. The entire Avila dorm is connected to the Internet this way, making for high speed World Wide Web browsing, electronic mail, and ftp connections for KansasFesters during their stay! Those bringing their true blue Apple IIs will be needing to go the tried and true modem route aside from LANceGS owners--and even they will need assistance in the form of a router, as the LANceGS does not currently support the required DHCP standard used on Avila's campus--but those KFesters who bring Ethernet-capable computers of other platforms can make full use of these high speed connections. Let's look at what hardware and software is needed to get this high speed resource working with your non-Apple II. THE HARDWARE All Avila provides is the RJ-45 jack. This looks like an """""""""""" overgrown RJ-11 jack (the kind your telephone plugs into), and in fact, it's a close relative. What you need to bring is a computer with an appropriate 10 Base-T Ethernet interface and a cable that ends in a male RJ-45 jack. There are many, many of these cables on the market. If you are going to purchase one, be sure it's a straight-through class 5 cable, not a crossover cable. Additionally, due to the way the RJ-45 jack is mounted, you will need a cable ending with a RJ-45 male jack that is not molded with a surrounding sheath, as the cable will not fit properly. You want a cable end that looks like this: ASCII ART BEGINS ___________ | | | | | | | | <--- Male RJ-45 | | | | | |___| <-|------ Locking tab | | | | | | |___________| | | | | <------ Cable | | as opposed to this: ___________ | | | | | | | | <--- Male RJ-45 | | | | | |___| <-|------ Locking tab | | | | _|___________|_ | | | | | | | | <-- Large, molded sheath | | | | |_______________| | | | | <------ Cable | | ASCII ART ENDS I had problems with this at KFest 1998. If you need to get different cables (or need other hardware in general) you can ask your fellow attendees if they have extras, or you can run over to the CompUSA in the area to get what you need. If someone brings an Ethernet hub, perhaps you can plug into that instead of into the jack provided by Avila. Once you have this equipment, simply plug in your RJ-45 cable into the provided jack. You do not need an Ethernet hub unless you'll be running more than two devices in your room. THE SOFTWARE The Avila Ethernet server uses a protocol called Dynamic """""""""""" Host Configuration Protocol, or DHCP, for short. Those of you who have set up TCP/IP connections with Windows or Macintosh computers (or, for that matter, the Apple IIgs) probably have some familiarity with inserting IP addresses, DNS addresses, and Gateway addresses. The beauty of DHCP is that it sets up nearly everything you need dynamically, meaning that the server assigns these addresses--all you need to do is set up TCP/IP on your computer and choose the DHCP protocol. I am much more familiar with the setup of DHCP for Macintosh computers than for Windows machines, and am taking the Windows instructions from a reference. MAC To set up a Macintosh running Open Transport networking for DHCP, ''' all that needs to be done is to switch the TCP/IP protocol to DHCP Server. So: (1) Get into your TCP/IP Control Panel; (2) Select "Ethernet" (or "Built-in Ethernet" or "Alternate Ethernet" as appropriate) in the "Connect via:" field; (3) Select "DHCP Server" in the "Configure" field; (4) Quit and save the changes. WINDOWS 95 To set up a Windows 95 machine for DHCP, there are several '''''''''' additional steps: (1) Get into your Network Control panel; (2) Add or select the appropriate Ethernet interface; (3) Set the "Obtain an IP address automatically" control in the "IP Address" tab of the TCP/IP Properties window; (4) Remove any existing setting for a Gateway address in the "Gateway" tab of the TCP/IP Properties window; (5) Disable DNS in the "DNS Configuration" tab of the TCP/IP Properties window; (6) Save the settings and reboot the computer. Regardless of which platform you use, if you have software set up to share your hard drive with other computers, you probably ought to disable it--unless you like everyone in the Avila Ethernet having access to your files. At this point, you ought to be connected. If you previously had any proxy servers set up for use with your setup before Avila, disable them. You ought to have easy access for checking mail, browsing the Web, or using file transfer protocol--and very high speeds. One last caveat: THE SMTP SERVER As Spam on the Internet proliferates, it has become """"""""""""""" accepted practice to close off an Internet Service Provider's mail sending server--usually using Simple Mail Transfer Protocol, or smtp--to access from anyone who is not directly connected to the ISP. In other words, no one wants to be a relaying point for Spam. Because of this, it's likely you will not be able to use the same smtp server you use at home to send mail while at Avila. There is, however, a mail.avila.edu smtp server that can be used while at Avila. That ought to keep your email flowing freely. Q: How can I learn more about KFest? A: You can get more information on KansasFest by visiting the KansasFest World Wide Web site at http://www.kfest.org/ or sending email to kfest-help@kfest.org. You could also subscribe to the KFest mailing list by sending email to majordomo@kfest.org. In the body of the email include the text: subscribe kfest You will receive a confirmation email with instructions on finalizing your subscription. Q: Should I go to KFest? A: Need you ask? KFest is a must for the serious Apple II fanatic. Do yourself a favor--you're worth it. Show up at KFest 2001--a KFest oddessey! [EOA] [KFT]------------------------------ KFest 2001 | ----------------------------------- [KFE] K FEST EARLY BIRD REGISTRATION DEADLINE EXTENDED TO MAY 1 """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" (April 2, 2001) KFEST REGISTRATION UPDATE: +++ Deadline Extension: To allow everyone the opportunity to attend this exciting event, the (early bird registration) deadline has been extended to MAY 1st! +++ Please note: You MUST send the NEW registration form below (via postal mail) when you register. (KFESTSTEVE, Cat 5, Top 3, Msg 77) [EOA] [KFR] K FEST REGISTRATION INFORMATION """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""" KFest 2001 Registration Info... meet old A2 friends... meet new friends... """""""""""""""""""""""""""" Help usher in the new millennium with the Apple II!! When: July 25-29, 2001 Where: Avila College, Kansas City, Missouri The most important Apple II event of the year, KFest 2001, is on our calendar again, and it's never too early to make sure it has a place on your calendar, too. Better yet, KFest is back with the same great prices as last year! Check these rates, which include room and meals from Wednesday evening (dinner) on July 25, through Sunday morning (breakfast) on July 29. (Saturday evening dinner not included. That's KFesters' Night Out On The Town!) KFest 2001 Registration Form View and print this document using 9-point Monaco or Courier font (the default of most monospaced font applications such as ProTERM & Spectrum). Registering for KFest 2001: NOTE: - The information requested in the KFest Registration Form below must be sent even though the information is called in. - If a member of the family accompanies you to KFest, please send a separate registration form for each person. <> Fax or email KFest Registration Form using a credit card number: - Complete the form below and send the KFest Registration Form; (EMAIL IS NOT SECURE). <> By postal mail: Credit card, check, Purchase Order or money order: - Print and fill out the KFest Registration Form. - Send the form with the payment to: InTrec Software, Inc. Attn: KFest Registration Voc: 602/992-1345 3035 E Topaz Cir Fax: 602/992-0232 Phoenix, Az 85028-4423 Discover, Visa, Mastercard or AmEx accepted. Checks & money orders must be payable to InTrec Software, and must be in US dollars from a US bank. ---[ The Form ]------------[ Cut Here ]----------[ Print Clearly ]--- =>___ =>___ First Name Last Name =>___ Organization (if applicable to KFest) =>___ Shipping Address =>___ City =>___ State/Province Zip+4 or Postal Code =>___ =>___ Day Phone Eve Phone =>___ Internet Mail Address =>___ =>___ Credit Card Number (Mastercard-Visa-Discovery-AmEx) Expiration Date =>___ Name on Card (please print clearly) =>___ Authorized Signature (If printed, and mailed or faxed.) If you feel that using a credit card number via email may not be secure, consider mailing via postal service, fax, or call voice to give the card number. Checks and money orders must be on a USA bank and USA compatible funds. Registration Cost Check Applicable ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1 [ ] Early Arrival Double room ............................ 25.00 2 [ ] Early Arrival Single room ............................ 33.00 +++ Early Bird rates (Register BEFORE May 1) +++ 7 [ ] Double Room before 5/1 ............................... 225.00 8 [ ] Single Room before 5/1 ............................... 275.00 9 [ ] Spouse or child before 5/1 ........................... 175.00 10 [ ] Registration only (no room or meals) before 5/1 ...... 175.00 +++ Regular Attendee rates (Register AFTER May 1) +++ Rates (after May 1 and at the door): 11 [ ] Double Room after 5/1 ................................ 275.00 12 [ ] Single Room after 5/1 ................................ 325.00 13 [ ] Spouse or child after 5/1 ............................ 225.00 14 [ ] Registration only (no room or meals) after 5/1 ....... 225.00 T-Shirts must be ordered in advance 15 [ ] T-Shirt softwear Small ............................... 15.00 16 [ ] T-Shirt softwear Medium .............................. 15.00 17 [ ] T-Shirt softwear Large ............................... 15.00 18 [ ] T-Shirt softwear X-Large ............................. 15.00 19 [ ] T-Shirt softwear XX-Large ............................ 15.00 20 [ ] T-Shirt softwear XXX-Large ........................... 15.00 May we send your registration confirmation via e-mail? [ ]Yes [ ]No [ ] As a PDF (Acrobat Reader) file (preferred) [ ] As a TEXT file mailed to the listed address Roommate preference: =>___ Prefer smoking/non-smoking roommate: [ ] Smoke [ ] Non-smoke Today's Date: _=>___ / / 1- Registration fee (see above dates & fees) ......... =>__ 2- Registration fee for spouse if applicable ......... =>__ 3- T-Shirts Quantity [ ] @ $15.00 ea) ................ =>__ 4- Sub-total of lines 1-3: ........................... =>__ 5- Arizona residents only add 7.5% tax: .............. =>__ 6- Total cost (total of lines 4-5): .................. =>__ For attendees planning to arrive at the normal time on Wednesday, check-in will be from 1-4 pm. Check-out will be from 11 am-1 pm on Sunday. Current plans call for formal KFest 2001 sessions to begin with dinner in the Avila cafeteria on Wednesday evening (time to be announced), followed by the traditional opening event, the Keynote Address. We've got some great plans again for that opening night activity. Stay tuned!! Computer sessions will be conducted on Thursday and Friday. Software and hardware demos are scheduled for Saturday morning, with a vendor fair slated for Saturday afternoon. Reminder: Meals included in the registration price are Wednesday dinner through Sunday breakfast, with the exception of Saturday dinner. On Saturday night, attendees can dine on their own at one of the many fine restaurants near the Avila campus, or join groups of KFesters at a local favorite selected by the Roastee. All children under 18 years must be accompanied by a parent or legal guardian. *** KFest 2001 is again being sponsored by InTrec Software, Inc., makers of ProTERM telecommunications software for the Apple II and Macintosh. If you have questions about KFest, or wish to make suggestions, you can find answers via the Internet. Just send an email message to: kfest-help@kfest.org ... or visit the KFest World Wide Web page: If you're thinking about attending KFest, you'll enjoy the KFest Internet e-mail chat: To subscribe to the KFest Information Mailing List, send email to: . Place the following text in the BODY of the message: subscribe kfest You will receive a confirmation e-mail. To be signed up for the list, you will have to respond to this confirmation as the instructions dictate, and then you will then be able send and read messages on the mailing list. Sponsored by: InTrec Software, Inc. 3035 E Topaz Circle Phoenix, AZ 85028-4423 Voc:602/992-1345 Fax:602/992-0232 (KFESTSTEVE, Cat 5, Top 3, Msg 77) [EOA] [RGF] K-Fest ROOMS GOING FAST """"""""""""""""""""""" The early registration deadline is just a few days away. Ok, everyone might know that already BUT there is another thing you should also consider if you haven't yet registered. Avila College has only guaranteed us a fixed number of rooms and most have been taken already. In the past Avila has been able to give us a few more rooms but that might not be the case this year. It's their call and if they have other groups on campus at the same time we may not be able to get additional rooms:( After all you've already planned don't miss out on KFest 2001 because you registered too late! (KFESTSTEVE, Cat 5, Top 3, Msg 84) [EOA] [KFM] K-Fest MEMORIES """"""""""""""" I've had chiggers every year I've been to KFest. I know to stay off the grass, but I can't stay away from that swing. :) Cindy (CINDYADAMS, Cat 5, Top 10, Msg 5) >>>>> """"" One of my favorite KFest memories is the last KFest Burger Bill attended, with Weird Al music blaring and a few of us singing along at the tops of our lungs. '96, I think it was. Eric 'Sheppy' Shepherd Owner Syndicomm Building communities bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 5, Top 10, Msg 6) >>>>> """"" Funny moment from KFest 2000: waking up at 6 am to use the bathroom, opening the door, and having about 200 5.25 inch floppy disks come cascading down at my feet. Well, after I made it to the bathroom, slept another hour, ate what passed for breakfast, and got some caffeine, it was funny :-) Ryan Chief Sysop and Head Geek (A2.RYAN, Cat 5, Top 10, Msg 7) >>>>> """"" I enjoyed making s'mores on the gas grills. It was a little unconventional, but I couldn't figure out where else we could have a campfire. It all started in the RTC on GEnie when we were trying to explain to Richard Bennett about s'mores. He figured out marshmallows and Hershey bars, but graham crackers were something we couldn't quite explain. The differences between cookies, crackers, biscuits, and digestives got lost in the "English translation". Richard was the KFest roastee that year. So after he was done being roasted, we all went out onto the patio and roasted marshmallows and had s'mores. I hope everyone else enjoyed this "campfire" treat as much as I did. Cindy (CINDYADAMS, Cat 5, Top 10, Msg 13) >>>>> """"" One of my favorite KFest moments was in 1996, my first KFest, when Greg Templeman tried to explain the algorithm theory he was applying to a new piece of movie software he was attempting to write. ... at 3 o'clock in the morning. Heck, I wouldn't have been able to understand what he was saying even if I had been wide awake. :-) Max P.S. There have been so many great KFest moments for me, I could compile a list that would last for days. I'll spare you all those details, except to mention that one of them includes an episode when Howard Katz and I unwisely let Ryan Suenaga drive to the airport. :-0!!!! (JUICEDGS, Cat 5, Top 10, Msg 11) >>>>> """"" Max, if you remember, Ryan ended up NOT driving to the airport. I think that's the proper way of phrasing that little incident. (It's one of the ...uh....highlights of my 1st Kfest, too. :) ) Later..........Howard (A2.HOWARD, Cat 5, Top 10, Msg 14) >>>>> """"" Ah yes, I remember it well. .... Getting lost in downtown KC, searching frantically for the outer interstate loop, then, just when it seemed we would actually find our destination, Ryan, while cruising in heavy traffic at 70 mph, saying, matter-of-factly, "hmmmmm, my eyes are watering, I can't see!!" Seems as though Ryan was having an allergic reaction to mainland air pollutants. He managed to pull off to the side of the interstate and swap vehicle positions with Howard. It was an interesting ride. :-) Max P.S. We found the airport, picked up Greg Templeman, and got back to KC Masterpiece, where I then met a series of Apple folks I had been reading about for years: Sheppy, Burger Bill, Michael Lutynski, James Smith, Tim Kellers, etc. I was star-struck!! (JUICEDGS, Cat 5, Top 10, Msg 15) >>>>> """"" Another thing I enjoyed about my KFest experience: one evening a bunch of us were taking the night air (and adult beverages) out in front of the dorm when some rambunctious students broke a window right in front of us. The large and intimidating Donnie Grimes instantly flipped into Corrections Officer mode and put the fear of the Lord into them. Every school needs a Donnie. Bill Dooley BB Assistant (A2.BILL, Cat 5, Top 10, Msg 19) [EOA] [INN]------------------------------ EXTRA INNINGS | ----------------------------------- About The Lamp! The Lamp! is published on the fifteenth of every month in """"""""""""""" the Database of the II Scribe Forum on the Delphi online service (GO CUS 11). This publication produced entirely with real or emulated Apple II computers using Appleworks 5.1 and Hermes. Apple II Forever! * The Lamp! is (c) copyright 2001 by Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W. 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