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Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. Internet Email....................................thelamp@sheppyware.net :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: TABLE OF CONTENTS ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ August 15, 1999 OPENING PITCH Show Me Some Secrets For Making The Time Stand Still ----------- [OPN] A FUNNY THING HAPPENED [FOR] The Heat Is On ------------------------------------------------- [HET] Miscellanea [MSC] Rumor Mill ----------------------------------------------------- [RMR] Public Postings [PUB] Best Of The Best ----------------------------------------------- [BOB] A2Pro_DUCTIVITY Checking out A2PRO on Delphi ----------------------------------- [A2P] HARDWORKING HARDWARE Castlewood Systems Orb Drive ----------------------------------- [HWH] THINKING KFEST There's Nothing Finer ------------------------------------------ [KFE] EXTRA INNINGS About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN] [*] [*] [*] READING THE LAMP! The index system used by The Lamp! is designed to make """"""""""""""""" your reading easier. To use this system, load this issue into any word processor or text editor. In the index you will find something like: EXTRA INNINGS About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN] To read this article, simply use your search or find command to locate [INN]. There is a similar tag at the end of each article: [EOA]. :: DISCUSSED ON DELPHI :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: : : : Avoid Computer virus--practice safe hex : : : :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: TONYW1 ::::::::::::: [EOA] [OPN]------------------------------ OPENING PITCH | ----------------------------------- From The Editor """"""""""""""" by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W. [thelamp@sheppyware.net] SHOW ME SOME SECRETS FOR MAKING THE TIME STAND STILL ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For a week every July, the clock is turned back to 1986, and time is suspended on the campus of a small college in Kansas City, Missouri. And the Apple II faithful couldn't be happier. For the eleventh straight year, the steadfast supporters of the computer that started it all gathered to celebrate at Avila College in the heat of the Kansas City summer. KansasFest 1999 is over and I'm as tired as I've been since, well, KansasFest 1998. At the same time, I'm refreshed, excited, and ecstatic. KansasFest 1997 was revolutionary, with the introduction of _Marinetti_ taking the Apple II places it had never been before; KansasFest 1998 was evolutionary, with more new and updated products than you could shake a stick at. KansasFest 1999, on the other hand, could best be described as contemplative. Yes, there were new products announced, but not like the blockbuster year of 1998. Yes, there were new discoveries, but not like the phenomenon that is known as _Marinetti_. KansasFest 1999 was a place to make new friendships and renew old ones; a time to celebrate and meditate. Another chance to stay up all night and recharge for another year. And a chance to go back to a time when everything was new. [*] [*] [*] We'll Never Have To Say Goodbye Again Department: Last month we saw the final pre-KFest '99 Blatant Plug. This month we see the first KFest 2000 Blatant Plug. KansasFest 2000 is scheduled for July 26-30, 2000, again with special early arrival events on the 25th. It'll once again be held on the campus of Avila College in Kansas City, Missouri. Turn back the clock again. Ryan thelamp@sheppyware.net ASCII ART BEGINS _________ _ _ _ |__ __| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |___ ____ | | _____ __ ___ _ _ _____ | | | | | ___ \ / __ \ | | /____ \ | v v | | v ___ \ | | | | | | | | | /__\ \ | | ____| | | /\ /\ | | / \ \ | | | | | | | | | _____| | | / ___ | | || || | | | | | |_| | | | | | | | |_____ | |____ | |__| | | || || | | \___/ / _ |_| |_| |_| \______| |______| \____^_| |_||_||_| | |\____/ |_| | | | | |_| ASCII ART ENDS [EOA] [OPN]------------------------------ A FUNNY THING HAPPENED. . . . | ----------------------------------- Checking out A2 on Delphi """"""""""""""""""""""""" by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W. [thelamp@sheppyware.net] * The Heat Is On * Miscellanea * Rumor Mill * Public Postings * Best Of The Best THE HEAT IS ON """""""""""""" [*] User Groups & Publications ....... Marinetti Future [*] General Chatter ....... How Dead Is Dead? [*] Vendors & Tech Support ....... Be Takes On The Mainstream [*] The Apple II Legacy ....... KFest! KFest! KFest! MISCELLANEA """"""""""" ASCII ACCESS ENDS ON CSI The last three ASCII forums on CompuServe were """""""""""""""""""""""" closed at approximately 4:00 am EDT on July 1st, 1999. And such perfect timing: I just got an email that Ziplink, my ISP, will no longer be offering shell service. -Ken (KEN_GAGNE, 24064, GO COM A2) CHEAP HIGH QUALITY PRINTING VIA DOLLS? When I conducted my research on """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" the Apollo printer, it really struck me that something was odd. Not with the printer, but with the companies involved. It just didn't make any sense to me why Hewlett-Packard was going so out of its way to distance itself from one of its wholly owned subsidiaries. Or, why it was so hard to pry, from an Apollo rep, the connection between Apollo and HP. But, thanks to Lyle Syverson's eagle eye, it now all makes perfect sense. Well, sort of. In a very strange and bizarre sort of way ;-) Lyle sent me two newspaper clipping. One was a news item: Color Printer Joins Barbie Line "Mattel and Apollo are targeting young girls with a Barbie ink jet printer. The printer, which has glitter-pink accents and can be decorated with decals, uses Hewlett-Packard inkjet cartridges and includes the Barbie Magic Hair Styler CD-ROM. Expected to sell for $79, the printer initially will be sold at Best Buy." The second clipping was a color ad from Best Buy. After a rebate, the DeskJet 420c, whoops, I mean the Apollo 1200, whoops, I mean the shocking-pink Barbie Doll printer costs $59. Without a doubt, it's the ugliest looking printer I've ever seen. It's pink, and it has decals of a Barbie Doll all over it. It's so hideously ugly that the tears of laughter were rolling down my face just by looking at the ad. It's so absurd, I think I want to purchase one to use on my IIGS ;-) That said, I just don't think I can bring myself to add the Barbie printer to the list of printers supported by Harmonie. That would be just a little too embarrassing ;-) Joe Kohn (JOE_KOHN, 24190, GO COM A2) SSII GETS OUT THE DOOR BEFORE JOE HEADS OVER TO KANSAS CITY In about an """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" hour or two, I'll be paying a visit to my printer. At that time, I'll either be picking up the completed Shareware Solutions II, Volume 4, Issue 4, or listening to a darn good excuse ;-) In any case, I have a weekend mailing party planned, and I have a feeling that by the time I arrive at Kfest on Tuesday, I'll be well practiced in the fine art of sleep deprivation ;-) After all, no matter when I pick up the completed newsletters, the mail party will be completed by Monday. It has to be, as I do plan to catch my early morning flight on Tuesday. Kfest '99, here I come! Joe Kohn (JOE_KOHN, 24310, GO COM A2) HELP UNCLE SAM--BUY A IIGS If you think that is interesting, go take a """""""""""""""""""""""""" look at this pallet load of used GSs being sold by the government... http://www.drms.dla.mil/htbin/show_pictxt.pl?ric=SQMA&dtid=HE446190673016 (I'm pretty sure that is an overseas phone #.) Gary R. Utter (UTTER, 24185, GO COM A2) DOES THE BINHQX XCMD IN SPECTRUM HANDLE FORKED FILES PROPERLY? What do """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" you mean by properly? If you mean, does it produce a file according to the BinHex 4.0 specs, with both forks encoded, so a Mac can unpackage the file, and the forks are preserved, and the filetype/auxtype are preserved as the correct filetype/creator, then yes it does... The only formats in the BinHQX XCMD that do not handle forks are BinSCII and UUencode. Both BinHex and Base 64 fully support forks, and Base 64 even supports filetype/creator for those unpacking utilities that support X-creator... Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Sun 4 Jul 1999 - 17 days till KFest '99 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 3.0 Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.0 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/ (EWANNOP, 24119, GO COM A2) NOT ALL PROCESSORS ARE CREATED EQUAL There were a number of variations on """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" the 6502, which is the chip used in the Apple ][,early Apple //e and Apple /// computers. One was, if memory serves, the Rockwell version that added several commands that ended up in the 65c02, and a couple that did not. The 65c02 itself was a variant on the 6502. And, without stretching the point at all, the 65802 (the version of the 65816 that is pin compatible with the 6502) is also a variant on the 6502. I think there were a few other variations, but these are the ones that were distributed widely enough that I ran across them. Of these, the Rockwell chip and the 65802 are the only ones that were never used in an Apple II (by Apple, anyway). The 65c02 was used in the Apple //c and later Apple //e computers, and the 65816 was used in the Apple IIGS. Mike Westerfield (BYTEWORKS, 24101, GO COM A2) MORE ABOUT APPLE II SERIAL CABLES THAN YOU EVER WANTED TO KNOW Here's one """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" for you cabling Geeks. . . . Over the last few days I've been doing some experimenting with null modem cables going from the IIgs (mini din 8 male) to a x86 Linux machine (DB 25 female) as some of my other posts have shown (still seeking help with that Linux login too, btw). In any case, dealing with the diagrams I've found in various manuals (with the original hardware handshaking modem cable coming from the original ProTERM 3.1 manual), I've come up with the two different hardware handshaking null modem cables: DTR 1 <--------------------> 5 CTS L__________> 6 DSR DSR 2 <--------------------> 4 RTS TXD 3 <--------------------> 3 RXD SG -> 4 <--------------------> 7 SG RXD - | 5 <--------------------> 2 TXD DCD | 7 <--------------------> 8 DCD RXD + -> 8 or, this configuration DTR 1 <---------------------------| DSR 2 <---------------------------| TXD 3 <--------------------> 3 | RXD SG -> 4 <--------------------> 7 | SG RXD - | 5 <--------------------> 2 | TXD DCD | 7 <--------------------> 8 <-| DCD RXD + -> 8 6 <-| DSR 20 <-| DTR I have made both and the simpler cable (the first one) appears to work at higher speeds more reliably than the first. Can anyone give some insight into what's going on here? RS 232 cabling is not my strongest suit. Thanks. . . - Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution (RSUENAGA, 24143, GO COM A2) >>>>> Sorry this took so long. Greg Schaefer has been on a project and """"" just got to this. I hope it is still of some interest and help. From the diagram, I have a little trouble understanding the connections on cable number 2 (are //gs DTR, DSR and linux DCD, DSR, DTR all tied together?). In any case, though the poster categorizes number 1 as simpler, it is indeed the correct one. With respect to high speed communications, the issue is the /gs DTR/CTS pin. The //gs provides only a single non-data output pin. It can be used either as CTS or as DTR, but not as both. In high-speed communications, CTS is a much more important function than DTR. It allows the software to temporarily stop the flow of incoming data from the external device. DTR on the other hand is just used to terminate connections. In the first cable, //gs DTR/CTS is connected to the CTS pin on the linux box. This gives ProTERM the ability to temporarily throttle incoming data when it needs to. In the second cable, the //gs DTR/CTS is connected to the linux DTR pin and ProTERM has no ability to slow down the linux box when it sends data too quickly. That is why there is more data loss with the second cable than the first. If you use the first cable as a reasonable bps rate (19200-38400) you should encounter little if any data loss. At 57600, the data comes in so quickly, ProTERM is sometimes unable to change CTS fast enough to ovoid overflow. Greg Schaefer @ InTrec Software, Inc. [Delivered by ProTERM Mac Messenger] via Jerry Cline (INTREC, 24330, GO COM A2) >>>>> This may be splitting hairs, but in my understanding, ANSITerm was """"" designed to emulate a PC/ANSI telecom program. It is therefore logical to me that ANSITerm uses settings that are more PC standard than Mac standard. In other words - If your modem has stored settings for PC and for Mac, the PC settings are more likely to match ANSITerm's needs. FWIW - the major difference between the settings required by ANSITerm and those required by Spectrum and some other programs is that ANSITerm issues its hangup command by dropping DTR, whereas Spectrum forces the modem in command mode, and hangs up via the 'ATH' command. Both are standard, and both are correct - but they require different settings for how DTR is handled. "But, there are two different ways to wire a hardware handshaking cable for the IIgs and Mac." Well, more than two - The typical hardware handshake cable works through the DSR line on the GS Port, and will either have the carrier detect line from the modem connected to the GPI/DCD pin on the GS modem port, or not. Lady Technophobe's GS is currently using a cable that handshakes through the GPI/DCD pin and uses the DSR pin for carrier detect. The nice thing about this cable is that it works not only with the ANSITerm driver provided for it, but it also works quite nicely with programs that use the modem port firmware - e.g. Snowterm. It also works quite nicely with Marinetti. I'm still trying to figure out the best compromise for running Bernie via the PC Card modem in my PowerBook. It doesn't appear to support Carrier Detect at all - not even in the couple of Mac programs that I have tried that support CD... Don V. Zahniser (IronTooth) Woofed to you by OLRight! scripts for ANSITerm via Bernie ][ the Rescue! (DZAHNISER, 24109, GO COM A2) >>>>> I'm pretty sure that the standard hardware handshaking cable used """"" by ANSITerm is the same that Proterm and Spectrum use. At least I've used the same cable for both ANSITerm and Spectrum on high speed connections with no problems. Don V. Zahniser (IronTooth) Woofed to you by OLRight! scripts for ANSITerm via Bernie ][ the Rescue! (DZAHNISER, 24110, GO COM A2) >>>>> The main layout for a hardware handshaking cable in the ANSITerm """"" manual is different than the layout in the Spectrum manual. However, the layout for a hardware handshaking cable in the Spectrum manual will work just fine with ANSITerm. (BTW... the layout for a hardware handshaking cable in the TIC v4 manual is identical to that in the Spectrum manual.) Lyle Syverson (LYLE837, 24122, GO COM A2) WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THE GS CLOCK ROLLS OVER? You will need to patch GS/OS, """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" just as ProDOS has to be patched. But as by then, we shall probably all be running Bernie ][ The Rescue version 65.8.16 on our 100Ghz PowerMacs, Henrik will have emulated a clock that avoids the problem... Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Sun 4 Jul 1999 - 17 days till KFest '99 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 3.0 Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.0 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/ (EWANNOP, 24120, GO COM A2) >>>>> Sometime in February 2039, the GS' time will drastically change to """"" January 1, 1900. The GS' clock is based on a 32-bit integer counting seconds from January 1, 1900. The 32-bit integer will overflow in 2039. It won't be too hard to patch the toolbox time calls to support time after the cut-off date, but any programs accessing the clock directly will still get an incorrect time. Seriously, who will be using a GS in 40 years for this to be a real concern? (SISGEOFF, 24129, GO COM A2) >>>>> The rollover actually will occur February 6, 2040, after 6:28 a.m. """"" At which time it will revert to January 1, 1904. (REEVESST, 24132, GO COM A2) <<<<< Won't that meteor that is due to hit the earth not have flattened """"" all the remaining IIgs by then? But I would guess it will be those running Macintosh 68K emulators that might have to worry... Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Mon 5 Jul 1999 - 16 days till KFest '99 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 3.0 Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.0 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/ (EWANNOP, 24135, GO COM A2) >>>>> Hmm, we have 40 years left for rewriting AppleWorks Classic. That """"" should be sufficient if everyone is taking the finger out of the nose. :) Henrik Woof Gudat (GUDATH, 24137, GO COM A2) INFO ON BE AND ERNIE VERSUS BERNIE You can get information on the BeOS at """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" { http://www.be.com.} Sweet16's only significant advantage over Bernie is that you can run it on PCs. The only other advantage is that if your computer has multiple processors, Sweet16 will use them -- Bernie doesn't. --- Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd sheppy@sheppyware.net http://www.sheppyware.net (SHEPPY, 24162, GO COM A2) SWEET16 1.0 APPROACHES The release of Sweet16 version 1.0 is imminent! To """""""""""""""""""""" commemorate this occasion, I've finally established the Sweet16 mailing list for talking about, getting help with, and giving high praise ;) to Sweet16. To subscribe, send email to { majordomo@sheppyware.net} with the text "subscribe sweet16-list" in the body of the message. --- Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd sheppy@sheppyware.net http://www.sheppyware.net (SHEPPY, 24346, GO COM A2) <<<<< The C emulator core in the Intel version of Sweet16 does have a few """"" bugs in it, but by and large it works quite well (especially in the upcoming 1.0 release). There are one or two known problems that I'm actively engaged in tracking down and hope to have fixed this week. It's true that the Intel version of Sweet16 is comparatively slow. My Pentium II 333 MHz system emulates about a 6.5 MHz IIgs, which isn't awful but is nothing like the 50 or 60 MHz you'd get on a comparable-speed Macintosh running the PPC version of Sweet16. I'm actively looking for a good Intel assembly language programmer to write the x86 assembly core for Sweet16. If you know someone who might be able to do this, please let me know! --- Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd sheppy@sheppyware.net http://www.sheppyware.net (SHEPPY, 24248, GO COM A2) <<<<< A few things: """"" 1. Sweet16 for BeOS Intel will become faster over time. There are optimizations ongoing, and eventually we will find someone to do the assembly code for it. 2. Sweet16 for BeOS Intel is still much faster than XGS is, by a substantial factor. 3. As for the whole Windows thing -- developing a Windows version wouldn't be sinful; it's just that BeOS is a better place for emulation. The PowerPC processor is designed with emulation in mind, which gives it an inherent advantage -- there will never be an x86 Apple II emulator that can compete with a comparably well-written emulator on an equivalent PowerPC chip; the architecture of x86 processors isn't up to the challenge. The Windows operating system adds another layer of slowness to things; it's not a well-designed system internally and isn't very efficient. BeOS, on the other hand, performs quite spectacularly (with very low latencies on audio and video presentation, a fraction that of either Mac OS or Windows), and is easily and inexpensively scaled onto multiprocessor systems. You can buy a dual-processor Pentium II system for under $2000 and substantially improve Sweet16's performance. You can't do that under Windows. The point is that BeOS just makes more sense as an OS for emulation than Windows does. The goal of Sweet16 is to create emulation that's compatible and fast, and to do that on Intel processors, in my opinion, Windows isn't a reasonable way to go. BeOS isn't expensive, it installs easily and cleanly, and can sit next to Windows on the same hard disk. A 200 MHz Pentium II can run Sweet16 at around 3 or 4 MHz, roughly. That's faster than the 1.5 to 2 MHz or so I get running XGS on my 200 MHz Pentium II at work. Also note that XGS development has apparently stalled, and hasn't as far as I can tell been updated in over a year. Sweet16 development is accelerating; my goal is to meet or exceed Bernie's features within a year. Much to Henrik's chagrin. :) --- Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd sheppy@sheppyware.net http://www.sheppyware.net (SHEPPY, 24267, GO COM A2) <<<<< By the way, Sweet16 1.0 is now available for download -- you can """"" read the manual online (and download the PPC and Intel versions) at { http://www.sheppyware.net/software/sweet16_be/} Enjoy! Sheppy --- Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd sheppy@sheppyware.net http://www.sheppyware.net (SHEPPY, 24522, GO COM A2) MY ESOURCE REWARDS TARDINESS I forgot to mention: Seven Hills is having a """""""""""""""""""""""""""" sale on IIGS software through the end of July. Here's your chance to get Spectrum 2.2 for $50, $35 off! Other titles, such as The Manager, are half off. Free shipping if you buy two titles. I love it when procrastination pays off. :) http://www.myesource.com/sevenhills/applesoftware/index.htm Bill Dooley (WMD01, 24290, GO COM A2) NEED SOME DSDD 3.5 INCH FLOPPIES? At yesterday's computershow here in the """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Chicago area where my UG staffs an info table, I talked to a dealer who specializes in recordable media. She will be selling to me her remaining stock of DS/DD 3.5" disks. These disks are used - they were set up for training for corporations, and come 150/box. I've used several of these boxes in the past, and have had maybe 3 failures out of the entire lot. The boxes cost $12.50 each. I'm offering them to everyone here at cost plus shipping. There's 36 boxes total. Let me know via email if you're interested, and let me know your mailing address, so I can get shipping charges figured out (probably UPS unless you prefer snail-mail). (BTW--the "3 failures" mentioned above were individual disks, not entire boxes. :) ) Later............Howard (HKATZ, 24536, GO COM A2) COOLING A GS WITHOUT A GS FAN I have not been able to come up with a """"""""""""""""""""""""""""" GS-specific fan so I solved the problem by taking a //e-style fan, which normally latches onto the side of a //e, and making it work with my GS by: 1. cutting an approx 7 cm x 5 cm hole in my GS' lid on the left side. 2. taking off the part of the //e fan that clips into the //e case, which allows it to fit snugly up against the GS case where the cut hole is. 3. Using generous amounts of hot glue to hold the sucker to the side of the GS lid. The advantage to this method is that //e fans are plentiful and it works well. The disadvantage is you have to cut your GS case and the //e fan. But GSes also seem to be plentiful, esp after what I saw in Sean Fahey's garage :) so cutting the case is no biggie for me. Just don't cut a Woz case. :) Shawn Beattie (STBEATTIE, 24661, GO COM A2) KFEST BEFORE This is the KFest Taxi list so far. If you need a ride from """""""""""" and/or to the airport at Kansas City, now is the time to ask. Arrivals Name Airline Flight Arrive Terminal Driver Ryan Suenaga United 1406 7/20 12:29 pm C CarlK Pat Kern American 507 7/20 1:01 pm A CarlK Joe Kohn America West 2592 7/20 4:23 pm A CarlK? Giselle Schnaubelt Northwest 1855 7/20 8:05 pm C CarlK? Ken Gagne US Airways 1576 7/21 12:11 am A Geoff Margaret Anderson ????? 215K 7/21 12:39 pm Geoff Jerry Cline America West 2590 7/21 1:25 pm A Geoff Geoff Weiss (Renting) SouthWest 215 7/21 1:35 pm B Geoff Dean Nichols (Fivecents) Southwest 566 7/21 3:50 pm B Sheppy Eric & Sarah Shepherd Southwest 524 7/21 4:40 pm B Sheppy Departures Jerry Cline America West 2831 7/25 6:00 am A Ewen Wannop America West HP2806 7/25 8:50 am A Joe Kohn America West HP2806 7/25 8:50 am A Ken Gagne US Airways 1575 7/25 11:05 am A CarlK? Eric & Sarah Shepherd Southwest 1533 7/25 12:15 pm B Sheppy Dean Nichols (Fivecents) Southwest 1533 7/25 12:15 pm B Sheppy Geoff Weiss SouthWest 7/25 1:00 pm B Geoff Pat Kern American 1094 7/25 1:57 pm A Geoff Giselle Schnaubelt Northwest 212 7/25 2:10 pm C Geoff Ryan Suenaga United 1663 7/25 6:25 pm C Cindy As you can see, there is still room for more drivers, as well as riders. -- Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Thu 15 Jul 99 9:37:33 pm cknoblo@novia.net - Via Spectrum v2.2 & Crock O' Gold v3.1 Running on a PowerBook G3 With Bernie at 266MHZ KansasFest 11, July 21-25, 1999 - 6 days till KFest Using Marinetti 2.0.1 - Thank you, Richard. (CKNOBLO, 24303, GO COM A2) >>>>> I'm getting a pre-KFest taxi ride from Sheppy tomorrow morning. See """"" ya next from Tracy, CA. - Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution (RSUENAGA, 24351, GO COM A2) >>>>> I shall be on vacation for the next month, and shall not be reading """"" my email or Delphi Forums till I get back. If in the meantime you need any help with COG or Spectrum, get yourself to Kansas City next week, and I shall deal with it in person... Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Thu 15 Jul 1999 - 6 days till KFest '99 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 3.0 Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.0 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/ (EWANNOP, 24285, GO COM A2) >>>>> Don't forget your crazy tie for the "Roger Wagner Crazy Tie" """"" contest at the roast. It seems like an appropriate way to "honor" Sir Ewen. :) Momma Cheese (CINDYADAMS, 24314, GO COM A2) >>>>> I'll be transient all day; Sheppy's dropping me off at San """"" Francisco International in a few hours, and I'll be KFest bound from there. Have fun. I will. Sleep well. I won't. - Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution (RSUENAGA, 24378, GO COM A2) >>>>> I'll be watching for your arrival at Avila. """"" Even the locals are saying it's humid, so this just be a fun week. Sleep? No way! Cindy (CINDYADAMS, 24379, GO COM A2) >>>>> I'm packing as we speak. Our door sign is made, Sarah's GS is """"" packed, clothes are in the washer, and I've got most of my other stuff gathered and ready to pack up. We're heading for a motel tonight nearer the airport, so we don't have to contend with traffic early tomorrow. --- Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd sheppy@sheppyware.net http://www.sheppyware.net (SHEPPY, 24386, GO COM A2) KFEST DURING KFest 1999 has begun!! """""""""""" There are already about 10 people here. Computers are plugged in and working. Ethernet is being used to access each other's hard drives. A load has gone to Hardee's for lunch. I had the first door sign up - Cheese! Loren has a different haircut. Jeff Blakeney is the first 1999 "newbie" to arrive. That's all I can think of after being here 1 hour. Momma Cheese (CINDYADAMS, 24383, GO COM A2) <<<<< It's now 3:00 KST (KFest Standard Time) """"" The Binary Bus with the Ciotti's and Ewen has arrived. Dave Miller has been printing KFest since using the Avila ethernet network. (He used my computer and his printer.) It's still HUMID. Hot Pepper Dave still hasn't put up any signs yet. Momma Cheese PS Carl, Ryan, and Pat just walked in!! (CINDYADAMS, 24384, GO COM A2) <<<<< It's almost 6:00 KST """"" The dorm is filling up. People are meeting the newbies. Dave Carey finally has a door sign, done with Print Shop GS, of course. It's still HUMID. We'll be leaving for KC Masterpiece shortly. Can you smell the BBQ? Momma Cheese (CINDYADAMS, 24385, GO COM A2) <<<<< We are now about to begin our second day of KFest. The sun is up """"" and shining brightly. We can probably expect another humid day here in KC,MO. KFest officially started last night with an inspiring, and somewhat embarrassing, keynote address by the "World Famous Apple IIgs Newsletter Editor" Max Jones. After this session, JuicedGS hosted a reception. So far, I think I can report that everyone is having a great time! Now I'm off to breakfast in the Avila cafeteria, and then will learn more about Spectrum scripting than I thought possible. The Big Cheese PS This is being posted from the web because Delphi's text side seems to gone on vacation during KFest. (CINDYADAMS, 24418, GO COM A2) <<<<< We just had a great session on PrintShop GS Companion taught by Hot """"" Pepper Dave! He can really push that program to it's limit! The Big Cheese PS It would be great if everyone else here would start posting. :) (CINDYADAMS, 24421, GO COM A2) <<<<< Friday Morning -- """"" Craig Foos from Apple thought he was coming to talk to some mild-mannered people about the latest Quicktime stuff. But then he met us! Stan Marks taught us new things about the "old" AWGS database. He really does some cool stuff with it. Unfortunately, he didn't end his session soon enough, and made the mistake of showing a birthday card he had created. Lunch, and this afternoon we will have to choose between the following: Joe Kohn, Storyteller Toolbox Programming in GSoft Basic with Sheppy Tonight is the banquet and Roast of Ewen Wannop. Momma Cheese (CINDYADAMS, 24445, GO COM A2) KFEST AFTER I didn't get my usual post-KFest report typed while I waited """"""""""" for my plane this year, because Ryan was there to keep me company. It was really nice to have someone to talk to that understood the emotional high and fuzzy brain that I was experiencing. As far as I am concerned, I think this was the best KFest ever! (At least until Y][Kfest.) Lots of old friends, some new ones, great sessions, pretty good food, an inspiring Keynote address, an enjoyable roast, as well as many other things were just a few of the things that I enjoyed. Since I've kinda been posting here during my "spare" minutes, I'm going to let everyone else make their reports, and I'm just going to take this time to thank some people. I'll probably miss some really important ones, just like I missed some great door signs, but forgive me as I'm still on my KFest High!! (That is even more true since I'm cruising at about 30,000 feet altitude towards Arizona.) The committee is my main support for all of this. Jerry (who takes care of registration), Steve (who does all of the handouts and scheduling), Max (who does publicity and lots of other stuff), Stan, and Allen (who are both there to offer a hand to help whenever it's needed). Thanks to "Sir" Ewen Wannop for designing the KFest '99 logo. He also has already started on the one for Y][Kfest, so be watching the webpage for that. I also want to thank him for graciously agreeing to be roasted and his gentle encouragement for me to pursue my scripting career. Thanks to Devin for hosting the KFest mailing list. This is a great help and communication tool for getting important information out to everyone. Another thanks to David Kerwood for maintaining the KFest website. Shawn Beattie helped to make all of the sessions more "viewable" for everyone thanks to his projector. Thanks Shawn! Thanks to Erick Wagner (and everyone else) for the wonderful birthday card. It's such a pleasure for me to read all of the nice things that everyone wrote to "A2 Mum". (Stan, you aren't off the hook yet!) Carl Knoblock, the official KFest Taxi Dispatcher, and his helper Allen Moore, did a wonderful job of getting people to and from the airport, even at some really nasty hours. Thanks guys! I'm sure there are many other people that need to be thanked, and I could easily sit here and go down the list of everyone that was at KFest and realize that I need to thank you for something you did, but for now, I'll just make it a big KFest '99 thanks, and say I'll see you ALL next year! July 26 - 30, 2000 The Big Cheese (CINDYADAMS, 24523, GO COM A2) <<<<< Thanks to Wal-Mart's one hour developing, a scanner, and my son """"" that knows what he is doing, we have pictures ready for public viewing. www.primenet.com/~adams/kfest99 The Big Cheese (CINDYADAMS, 24553, GO COM A2) MORE KFEST--THE HACKFEST REPORT I was the first entrant, and only after """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Max Jones gave me an idea for a program. (my imagination tapped, I had not planned on entering.) It's actually a semi-useful tool that I may upload once I get it full-featured - and working! I'm telling folks here what I'm writing, but only because they're going to see it. If I say something online, then I'll have to finish it. Jeff Blakeney is writing something in assembly, Richard Bennett has entered, and a mysterious fourth participant is to TBA. -Ken (KEN_GAGNE, 24470, GO COM A2) <<<<< Fifth place went to Cindy Adams, who wrote a Spectrum script... """"" because she could. :) Fourth was Jeff Blakeney's GSoft Basic program to strip the Binary II headers off a directory of ShrinkIt archives, and update their auxtypes accordingly. Third was Richard Bennett, who wrote an app that makes a IIgs mouse emulate an iMac mouse. Must be seen. :) Shawn Beattie was second, who wrote a Y2KFest countdown program with scrolling text and a moving icon. Cool! My half-finished but functional Spectrum database program came in first. It allows you to maintain records of 1-8 fields each from within Spectrum. You can also import any Appleworks Database file (after saving it as a text file). This was a much cooler HackFest than last year, with more participants, more prizes, and more working code. (all participants this year finished their programs to one extent or another, whereas last year I think most programs were still in their planning stages). -Ken (KEN_GAGNE, 24486, GO COM A2) >>>>> BTW, I already have a couple of ideas for next year's HackFest. ;-) """"" The reason I thought of the idea of Spectrum script-based database is because I often get questions asked via e-mail by subscribers about the status of their subscriptions. To get the info, I have to quit Spectrum and launch AppleWorks GS, then go back to Spectrum with my answer. By converting my AWGS database and importing into a Spectrum database script, I could have access to the info from right there within Speccie. I would like that a lot. It would also be nice to have other databases available as well, or to create them within Spectrum. Ken did a nice job with the scripting program and I certainly hope he completes it. :-) I also hope everyone gets access to Shawn Beattie's GSoft BASIC "Countdown to Y][Kest" program. That was cool, too! Eric Shepherd was the HackFest director and did a great job. I think he has succeeded in producing an event that is in the process of becoming yet another grand Kfest tradition. Did we mention that there were several hundred dollars worth of prizes? Nice incentive for the contest, eh? Max (JUICEDGS, 24541, GO COM A2) RUMOR MILL """""""""" MICROSOFT AND AOL CLASH; GSAIM ENDANGERED? Microsoft released on Thursday """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" "MSN Messenger," an AIM clone of their own that promotes their services (HotMail, etc). AOL responded by adding code to the AIM servers to lock out MSN Messenger. I believe this has rendered gsAIM useless, but I haven't had time to check it yet. Ordinarily I'd alter gsAIM to get around AOL's changes, but Microsoft is doing the same thing, and AOL is countering by changing their code further each time. Clearly that puts me in a situation where if it's true that gsAIM is broken by AOL's changes, there's little sense in my trying to fix the problem until AOL and Microsoft get over their little tiff. This pretty much sucks for all of us. If I confirm that gsAIM has been broken by this, I don't know for sure right now what I'll do. --- Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd sheppy@sheppyware.net http://www.sheppyware.net (SHEPPY, 24577, GO COM A2) >>>>> FYI, this isn't just a gsAIM problem. All the "unsanctioned" AIM """"" clones on all the other platforms are affected as well. -- Steve Reeves (REEVESST, 24594, GO COM A2) >>>>> Just to let you know, I tried gsAIM tonight and got the following """"" results. After checking e-mail and doing some COG stuff, I quit to the Finder and tried gsAIM. It connected but my system crashed when the buddies online window appeared. I rebooted and tried gsAIM again. The first four or five attempts resulted in parsing or login errors. However, the last attempt worked and I was able to send and receive messages. Unfortunately, a short while later moving my mouse cursor started erasing section of my screen and the system stopped responding so I had to reboot again. The point here being that it might still be working, you just need to be persistent. I know that when I first installed gsAIM I could rarely get it to work but then I disabled some add-ons (inits, DAs, etc.) and it started working much more reliably for me. It may be touchy but is pretty handy when it works. :) Jeff Blakeney | Dean of the Apple II University in A2Pro | --------------+----------------------------------------------------+ sent via | HyperCard IIgs Course | GSoft BASIC Course | COG v3.1 | now in session | now in session | (JBLAKENEY, 24629, GO COM A2) <<<<< If it worked once, then it's not a network problem (except that """"" Marinetti is crashing possibly :). Which means that AOL's anti-Microsoft patches aren't affecting gsAIM after all and people are just having a run of bad luck trying to connect. Whew. :) --- Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd sheppy@sheppyware.net http://www.sheppyware.net (SHEPPY, 24630, GO COM A2) WILL MY ESOURCE PROVIDE COMMERCIAL SOFTWARE VIA EMAIL? They won't do """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" that, but I think they will provide it through online ordering and download from their web site some time in the future. Send them email that you want to do that. SIS is already for purchase in this way--which is cool since I don't use floppy disks any more (another great innovation by Apple for being the first to offer a major consumer machine with no floppy). I downloaded the .shk file, ran to_pro to put the file on a disk image, started up my emulator, and went from there to unshrink the .shk file from the emulator. I didn't bother installing it since I already had a copy of SIS on my emulator :) It is great to see Seven Hills be the first Apple II company to provide software completely by the Internet. Geoff (SISGEOFF, 24327, GO COM A2) WHAT WAS THE LAST COPY II PLUS? The last official version of Copy II+ """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""" from Central Point Software was 9.1. There are a few pirated versions out there that have version numbers higher, but I don't know what they're supposed to do. The difference between 9.0 and 9.1 was a fix of the directory sort function; in 9.0 if you used that function, you would end up with a trashed directory, though all of the other functions worked well. If memory serves, you could use C2plus to work with 3.5" disks (at least as far as the utilities goes, not sure about software duplication that came on 3.5" disks) from at least version 7 on. Since it was a ProDOS program, it would recognize any 3.5" drive hooked to your computer. Later............Howard (HKATZ, 24617, GO COM A2) >>>>> The problem with C2+ is that they released a version 9.1 with a bug """"" that would eat block 1 of a hard drive, making it vanish. They fixed this bug quickly, and replaced the buggy v9.1 with, (drumroll), v9.1. So there are versions of 9.1 out there that will trash your hard drive in certain, not really well defined, circumstances. Gary R. Utter (UTTER, 24631, GO COM A2) PUBLIC POSTINGS """"""""""""""" FROM THE SOUTH SANDWICH ISLES--EMULATE.GS Superior Apple IIgs Emulation """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Finds a Home The best Apple IIgs emulation on the planet has a new home on the Internet. The new emulate.gs Web site is the central hub for the Bernie ][ The Rescue and Sweet16 Apple IIgs emulators. Bernie ][ The Rescue is the ultimate Apple IIgs emulator for Power Macintosh computers running Mac OS(R). Bernie is the most-compatible, most fully-featured Apple IIgs emulator ever created, and its performance is unequaled among single-processor computers. Sweet16 is the rising star in the Apple II emulation world, bringing high-performance Apple IIgs emulation to computers running the Be operating system, BeOS. With support for the advanced features of the BeOS, including multiprocessing support, Sweet16 rivals Bernie ][ The Rescue in performance on single-processor systems; add a second (or fourth, or eighth!) processor and watch the IIgs fly like you could never have believed! And now you can get information on them from a new central hub. Direct your web browser to { http://www.emulate.gs} -- the new home for superior Apple II emulation. SheppyWare & F.E.Systems (GUDATH, 24152, GO COM A2) MORE KFEST PIX FROM PAT """"""""""""""""""""""" ===================== KFEST GRAPHICS ALERT! ===================== ===>>> NEW FILES ADDED <<<=== Who would be interested in the following awesome collection of Kfest graphics THAT WILL AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE AT THE KFEST '99 VENDOR FAIR Reserve your copy in advance to be certain to have one ready for you at Kfest '99 Kfest Stuff #1 --->>> CD Rom <<<--- at a nominal cost to cover the expenses of production? C O N T E N T S KfestStuff#1 CD There's about ===>>> 140 <<<=== megs total. Kfest 94 JPGs 106 files 4.15 MG > All edited, cropped, resized, Kfest 95 JPGs 199 files 6.12 MB > retouched, cleaned up Kfest 96 JPGs 307 files 9.82 MB > and/or Kfest 97 JPGs 410 files 19.90 MB > "embellished" Kfest 98 JPGs 340 files 10.90 MB > by Patz Pix Yearbook 95 Keepsakes of Kfest 36 files 1009x1320 JPGs 20.9 MG Prints out to 36 pages of photos and text or can be viewed on the monitor. Yearbook 96 Keepsakes of Kfest 28 files 1009x1320 JPGs 18.7 MG Prints out to 28 pages of photos and text or can be viewed on the monitor. Yearbook 97 Keepsakes of Kfest 24 files 1009x1320 JPGs 16.2 MG Prints out to 24 pages of photos and text or can be viewed on the monitor. ===>>> NEW & JUST ADDED Yearbook 98 Keepsakes of Kfest 28 files 1009x1320 JPGs 6.45 MB Prints out to 28 pages of photos and text or can be viewed on the monitor. KeepCvr.jpg Cover Keepsakes of Kfest 1009x1320 JPG To print out or view. 95 Logo JPGs 35 files 1.33 MG 96 Logo JPGs 27 files 1.14 MG 97 Logo JPGs 29 files 1.42 MG 98 Logo JPGs 36 files 1.41 MG 99 Logo JPGs 60 files 2.31 MG These are the ones on the Kfest Web page. More Kfest Stuff JPGs 26 files 985 KB Mostly JPGs, a few GIFs. A2 User Pics 11 jpgs. 248 KB Animated GIFs 34 files 15.1 MG Kansas City MIDI Music file 53.8 KB Masterpiece MIDI Music file 7.9 KB Genie Ad WAV Sound file 1.23 MG Bite WAV Sound file 171 KB Tape1.exe 914 KB Video only runs on PCs, I think. Pat Kern . (PATZ_PIX, 24286, GO COM A2) SILVERN CASTLE DEBUTS AT KFEST 1999 Hi all, """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Last week at KFest, Max Jones of Juiced.GS demonstrated Silvern Castle, a new game for the 8-bit Apple II, written entirely in Applesoft BASIC. I've been playing it a bit and it seems like a great game - definitely commercial quality (I've paid for games just like it) - and so am starting this thread. First message here I'd like to post some excerpts from the docs: ----- SILVERN CASTLE: The Lost Crystal Orb Program Author - Jeff Fink Version 1.0 - July, 1999 Shareware fees: $15 Jeff Fink 432 Eureka St., Apt. 210 Ripon, WI 54971 What is it? ''''''''''' Silvern Castle is a fantasy role-playing game. You will be able to create up to 20 characters and take 6 of them on an adventure into the unknown depths of a multi-level 3-D maze. It won't be easy. Traps of all kinds abound, as well as hundreds of monsters. Will you be able to fulfill your quest and retrieve the lost Crystal Orb from the evil Wizard Drachma? Version 1.0 ''''''''''' Silvern Castle was developed after the authors of Wizardry bragged that it was "...a game that simply could not have been written in BASIC."^1 Silvern Castle was purchased by Softdisk in 1988, but was never published. After the demise of Softdisk, I requested and obtained written acknowledgement that the rights to Silvern Castle shall revert back to me. Although I have greatly modified and improved upon the original Silvern Castle, it has until now never been seen, hence the version 1 moniker (although since 1988, it's probably up to version 20!). So, here for the greater Apple II community for the very first time is version 1.0 of Silvern Castle, a complete fantasy role-playing game written in Applesoft BASIC! ^1 Wizardry: Proving Grounds Manual, pg 1. Introduction to Silvern Castle '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' Welcome to a new computer role-playing experience. At first glance, Silvern Castle may appear to be a Wizardry clone. However, other than its outward appearance, it outperforms Wizardry in scope and complexity. For instance, you get 250+ monsters (including wandering monsters, NPC parties, dragon lairs, snake pits, and humanoid dens, to name a few), 400+ items (mundane, magical, enchanted and cursed), special goodies, a multi-level 27x27 maze, rich spellbook system for magic-users, traps, magic fountains, computer-generated mazes and monster species, 100+ spells (of which many can be cast reversed), sub-plots and quests, and much more... (KEN_GAGNE, 24558, GO COM A2) <<<<< When my half-hour layover in DC yesterday extended to five hours, I """"" had a great opportunity to wear out the battery on my PowerBook playing Silvern Castle. I'd like to offer some pointers to people just starting: - Think about what races to use in your party. Demihumans get much higher stats than humans, but require twice the experience to advance each of the first four levels. It just gets worse after that. Try a mixed party. I'm using one with a demihuman fighter and mage, and a human fighter, mage, cleric, and thief. Don't take my word for it, though. I've tried human parties, demihuman parties, and mixed parties, and had them all slaughtered. (if you see priestesses or pixies - RUN! or fall back to your last save) - Like I said, this game is tough. :) The only way I can see surviving: cheat. Create five dummy characters (fastest way is human male fighters of strength 14; I named them A-E) and create a party of those five and one of your real characters. Send the keeper to Quillion's Trading Post to Buy, and Pool your gold. Then delete the five fake characters, and repeat. After a few minutes of this, you should have enough gold to outfit all your characters with decent weaponry & armour. - Mages and clerics are useless without spells. Buy scrolls at Quillion's then Add them to your spellbooks. Don't count on finding scrolls as random treasure in the dungeon (castle?). -Ken (KEN_GAGNE, 24559, GO COM A2) <<<<< Silvern Castle is $15 shareware. Payment earns you the unlocking """"" code necessary to enter the final room on the final level to beat the game. Also, a random maze generator is unlocked, for infinite play. -Ken (KEN_GAGNE, 24560, GO COM A2) <<<<< Apple IIgs users with a Second Sight card may experience technical """"" difficulties when playing Silvern Castle. My recommendation: don't enter the control panel. -Ken (KEN_GAGNE, 24580, GO COM A2) BEST OF THE BEST """""""""""""""" 24242 12-JUL 14:28 General Chatter It's Alive!! From: WMD01 To: ALL For the last several years (!), my Woz IIGS has been getting less and less stable, and this week it became unusable. I was afraid it was on its last legs, but finally worked up the energy and the nerve to pull the whole thing apart. I reseated every connector and socketed chip on the MB and every card, including the chips on the back of the TWGS daughterboard. Doing the VGC on the MB and the 65816 on the TWGS were a bit intimidating. I wouldn't touch the VGC again without a more suitable tool than a bent paperclip; I had to straighten out a few skewed pins. However, I got it all put back together and the system has been running for 2 1/2 days without a hiccup. It's like new. I hadn't realized how much my nervousness at the machine's instability took away from my enjoyment of it even when it was behaving itself. To celebrate, I've ordered a copy of Spectrum. :) Bill Dooley [EOA] [A2P]------------------------------ A2Pro_DUCTIVITY | ----------------------------------- Checking out A2PRO on Delphi """""""""""""""""""""""""""" by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W. [thelamp@sheppyware.net] GSOFT SESSION HITS KFEST We had a very nice session at KFest on GSoft """""""""""""""""""""""" Toolbox programming. I think it went fairly well considering I covered a lot of material in just an hour and a half or so. I'm curious what the attendees thought of it, and if there was any actual retention. ;) --- Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd sheppy@sheppyware.net http://www.sheppyware.net (SHEPPY, 2736, GO COM A2PRO) >>>>> Right now I can't remember to sleep :) """"" Aside from that, it was way cool. And you've already sold at least one copy of the Toolbox Programming in GSoft BASIC book when it's ready. - Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution (RSUENAGA, 2737, GO COM A2PRO) WHERE'S BRUTAL DELUXE'S PATCHED TEXTEDIT TOOL? What ever happened to this """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" patch? I went to the web site and I got an error. Is there a new pointer? Regards, Chris (CVAVRUSKA, 2705, GO COM A2PRO) >>>>> I personally don't trust this patch, I've heard of people having """"" problems with it. --- Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd sheppy@sheppyware.net http://www.sheppyware.net (SHEPPY, 2709, GO COM A2PRO) >>>>> It looks like Brutal Deluxe's FTP space has been removed (looks """"" like all clients on that FTP server no longer has FTP space). I'm sure you can find a copy on ground or caltech. Geoff (SISGEOFF, 2712, GO COM A2PRO) >>>>> I haven't heard of anyone having any problems with it and I've also """"" had it installed on my machine since they released it and can't attribute any problems to it. Jeff Blakeney | Dean of the Apple II University in A2Pro | --------------+----------------------------------------------------+ sent via | HyperCard IIgs Course | GSoft BASIC Course | COG v3.1 | now in session | now in session | (JBLAKENEY, 2713, GO COM A2PRO) >>>>> Although it does fix the problem they tackled, TextEdit still has """"" the inherent bugs that it always had. The only cure for those is to have lots of memory available for TextEdit to work in. This really applies to programs like SIS, which uses TextEdit to its limits. If you have limited memory, keep the system as clean as possible of anything that hogs memory. With SIS, keep the Spectrum capture buffers small to free as much memory as possible. I used to get those random hangs on my real IIgs, but under the 14Mb emulated IIgs, Textedit almost never hangs... Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Thu 8 Jul 1999 - 13 days till KFest '99 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 3.0 Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.0 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/ (EWANNOP, 2714, GO COM A2PRO) >>>>> I have had the same chance of TextEdit hanging my emulated GS if I """"" have 4 megs or 8 megs. This means that it isn't the amount of RAM, but what is in it when bad pointers are being passed around. But I have had no problems directly relating to the patched Tool34. SIS 1.1 does take advantage of the bug fixes in it by proving better caching. Geoff (SISGEOFF, 2715, GO COM A2PRO) >>>>> It fixes one of the bugs in the TextEdit toolset that causes your """"" computer to hang (or crash, I can't remember now) if you try to have a TextEdit control display more than 1023 style changes. A style change is when you change the font, font style (plain, bold, italic, etc.), font size, tabs, margin, indent or justification (I think that covers them all :) This isn't a big problem for what TextEdit is usually used for by most people but it can bite you sometimes. Especially when using SIS. Jeff Blakeney | Dean of the Apple II University in A2Pro | --------------+----------------------------------------------------+ sent via | HyperCard IIgs Course | GSoft BASIC Course | COG v3.1 | now in session | now in session | (JBLAKENEY, 2720, GO COM A2PRO) WHAT CENTURY DOES YOUR IIGS THINK IT IS? Anyone know where the century is """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" stored on the GS? All references to time are the year only. Is it something I am going to have to fake? (>85=19 <86=20)? GSOS does it so I would like to do it the right way. Regards, Chris (CVAVRUSKA, 2706, GO COM A2PRO) >>>>> Use _ReadTimeHex. If CurYear is < 100, it is the 20th century, """"" otherwise it is the 21st century. Due to the GS clock limit, this call will never return a year higher than 140 (or year 2040--thanks for the correction as seen in another thread). P.S. You can now subscribe with your new address to the Marinetti development mailing list. The problem was corrected before another subscriber joined. Geoff (SISGEOFF, 2711, GO COM A2PRO) HOW DO I GET STARTED WITH IIGS PROGRAMMING? If you really want to do IIgs """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" programming you should get the Toolbox Reference Volumes 1, 2, and 3, and the Programmer's Reference for System 6, and possibly the GS/OS Reference. You can get started with the Toolbox Programming in C course, but that only gets you so far. The books are critical to really get into it. --- Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd sheppy@sheppyware.net http://www.sheppyware.net (SHEPPY, 2741, GO COM A2PRO) >>>>> While I basically agree with Eric, I'd also point out that you """"" don't need more than ORCA/C and Toolbox Programming in ORCA/C to get _started_. You'll want to add all those books in the long run, but Toolbox Programming in ORCA/C comes with an abridged version of these books that covers everything you need for the course itself, and the course does a pretty good job of covering the most commonly used toolbox features. In the long run, you will probably want some sort of design tool like DesignMaster, and possibly the ORCA/M assembler. Mike Westerfield (BYTEWORKS, 2742, GO COM A2PRO) [EOA] [HWH]------------------------------ HARDWORKING HARDWARE | ----------------------------------- CASTLEWOOD SYSTEMS ORB DRIVE """""""""""""""""""""""""""" by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W. [thelamp@delphi.com] CASTLEWOOD SYSTEMS ORB DRIVE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Product Name: Castlewood Systems Orb 2.2 GB Mac Ultra SCSI Portable Drive (aka The Orb Drive) Distribution: $199.99 Castlewood Systems, Inc. 7133 Koll Center Parkway, Suite 200 Pleasanton, CA 94566 email: help@castlewood.com World Wide Web: http://www.castlewood.com phones: 925-461-5500 (voice) 925-461-5501 (fax) +31 20 581 93 02 (Europe) Tested on: Apple IIgs with RamFAST SCSI and Apple Revision C SCSI Card, ROM_3, ZipGSX 8/16, 5 megabytes RAM. A few years ago, Iomega's Zip Drive exploded onto the computing scene as an inexpensive (then $199) removable hard drive that attached to a SCSI chain and provided 100 megs of reasonably fast, relatively inexpensive storage with the convenience of a floppy disk. Today, after waiting more than a year since its announcement, Castlewood Systems tries to one up--or rather, 22 up--the original Zip Drive with its Orb Drive. There are several incarnations of the Orb; the one we're looking at is a $199 removable hard drive that attaches to a SCSI chain and provides 2.2 _gigabytes_ of very fast, very inexpensive storage with the convenience of a floppy disk. The Orb Drive comes with Macintosh software on a CD ROM, an owner's guide, one 2.2 gig cartridge (cartridges are available for $30 each), a power supply ("wall wart" style), and a DB 25 to HDB 50 SCSI cable. The drive itself is black in color, compact (listed in the specifications as being 6.5 x 1.5 x 5.25 inches) and light (1.19 pounds)--it looks like a portable CD player. The Orb Drive has many features we've come to expect in SCSI removable hard drives. It has an eject button, two scsi ports, built-in termination, an LED to indicate power and disk activity, and a SCSI ID selection switch. In many ways, it is similar to the Zip Drive, although it improves on it in several areas. Like the Zip Drive, the Orb Drive has an eject button and two SCSI ports but does not have an on/off switch. Unlike the Zip, the SCSI ports are the HDB 50 type, not widely used in the Apple II world. Also, unlike the Zip Drive, there is a disk eject hole through which you can stick a paper clip in an emergency, and you can choose from more than two SCSI IDs (although the IDs are still limited to numbers 0, 4, 5, and 6). Like the Zip, the Orb has built-in termination; unlike the Zip, the termination is automatic and active, meaning if the drive senses it is the last thing in the chain, it will turn termination on, and if it senses it is not the last thing in the chain, it will turn termination off. Also, like the Zip, when you insert a disk cartridge, the disk partitions appear on your desktop within seconds, and when you drag the disk partitions to the trash under Finder, the cartridge ejects itself from the drive. Like the Zip, there is one LED which indicates power and disk activity. And also like the Zip, if the drive is not used for a time, it goes into a power conserving "sleep" mode. When attached to an Apple Rev. C SCSI Card in a IIgs, the Orb Drive works like a huge hard drive. The Orb I have even provides term power to the SCSI chain. Using the drive required one condition be met: the drive must have its power applied and the LED must be a solid green (instead of the blinking red) before the power switch on the IIgs is turned on. _Chinook SCSI Utilities_ did not recognize the drive, but Apple's _Advanced Disk Utilities_ did, and partitioned the cartridge readily. After that, the Orb acted just like, well, a 2.2 gig hard drive. It's more space than you will probably ever need with an Apple II. Unfortunately, I could not get the RamFAST SCSI Card to recognize the Orb, which is disappointing. I do not have an Apple High Speed SCSI card available to test the drive with, however, I would guess it would act similarly to with the Rev. C SCSI Card, just a bit faster if DMA is on. I would suspect (but have not experienced yet) that the Orb Drive's "sleep" mode may have similar problems to what Zip Drive owners have experienced with the Apple SCSI Cards. These were addressed by using the Tulin SCSI drivers in combination with the Apple SCSI Cards. If you are an Apple Rev. C SCSI Card user (or an Apple High Speed SCSI Card user who likes to experiment), I would highly recommend the Orb Drive if you're in the market for a new hard drive. It's exceedingly fast, economical, and portable. It appears set to be the next "big thing" in removable storage. Move over, Iomega! [EOA] [KFE]------------------------------ THINKING KFEST | ----------------------------------- THERE'S NOTHING FINER THAN KANSAS CITY IN JULY """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W. [thelamp@delphi.com] KFEST XI: THE REUNION ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Once a year, the Apple II faithful return from all corners of the globe to their Mecca. A small college in Kansas City, Missouri, less than a mile from the Kansas border. They return to see old friends and make new ones; to honor the past and plan the future; and to stay up all night and have fun all day. They came, once again, for KansasFest. KFest 1999 was like every other KFest, yet unlike every other KFest. Like KFests past, we saw new products and made new discoveries. Unlike KFests past, we finally saw the transition of the Apple II--from the venerable Apple IIgs to the world of emulation. So for those of you who weren't able to make it in person, here is our look at the virtual KFest 1999: DAY -4 Like I did in 1998, I decided to fly into California instead of """""" straight to Kansas City so I could visit with some friends and get some shopping done before KFest. I'd again be staying with the Sheppys, aka Eric and Sarah Shepherd. I got home, finished packing, and waited impatiently for my sister to get home so she could drop me off at the airport. I travelled a little lighter this year than usual. For the first time since my first KFest, no Apple II--at least not a physical one. My virtual Apple II, in the form of the renown emulator _Bernie ][ The Rescue_, was packed away on my PowerBook. I checked into the airport with two bags, a backpack, and a small box; all of my Apple II hopes and dreams packed away in my heart. I was leaving home, but going home. Here we come, Avila. DAY -3 I'm not sure when Day -4 ended and Day -3 began, but it was """""" somewhere over the middle of the Pacific Ocean with a change in time zones on a five and a half hour flight. I tried to get as much sleep as I could on the plane, knowing that I probably wouldn't get much sleep at the Sheppys and I'd get almost none at KFest. When I got off the plane, Sheppy was waiting for me. It was before 6 a.m.--again. Somehow, I never end up at the airport at a reasonable hour in San Francisco. We talked a bit about KFests past and KFest future--there were no blockbuster announcements coming this year, at least none we knew about. Announcements, yes; blockbusters, no. Still, we looked forward to seeing old friends and making new ones in the heat of the Kansas City summer. We stopped for breakfast at an IHOP (International House Of Pancakes, for the uninitiated--although I've never been sure what's so international about pancakes, especially the ones they serve there) on the way to the new House Of Sheppy in Tracy, CA. Eric and Sarah had moved here recently and the home turned out to be an absolutely lovely place. I spent a lot of the day trying to relax. I was exhausted from the travel and the weeks leading up to it. Working two jobs and putting out my Apple II writing had begun to take a toll--as much as I don't like to admit it, I needed a vacation, badly. I was only too happy to be away from responsibility. It was also a great day to go to Fry's Electronics. Fry's is a large regional electronics shop that has some great prices (and probably just as many that aren't as great). I walked around for awhile, picking up a few cables and odds and ends that I couldn't get nearly as cheaply at home, then stumbled on something I've been looking for for over a year: a Castlewood Systems Orb Drive external SCSI version (see the review elsewhere in this issue). I approached the register where I'd end up spending about $300 and was greeted by the cashier asking, "Are you Hawaiian?" Maybe the shorts gave me away. DAY -2: Day -2 was almost my ideal vacation day. I did nothing other """"""" than sleep, fool around online, and burn a few CD ROMs. I considered doing a little packing (as my stuff was overflowing in the Sheppys' guest room) but that seemed too close to work to seriously consider. Sheppy was busy working on _Sweet16_, the IIgs emulator for the _BeOS_, and showing off the Weird Al Yankovic DVD he had picked up at Fry's. We also considered the post-KFest PizzaFest that the Sheppys were hosting at their house--SheppyFest, where some KFesters and some missing friends would be hanging out in about a week. Sent some email to my friends at work. "Miss you, wish you were here, glad you are not." Ha ha. This vacation stuff is great! DAY -1 Day -1 was the real pre-KFest training. Unlike the Sheppys, I'd """""" be leaving for KFest to arrive on Day 0. In fact, I'd be leaving so early that we decided to just stay up all night and drop me off at the airport about 4 am. Well, I wasn't planning much sleep anyway, right? No sleep is better when you're KFest bound. DAY 0 It's hard to figure out just when Day 0 began. If tomorrow doesn't """"" come until you fall asleep, I guess it came when I was in the plane from San Francisco to Denver, but before the plane from Denver to K.C. I was tired enough to sleep, although not well, on both flights. When I got off the plane and into the terminal of MCI, famillar after five years, I was fortunate to quickly get my luggage. I headed for the restroom, and who should appear but my ride to Avila, the KFest Taxi Dispatcher, Carl Knoblock. It was great to see a familiar face. I was home again. Carl had his wife's car--his van had picked an unfortunate time to break down. Fortunately, I travelled light, and so did he--instead of bringing his IIgs, as he had every year in the past, his computing equipment consisted of his new PowerBook G3, in a theme that would repeat itself over and over this KFest. We had another person to pick up--Pat Kern, who was flying in this year, instead of coming by land as she had in the past. Between Pat, Carl, and I, we ended up having just enough luggage to pack Carl's wife's car, no more, no less. At least we did once we could find his car again. We ran to Wal-Mart before getting to Avila to pick up a few essentials (including a Diet Coke at McDonald's), and after about an hour of driving, we reached Avila. Home again. We checked in and got our keys, committed the numerical code for Ridgway access to memory (or something), and started to settle in. We weren't the first arrivals--those seemed to be the land travelling trio of Gina Saikin, Dave Miller, and Jeff Blakeney, who showed up at around 6 in the morning in a van with a sign indicating they were KFest bound in a rear window. Some people just can't wait to get KFesting. I arrived earlier than my roommate, Kirk Mitchell, a Kansan who had to drive across the state to get to KFest, so I grabbed "the good bed." After five KFests, I still don't know what "the good bed" means. I was in the midst of setting up when my roommate showed up. We spent the day exchanging insults (my initial opening being, "Do you need help moving your stuff in? If you do, you better find someone who cares.") and setting up Power Macs--his beige G3 minitower, and my Duo 2300c. Friends were already there and arriving by the bucketful--Russ Alman and Mike Wallace of Apple II license plate fame, senior KFester Ephraim Wall and Joyce Sullivan from Oklahoma, Ray Merlin and Erick Wagner from Texas, the Binary Bus with Da Bears (Dave and Ahren Ciotti) and Honorary Bear Ewen Wannop, newsletter publishers Max Jones and Joe Kohn, newbies Luke Weerts and Richard Hansen, and of course, The Big Cheese herself, Cindy Adams. KFest was happening. It was like Christmas. Aside from the usual cruising of the halls to see who was there and make fun of Max Jones' recycled door sign, the rest of the night was spent hanging out and having dinner over at K.C. Masterpiece restaurant. If nothing else, the food was definitely an upgrade from the Avila cafeteria. DAY 1: Since this year's KFest had early arrivals on Tuesday, Wednesday """""" was a less hectic day than in KFests past. More KFesters arrived on Wednesday as well, including _Spectrum Internet Suite_ author Geoff Weiss and InTrec Software's Jerry Cline. It was so much less hectic, in fact, I even got up early enough to do a little shopping. One of the nice things about KFest is that things are near enough that if you forget something (in our case, a long telephone cord), it's easy enough to run out and get. There's Radio Shack, Wal-Mart, CompUSA, and Best Buy all close enough to get stuff, and if you're not into Avila cuisine, there's restaurants close enough to get prepared food as well. I usually just go for a few boxes of cookies and a few 12 packs of soda. The first official KFest event was dinner, which was predictably Avila-like. Following that we were addressed by KFest organizer Cindy Adams, aka The Big Cheese, then we were onto the big show, the keynote address given by my Friend For Life Max Jones, publisher of _Juiced.GS_. Max honored several KFest attendees who came from long distances away and announced that _Juiced.GS_ will continue to be published in 2000. He also announced the first new product of KFest 1999, unfortunately one that was not yet ready for release--the _Juiced.GS_ CD, appropriately titled "Friends For Life". Following the address, _Juiced.GS_ sponsored a reception in the Avila dorm (contrary to rumors, you did not need to have a _Juiced.GS_ tattoo in order to get the first drink free). After a long, long night, sleep finally showed up at 3 a.m. or so. DAY 2 Day 2 began with a trip to the cafeteria for KFest breakfast. """"" I don't think I ever made a KFest breakfast in the first three years I attended, but over the last two, I've made quite a few. Exactly why I've attended those, I'm not sure, but I have and I'll continue to. I mean, cereal, milk, and Diet Pepsi are pretty much the same no matter where you are, and the company at KFest's better than the company at Pete's Pancakes. Although that was how Day 2 began for me, Day 2 for KFest really began with the opening of HackFest at 7 a.m. Organized by Sheppy, HackFest, in its second year, is a KFest programming contest. Come up with something new Apple II, work on it during HackFest, and maybe win a prize. There were cash prizes, software, and books available for the participants. Anyone could enter, and anyone could win. Day 2, like the other days coming, presented a KFest tradition and a KFest rarity. The tradition as expected was dealing with tough choices--for instance, do you see Sheppy's "ToolBox Programming in _GSoft BASIC_" or Joe Kohn's storytelling? The rarity was that since there were fewer sessions than usual, there were fewer times when we needed to choose. I started my KFest sessions by seeing Ewen Wannop explain the anatomy of _Crock O' Gold_, the sophisticated set of _Spectrum_ scripts that make up the powerful Delphi offline reader. Ewen showed how nearly anything could be done with scripts--evidence that _Spectrum_ could do everything. Evidence that would be important later. Following Ewen, Sheppy presented some perspective and history on things he's programmed as well as his style. Sheppy discussed some of his history of programming with the Apple IIgs and went over the development of the brilliant _Shifty List_ program, and how he thought it was, at best, a neat hack. _Shifty List_ has gone onto be an award-winning utility. Sheppy's use of _Shifty List_ as an example allowed him to discuss some of the relationship between beta testers and programmers and how testers can have influence on what the final product looks like. After a mostly forgettable lunch, "Hot Pepper" Dave Carey showed us all how to use the venerable _Print Shop GS_ and _Print Shop Companion_ to do things that most of us couldn't even imagine doing. Dave's KFest door was filled with posters created with these well-used programs, and Dave is well known for his unmatched prowess in creating beautiful art work. Dave showed how even the rank novice can create something beautiful. After this came a true Geek's session. Australian Richard Bennett, possibly best known as author of _Marinetti_, showed off how to use the long time yet mysterious programmer's debugging tool _GSBug_. Very few people, including the programmers attending, knew how to use _GSBug_ the way Richard does. Richard gave a rundown of functions and commands as well as real-world examples of how to use _GSBug_ to best effect. Here, Tony Diaz of Alltech Electronics showed off his new product--a CDROM collection called _A2-ROMulan_, including some rare things not seen in years. The CD would be available for sale for the first time at the vendor fair on Saturday. Later that night was dinner and a ride out to Sean Fahey's place. Sean is an avid Apple II user and collector who often gets calls from people who are ready to dispose of some Apple iI equipment. Sean opened up his garage to let us in and we saw what must have been more than a hundred Apple II's of every vintage, as well as associated equipment. Sean was mostly wanting to simply clear space out in the garage so he could fit his new car in, and was not asking for money, but would take donations to give to the women's shelter his wife volunteers at. Sean's act of kindness and goodwill is exactly what KFest is about. Late night KFest activities included the usual--movies, hanging out, checking out other people's computers. For the first time, it appeared that virtual Apple II's have eclipsed physical ones at KFest--I counted more Power Macs running _Bernie_ than I did Apple IIgs boxes. DAY 3: I was still able to wake up early enough for KFest breakfast. """""" That wouldn't last, of course, but the fact that I could still do it on a Friday was nothing short of amazing. For my efforts I won a bet with Max Jones--his roommate was now enslaved to me. I think Ewen was less than amused with the news. Apple Computer's Craig Foos came to show us some new software, including QuickTime 4 and some video editing software, followed by Stan Marks discussing the _AppleWorks GS_ database and Gina Saikin giving technical tips. Stan impressed the Avila crowd with his mastery of the database module, which led The Big Cheese herself to challenge the KFest crowd to come up with their own topic to present at KFest 2000. It seems Stan only decided to do his session after a lot of badgering by Mrs. Adams, as he didn't think he had a lot to offer to the KFest crowd. It turns out, of course, he did. Following lunch we saw a difficult choice: Joe Kohn's storytelling or Sheppy's ToolBox programming in _GSoft BASIC_. I split time between the two, hearing some of Joe's early years with BIg Red Computer Club and The Source, and seeing how easy it was to create an authentic SYS16 program with _GSoft BASIC_. That session has sold me on the power that Mike Westerfield put into the hands of the people last year. This was followed by a session on user groups and Sheppy presenting the _BeOS_. As a _Be_ user, I stayed and watched jaws drop as they oohed and aahed over the multimedia operating system. Sheppy also showed off two _BeOS_ programs by Kelvin Sherlock which were ported over from the IIgs--_BeShisen_ and _Be FlameStation_. Way to go Kelvin! The KFest banquet was held next, with the presentation of awards--winners this year included Giselle Schnaubelt, Dave and Ahren Ciotti, Ken Gagne, and others. Congratulations to all our KFest contest winners. Before the big reason we were at the banquet came to pass, The Big Cheese announced that yes, there would be a KFest 2000! Ewen Wannop will be working on the new logo design once he returns to England and recovers from the main event, which came next. As the victim of honor, Ewen Wannop endured slings from Joe Kohn, Max Jones, Geoff Weiss, Richard Bennett, and myself. From sheep jokes to page three girls to jabs about England's police system ("Stop! Stop! Or I'll yell 'Stop!' again!") to knightings, Ewen was thoroughly roasted. He even had a song about _Spectrum_ sung to him and faced the dual questions of what parts of _Spectrum_ he actually wrote and what can anyone else write when _Spectrum_ already does everything. Ewen took it all in fun and dished it out in return, and got a standing ovation for his part. The rest of Friday night was spent talking shop and hanging out. Sleep was mostly unknown, but the extra day at KFest was having an effect. The length of KFest would be about perfect--one more day and people would be falling asleep during meals, not just during sessions. DAY 4 Saturday morning saw new product demonstrations and the """"" announcement of HackFest winners. Starting with fifth place, the HackFest winners were: Cindy Adams (using a _Spectrum_ script) to prove she could; Jeff Blakeney (using _GSoft BASIC) creating a Binary II wrapper stripper; Richard Bennett (using, of course, assembly) making an iMac mouse emulator for the IIgs; Shawn Beattie (using _GSoft BASIC_) with his Y][KFest countdown; and Ken Gagne (using a _Spectrum_ script) for a database inspired by Max Jones. It didn't hurt that Max was one of the judges, I guess. The products shown off included the shareware products _Silvern Castle_, an 8-bit game written in Applesoft BASIC by Jeff Fink and _SpeedReadPlus_, an upgrade of a IIgs program by Terry Morris, both shown by Max Jones; _Sweet16 1.0_, the IIgs emulator for the _BeOS_ originally by F.E. Systems and now maintained by Eric Shepherd; the official _Bernie ][ the Rescue Starter Kit_ by Ewen Wannop (distributed by Shareware Solutions II) and the _Marinetti MacIP Link Layer Module_ from Richard Bennett. This was followed by the vendor fair, where the hardcore Apple II fanatics could get hardware and software at bargain prices. That night was the informal jaunt out. I went to Jess & Jim's with a bunch of KFesters and had more meat than I've had since last KFest. KFest was ending again, sadly, but there was one more KFest miracle this year. As we left Jess & Jim's, we spotted a personalized license plate from Missouri. The word on it? BERNIE DAY 5: Time to go. Again. For a few days in the heat of the July """""" summer, my heart is nowhere else. I gathered up my things and caught a ride with The Big Cheese herself; we got some lunch and some shopping done, then got to the airport. I ran into Steve Gozdziewski by surprise there; his flight had been delayed home. I could stay up all night and day thinking of folks to thank, but I guess the ultimate thanks is to everyone. Let's do it again next year. Make time stand still. :: DISCUSSED ON DELPHI :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: : : : What can you do at 3 AM? Psssttt - got a modem?? : : : ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: LUMITECH :::::: [EOA] [INN]------------------------------ EXTRA INNINGS | ----------------------------------- About The Lamp! The Lamp! is published on the fifteenth of every month in """"""""""""""" the Database of the II Scribe Forum on the Delphi online service (GO CUS 11). This publication produced entirely with real or emulated Apple II computers using Appleworks 5.1 and Hermes. Apple II Forever! * The Lamp! is (c) copyright 1999 by Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W. All rights reserved. * To reach The Lamp! on Internet email send mail to thelamp@sheppyware.net * Back issues of The Lamp! are available in the II Scribe Forum on Delphi as well as The Lamp! 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