[HEA] _____________________ ___ _ |___ ______________| | | | | | | _ | | | | | || | | | | | | || | | | | | | || | | | ____ _ _ _ _ ______ | | | || | | | / __ \ | | / \_/ \ | ___ \ | | | || |__ ____ | | / / \ | | /\ /\ \ | | \ \ | | | || _ \ | _ \ | | \ \__/ | | | |_|| | | |__/ / | | | || | | || |_|| | | \___/|_| |_| |_| | ____/ |_| | || | | || |__ | |____________________ | | _ |__||_| |_|\____/ |________________________| | | |_| | | Lighting Your Apple II Path On Delphi | | |_| >>> WELCOME TO THE LAMP! <<< ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ THE VIRTUAL ][: Sheppy's ImageMaker Boosts Bernie's Bones AND THE BEST OF THE A2 AND A2PRO MESSAGE BOARDS "Teaching the Apple II user how to fish since 1998" :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: The Lamp! An Onipa'a Software Production Vol. 2, No. 3 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Publisher & Editor.......................Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. Internet Email....................................thelamp@sheppyware.net :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: TABLE OF CONTENTS ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ March 15, 1999 OPENING PITCH Oh My Lord, We're Going To The Dance! -------------------------- [OPN] GOING POSTAL Letters To The Editor ------------------------------------------ [POS] A FUNNY THING HAPPENED [FOR] The Heat Is On ------------------------------------------------- [HET] Miscellanea [MSC] Rumor Mill ----------------------------------------------------- [RMR] Public Postings [PUB] Best Of The Best ----------------------------------------------- [BOB] A2Pro_DUCTIVITY Checking out A2PRO on Delphi ----------------------------------- [A2P] THE VIRTUAL ][ Sheppy's ImageMaker Boosts Bernie's Bones ---------------------- [TVT] EXTRA INNINGS About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN] [*] [*] [*] READING THE LAMP! The index system used by The Lamp! is designed to make """"""""""""""""" your reading easier. To use this system, load this issue into any word processor or text editor. In the index you will find something like: EXTRA INNINGS About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN] To read this article, simply use your search or find command to locate [INN]. There is a similar tag at the end of each article: [EOA]. :: DISCUSSED ON DELPHI :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: : : : I had my head examined. They didn't find *anything*! : : : :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: TONYW1 ::::::::: [EOA] [OPN]------------------------------ OPENING PITCH | ----------------------------------- From The Editor """"""""""""""" by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W. [thelamp@sheppyware.net] OH MY LORD, WE'RE GOING TO THE DANCE! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A few years ago, when the University of Hawai'i men's basketball team earned its way into the National Collegiate Athletic Association championship tournament--known alternatively as "March Madness" and "The Big Dance"--with an improbable run through an impossible field of Western Athletic Conference opponents, legend has it one of the homegrown players on the Hawai'i roster screamed at the top of his lungs, "Oh my Lord, we're going to the dance!" Who wouldn't be excited? March Madness is a gathering of the best of college athletics in this country, and while some may leave disappointed, no one regrets going, although many regret squandering the chance to go. The Apple II Community has its own Big Dance--it's called KansasFest. It is indeed a gathering of the best the Apple II world has to offer, but unlike college basketball's Big Dance, no one leaves disappointed, unless it's because they couldn't do everything they wanted to, and like college basketball's Big Dance, many regret squandering their chance to go. Unlike March Madness, the field isn't limited to those who are invited only--or rather, everyone's invited. Don't live with regrets--go to the dance. [*] [*] [*] Late Breaking News Department: here is an official announcment from Glen Bredon and Charlie's AppleSeeds, the author and publisher of the ultimate Apple II and IIgs utilities, _ProSEL 8_ and _ProSEL 16_: Official Announcement March 6, 1999 September will end 10 years that Charlie's AppleSeeds has published and sold ProSel and ProSel-16 for Glen Bredon. Demand for things Apple II is almost nonexistent and for that reason, I asked for and was granted, by E-mail, permission to announce that ProSel and ProSel-16 will be moved to the Public Domain. (See Glen Bredon's message below) Upgrades by disk and new copies by disk will be $10, regardless whether it is ProSel 8 or ProSel-16. This will cover my costs for materials, time and effort and postage. A copy of the manual will be $14. Book and ProSel-16 disk, $24. Postage is included in all prices. I will split whatever net I get from this, with Glen, as usual. Charlie's AppleSeeds will not upload these programs to any online service. ANY uploads of ProSel or ProSel-16, to be properly uploaded as Public Domain, should be the latest versions of the programs. This announcement does not include earlier versions as part of the Public Domain. To do otherwise would be a disservice not only to any new user, but to the programmer, Professor Glen E. Bredon. The OFFICIAL versions that are recognized as Public Domain are: ProSel-16, v 8.84 ProSel 8, v 4.0 ANY upload of these programs MUST include this text file, unchanged in any way, in its entirety. Chuck Charlie's AppleSeeds 9081 Hadley Place San Diego CA 92126-1523 619-566-0387 Subj: phone call Date: 02/21/1999 3:32:00 PM Pacific Standard Time From: bredon@sierratel.com (Glen Bredon) To: chucknewby@aol.com (Chuck Newby) Chuck: To confirm our phone conversation: I give my permission to place ProSel 8 and ProSel 16 in public domain. In case anyone asks, however, I will not supply source code. It is just a simple matter that access to the old files is problematic - the GS was getting very touchy before I retired it from my desk. Also, it would just be too much of a bother to get things together. I am now doing mostly photography on my pretty new PowerMac G3. I even have a web site containing a bunch of my photos (see below). Glen Bredon Visit my Photographic Web Site: http://www.sierratel.com/bredon Contents Copyright (c) Charlie's AppleSeeds & Glen E. Bredon, 1999. Chuck Newby Thanks, Chuck and Glen. That is great news. The Delphi A2 Database staff is working on getting the official versions now considered public domain ready for upload to Delphi. If you happen to find _ProSel_ on an Internet ftp site or BBS, please check to see if it's the current version, if the text file is included, and, if it's a bootable diskette, if the site has a license to distribute the Apple System Software as well. _ProSel_, in both versions, is an exceptionally useful set of utilities, but it can also be exceptionally dangerous, and it was upgraded as much as it was for good reasons. Be careful. In the meantime, we'll add _ProSel_ to the list of things we hope to cover in _The Lamp!_. [*] [*] [*] Let's Dance Department: KansasFest 1999 registration is on _now_! Your chance to hang out with the best the Apple II world has to offer is right before your eyes. Early registration discount prices will be going on for another month. Don't miss this opportunity to make the pilgrimage to Avila College part of your summer. You can find out more information on the KFest Home page at http://www.kfest.org. Remember: there's nothing finer than Kansas City in July. Be good. We'll be back in thirty. Ryan thelamp@sheppyware.net ASCII ART BEGINS _________ _ _ _ |__ __| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |___ ____ | | _____ __ ___ _ _ _____ | | | | | ___ \ / __ \ | | /____ \ | v v | | v ___ \ | | | | | | | | | /__\ \ | | ____| | | /\ /\ | | / \ \ | | | | | | | | | _____| | | / ___ | | || || | | | | | |_| | | | | | | | |_____ | |____ | |__| | | || || | | \___/ / _ |_| |_| |_| \______| |______| \____^_| |_||_||_| | |\____/ |_| | | | | |_| ASCII ART ENDS [EOA] [POS]------------------------------ GOING POSTAL | ----------------------------------- Letters To The Editor """"""""""""""""""""" Hello Ryan, I just want to drop a quick note thanking you for publishing The Lamp! I really do appreciate it and I glean much needed info from it as an Apple II user, enthusiast, and die hard fan. It's an excellent publication, and ranks right up there with my Juiced.GS and Shareware Solutions II publications which I receive. I hope you have a great weekend Ryan! regards, perry dueck pmd@escape.ca http://www.escape.ca/~pmd Thanks, Perry. I'm amazed sometimes by how little mail we get here at _The Lamp!_, yet this month we had two nice letters. It's nice to know I'm not just doing this stuff for my health (tongue planted firmly in cheek).--RMS [EOA] [OPN]------------------------------ A FUNNY THING HAPPENED. . . . | ----------------------------------- Checking out A2 on Delphi """"""""""""""""""""""""" by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W. [thelamp@sheppyware.net] * The Heat Is On * Miscellanea * Rumor Mill * Public Postings * Best Of The Best THE HEAT IS ON """""""""""""" [*] General Chatter ....... More On Apple Manuals Online [*] Apple Operating System ....... Using HFS+ Via Appleshare [*] Hardware Hacker ....... RamFASTs And More Than 4 Megs [*] Apple Operating System ....... How To Reset AppleTalk? [*] Graphics and Sound ....... Bill Lynn Surfaces On Delphi MISCELLANEA """"""""""" SPECCIE ON MODEMS, CONTINUED It might be thought that even if you make a """""""""""""""""""""""""""" 300 baud connection, but have a modem capable of 57600 baud, then it is OK to connect to the modem at that high speed. You think that the data will only be arriving at 300 baud... But that is not the case! If you have a computer to modem speed of 57600 baud, then the data will arrive at the computer at that speed, regardless of how fast it actually arrived at the modem. The result could be loss of data if the interrupt system on your computer cannot keep up with that high baud rate. The golden rule is to set the computer to modem speed the same as the highest you will be connecting at, or the next highest speed if that one does not exist in your comms program. This rule was fine until modems got up to 57600 baud. Now we must temper that rule by also defining how efficient the interrupt chain is in your particular computer. At high baud rates, it is also vital that you have the correctly wired Hardware Handshake cable from your computer to the modem. If you have a //e, then I would guess that 38400 baud may be the fastest you can manage, though you might be able to go faster. If you have a IIgs, and shift-boot into P8 to run ProTerm, then you should have no problem with even a stock unaccelerated machine at 57600 baud. Running a desktop comms program like Spectrum, gives you a longer interrupt chain, and so things will work slower. Even with a shift-boot, I would expect an unnaccelerated machine to have problems with 38400 baud. Accelerate it, and 38400 baud will work well. Run a IIgs emulator such as Bernie ][ the Rescue on a Macintosh of at least 100Mhz, and you will be able to go to the full 57600 baud. The collection of Inits and DAs you have can also have a bearing on all this, and must be taken into consideration if you get any data loss or errors. Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Tue 1 Feb 2000 - 195 days till KFest '99 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 2.6 Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.0 woofing on a PowerMac 8200/120 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/ (EWANNOP, 20001, GO COM A2) NUFX AND BINARY II RULES FOR DELPHI UPLOADS AS PER CONAN Actually, the """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" rules go something like this: 1) All files must be packed with ShrinkIt and wrapped in Binary II, except for platform-independent files such as GIF and JPEG, and the rare Macintosh files which are Stuffed and MacBinaried. 2) The ShrinkIt archive name must match the Binary II name. In other words, NEATGAME.BXY had better have NEATGAME.SHK inside, and the filetype on NEATGAME.SHK had better be correct ($E0/$8002.) 3) No disk archives or self-extracting archives unless absolutely necessary. The former is usually reserved for non-ProDOS disks and disks that use Apple's Installer. The latter is not used at all except for the ShrinkIt program itself (it's easier for newbies to unpack it that way...usually.) That's pretty much it. Some people pack multiple file archives in their own folders, but that's certainly not a requirement. In fact, it takes a tiny bit of unnecessary space that way. ShrinkIt has an option to create a new folder to unpack files into, so that's not a problem anyway. If you open an archive that's got 51 files not enclosed in a folder, make one yourself. It is customary, but not required, that the archive name in some way resemble what's inside. For example, it's nice to put a game called "Neat Game" in an archive called NEATGAME.BXY instead of MISC.STUFF.BXY. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Tony Ward, A2 Database Manager - Tue Feb 09, 1999 4:33:58 am [Delivered with Spectrum v2.2 and Crock O' Gold] -- I am not a dictator. It's just I have a grumpy face. (TONYW1, 20263, GO COM A2) <<<<< Here's one reason for not putting multiple files inside a folder """"" when you make the ShrinkIt archive. Let's say I download an upgrade of a program I already own. I want to have ShrinkIt overwrite the old files as they are unpacked. If the files were archived inside a folder, then I have to make sure the folder name on my disk match the one the author used when he made the archive. If they don't match, I have to unpack into a separate folder, quit ShrinkIt, and copy the files to where they belong. Okay, that's probably an extreme example but I think it makes my point. As for shell unpacking, doesn't yankit have an option to list the contents of an archive? I know it's an extra step, but it would solve the problem. - Tony (TONYW1, 20281, GO COM A2) CREATING USABLE GWIII IMAGES WITH A QUICKIE If you have GWIII v2.0 or """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" above, try this: 1) Install the Quickie NDA - and reboot your system. At least on my system, if I install NDAs via IR and then go into GWIII v2.0, I get the 'about' dialog when I choose the newly added NDA. 2) Launch GWIII and create/open the document of interest. 3) Open the Quickie NDA and scan/open the graphic that you want in the GWIII document. 4) Using the 'marquee' tool in the Quickie NDA, outline the area of the picture that you want in the document and do a Command-C (or choose Copy from the Quickie NDA's Edit menu) 5) Click on the GWIII document window and do Edit/Paste. 6) If necessary, resize the picture with the 'object properties' dialog. Don't try to resize it by dragging the frame. See if that helps... (DZAHNISER, 20042, GO COM A2) COMPUSERVE CLOSES APPUSER FORUM We've known for months of the upcoming """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""" changes on CompuServe, and how at some point, the Apple II forum (Appuse) would become inaccessible to those who own only an Apple II computer. We just never knew exactly when the changes would take place. But just the other day, we were informed that the end was near. I was hoping that we'd be able to get in one final Monday night multi-system chat before the Appuse forum was no longer accessible to those with an Apple II, and to that end, I urged 100 Apple II users on CompuServe to show up tonight in order to "send a message" to the 'powers that be' at CompuServe. As it turns out, that last little bit of Apple II rabble rousing may have been fun, but when I tried logging onto Appuse this morning, I found out that we won't be able to show the CompuServe big-wigs that we take our "Apple II Forever" slogan seriously. They went ahead and shut the Appuse forum. There is, however, a little justice in the world. The Apple II area on CompuServe now resides within the Mac Hardware forum, and as an early-riser, I was able to snag the first Apple II message on that new area. Using my Apple II "PowerBot" peripheral, I made sure that the welcoming message stated the obvious..."Apple II Forever!" Oh well. It was fun while it lasted, but it looks like our multi-system chat is now down to just Delphi and Genie. Joe Kohn (JOE_KOHN, 20016, GO COM A2) >>>>> Hi all, """"" I wasn't sure where to put this; I hope it isn't too evil of me to start a new thread. This news is a few days old but I didn't see it mentioned in the message base here, so... As of Monday, the Apple II User Forum on CompuServe - GO APPUSER - is no longer accessible via ASCII. In fact, the forum itself no longer exists. All that remains is message Section 14/Apple II and file Library 16/Apple II in the Macintosh Hardware Forum, GO MACHW. A few years ago CompuServe started switching from the 36-bit computers used to run ASCII forums as APPUSER, to new 32-bit systems running NISA (New Information System Architecture, I think). Both systems could be accessed by a program that employed HMI (Human Micro Interface?), CompuServe's proprietary data protocol; but in order to trim costs and also to make room for new WebView forums, the new machines no longer have ASCII support. Forums for which ASCII support was integral to their subject material, such as APPUSER, have been maintained, but it is now reported that these forums are not Y2K-compliant; and rather than upgrade them, all remaining ASCII forums are now either being switched to NISA, or are being absorbed by NISA forums (as was the case with APPUSER). The chance of an HMI-capable program ever existing for the Apple II is zilch. CompuServe refuses to release the programming specs. Macintosh users can use MacCIM or MacNav - these are two of a handful of Mac HMI programs. Apple II users can still logon to CompuServe's ASCII side and access whatever is still available through that format: email, Executive News Service, Grolier's Encyclopedia, etc. CIS can also be used as an ISP with Marinetti. The updates to ShiftyList, WebWorks, and Bernie should be available in MACHW later this week. (KEN_GAGNE, 20081, GO COM A2) >>>>> An interesting sidenote: When I got the "your software isn't """"" compatible with the forum" message on CIS Monday morning, I called CIS to cancel my account. I was informed by the nice lady I talked to that since I had been a CIS subscriber since 1986, they could offer me a special status: I no longer will have to pay a minimum monthly charge for having a CIS account. I can let this account sit dormant for years into the future with no problems, and should I decide to log on, I'll only be charged $1.95/hr. and I can upgrade my account status at any time. She then asked why I was going to cancel (I did take the new acct. status, BTW), and I told her that CIS was of little use to me with the Apple II area turned off. Not ony was she unaware that there HAD been an Apple II section on the system she was a cust.ser rep for, it turns out that she owns an Apple //e, and is interested in getting it back up and running and on the net. I pointed her to the A2 Motherboard, and Delphi, and I think she may join here. Score one for the Apple //. :) later............Howard (HKATZ, 20085, GO COM A2) >>>>> The passing (well, for the most part, passing) of the Apple II """"" areas on CSi is indeed sad news, but to be honest, for the most part they were already a part of Apple II history. Just as Genie made an effort years ago to take in the refugees from AOL when they dropped Apple II support, I'd like to invite anyone who is a CSi refugee (well, actually, I guess they're AOL refugees too :) to come on over to Delphi. The future of the Apple II is in our hands. - Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution (RSUENAGA, 20105, GO COM A2) WHICH 8-BIT II? Shame on you! An enhanced IIe with additional cards will """"""""""""""" knock the spots of any IIC and you can easily add a hard drive; try that with a IIC. Admittedly a IIC looks cute, but the keyboard is only good for small fingers, memory is very limited; even with a 1 meg card; and the regular monitor is very small. 3.5" drives are easy to attach to a IIe, but only certain ones work with a IIC. Hope I have made my point. TTFN, Tee Cashmore PS: I have lots of software that will run on either. (TEEC, 20190, GO COM A2) >>>>> Well, I generally agree with you that a //e is far more expandable, """"" more easily, than a //c or //c+, but let's not sell those short. :) I have a //c+ here which is the most used 8-bit II I have. Granted, it's a rather hot-rodded //c+, but hey, what else would you expect from me :) I have five //e's on the shelf, and one in the closet (that is working, and will, someday, be a BBS computer). - Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution (RSUENAGA, 20208, GO COM A2) SHELL GAMES WITH ISPS Well, there are actually two kinds of shell """"""""""""""""""""" accounts: 1) The dial up shell; and 2) The telnet only shell. If you have the former type, it's something in your dialing. For instance, several of the ISP's I have dealt with have you put a P before your username when logging into them via dial up to indicate a PPP connect; without the P, it would be a dial up shell. Telnet only shells mean that once you have a PPP connect, you open up a telnet session to their shell. You'll have to check with your provider to see which you have. - Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution (RSUENAGA, 20212, GO COM A2) >>>>> Each ISP is a little bit different, but it's almost always done by """"" varying your username at the "login:" prompt. The better ISPs help you out by displaying instructions at login time, but many do not. My ISP does it by adding a character to the start of your username: username : PPP Pusername : Force dynamic IP PPP login Susername : SLIP Cusername : CSLIP Rusername : Rlogin Adam Nusername : Rlogin Nathan Adam and Nathan are the names of two shell machines. Since usernames are always lowercase, those uppercase characters come in handy for this sort of thing. You will have to contact your ISP to see how they have it setup. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Tony Ward, A2 Database Manager - Mon Feb 08, 1999 2:21:53 am [Delivered with Spectrum v2.2 and Crock O' Gold] -- Never drink whisky on an empty ulcer! (TONYW1, 20243, GO COM A2) CARL ON APPLIED ENGINEERING HIGH DENSITY FLOPPIES I have one of the AE HD """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" drives. It came with a driver to do 1.6M using the GS floppy port, but I bought it with an Apple 3.5" drive controller, alias the Apple Superdrive controller. When used with the Superdrive controller, it uses the 3.5 driver supplied with System 6.0.1, which supports the 1.44M format. You can have 1.6M or 1.44M, but not both at the same time. I chose the more standard, and interchangeable, 1.44M format. Also, the AE driver, used on the floppy port, will not read MSDOS disks from your Wintel machine, or write MSDOS disks that can be read on your Wintel machine. -- Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Sat 13 Feb 99 8:30:30 pm cknoblo@novia.net - Via Spectrum v2.2 & Crock O' Gold v2.6 KansasFest 11, July 21-25, 1999 - 158 days till KFest Posted with delays off. (CKNOBLO, 20413, GO COM A2) THE FORMER FAST EDDIE NARROWS THE GAP ON GUS Many of you know that I've """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" been a Gus fan for years. Some of you know why: Gus is faster. Well, I've just finished some benchmarks on Gus and Bernie 2.0, and thought you might like to see the results. Running on a 300MHz PowerMac G3, a full compile of GSoft BASIC takes: Gus 66 seconds Bernie 2.0 72 seconds In the past, Gus was about twice as fast as Bernie. Getting within 8% of Gus pretty much makes them equivalent. When you consider how many more features Bernie has, and how much better the support is, I'd say Bernie is starting to stack up pretty darn well. If I were paying money, and had to pick one, I think I'd pick Bernie. And since you can't buy Gus at any price... Mike Westerfield (BYTEWORKS, 20276, GO COM A2) <<<<< With a 9MHz (geeze that sounds slow these days) Zip accelerator, """"" the time for a full compile is... (I'm waiting for the compile...) (I'm still waiting...) (...still waiting...) (...tap, tap, tap, tap... still waiting...) OK, it's 12:33, or 753 seconds. Mike Westerfield (BYTEWORKS, 20522, GO COM A2) >>>>> I've been following this discussion, and I'm glad Mike found Bernie """"" a worthwhile substitute for GUS. I've noticed that a number of people have started comparing performance of Gus & Bernie, and while personally I believe that it's pointless comparing two emulators that are representatives of the same MHz class, my programmer's ego wants me to comment on the various figures given earlier. SpeedTest, a GUI benchmarking program, is considered a real-world performance test. I will let the figures speak for themselves. 256 colors thousands GUS d3 240 282 Bernie 210 209 256 colors test done at forced 60Hz. Thousands of colors test done at 15Hz which GUS seems to use by default. Host machine G3/300/1MbL2@150Mhz. (GUDATH, 20327, GO COM A2) <<<<< That's an interesting benchmark, too. It also points out that when """"" speed is a concern you have to test a computer doing tasks that are typical of what you generally do on the computer. While this is an important benchmark for many people, it doesn't mean a lot to me--but the speed of development tools processing my programs obviously means a great deal to me. :) Mike Westerfield (BYTEWORKS, 20343, GO COM A2) >>>>> I consider the benchmark important, but by no means a good """"" comparison (the only thing it proved was that Bernie handled small section of graphics redraw better than GUS at 16-bit color mode). Full screen redraw tests can use Task Force and Rastan. Other comparisons are needed like compiling a program as Mike said (this is one of the most popular methods of comparing systems). Also, performing several common tasks with AppleWorks GS such as sorting a database, finding text in a document, spell checking, etc. File I/O such as booting and loading several common programs would be needed as well. 8-bit application comparison would be interesting, but IMO not important. But since GUS isn't publicly available, I'm not sure if it is worth going through all that. Geoff (SISGEOFF, 20344, GO COM A2) >>>>> For me, the best benchmark was the WolfyMark test. """"" On my 9 MHz IIgs, it takes 1 hour, 45 minutes to do a full compile of Wolf 3D in ORCA/C. On a Power Mac 8100, in Bernie, it took 45 minutes to do a full build of Wolf 3D in ORCA/C. On a Power Mac G3/266, in Bernie, it takes 1 minute, 45 seconds. On a Power Mac G3/266, in Gus, it takes 1 minute, 32 seconds. On a Power Mac 8500 with two 180 MHz PowerPC 604e processors, in Sweet16 on BeOS, it takes 1 minute, 22 seconds. On the same Power Mac 8500, two processors, running Bernie in the SheepShaver Mac OS environment for BeOS, it takes 1 minute, 12 seconds. Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@sheppyware.net http://www.sheppyware.net (SHEPPY, 20355, GO COM A2) TRACKING CRASHES TO EDITMENUICONS? Within the past week or two, there was """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" some discussion about the init 'EditMenuIcons'. I said that I had deleted it from my system because I had problems with it, but couldn't remember what they were. Well, I decided to re-install it because I do really like the icons in the Edit menu. However... For those with EditMenuIcons installed, here's an experiment you can try, if you like. I would be interested to hear if others get the same response as I do. 1) Launch WWPro, SnowTerm, or QuickClickCalc. This experiment doesn't produce the same result with GraphicWriter III v2.1. 2) Open IRNDA 2.0, and load an NDA. Try ASCIIHelper, GSCII+, ShowMe!, or MightyUnits. It didn't work when I loaded MemoryMonitor. 3) Close the NDA you opened and the IRNDA 2.0 window. 4) Move your mouse cursor to the File menu, click and hold, and drag over to the Edit menu, and see what happens. **** My system immediately crashes **** I have SysFail Plus 2.3 installed, and it displays the same error message, resource ID and call information no matter which of the above programs I am in or which DA I am trying to load. My system also crashes with the same error if I try to load one of the above NDAs with Accessory Chooser, FontDA 2.0, and one other DA loader NDA that I tried. If I deactivate EditMenuIcons, the errors go away. One variant that I have seen is that within LaunchBox, which normally has a dimmed Edit menu, the dimmed icons and Command-keystrokes are displayed, but the words Cut, Paste, and Copy are missing. Otherwise, no problem, except I launched a program and was able to crash my system by just selecting File and dragging over to the Edit menu in the launched program. (DZAHNISER, 20296, GO COM A2) >>>>> Very interesting, Don. Following your steps I crashed just like you """"" did, and removing EditMenuIcons cured the problem. Normally I blame this sort of Resource error on an application (or NDA) not keeping track of the resource path, but the one program which normally exhibits this sort of error for me, Wings, doesn't crash at all. WWPro and QuickClickCalc are the only two programs I've found so far that cause this crash, and I don't use either one very often. I also don't often perform the exact sequence of steps that causes the crash so it's no wonder I've never noticed it. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Tony Ward, A2 Database Manager - Thu Feb 11, 1999 12:12:41 am [Delivered with Spectrum v2.2 and Crock O' Gold] -- 1991 - The Year of the Palindrome (TONYW1, 20310, GO COM A2) <<<<< AWGS is another program that, following the steps I indicated, """"" keeps the icons and Command-Key equivalents, but loses the names of the common Edit menu functions - At least it did in the WP module when I tried it. (DZAHNISER, 20321, GO COM A2) >>>>> This and QuickClickCalc are what I was using when I noticed """"" problems with EditMenuIcons. That's when I removed it from my system. Jeff Carr Thu, 11 Feb 99 @ 8:26:47 Cruising the 'rainbow' path provided by: Spectrum v2.2 and Crock O' Gold v2.6 This is as useful as underarm deodorant for snakes. (LUMITECH, 20357, GO COM A2) >>>>> I don't have an NDA loader installed, but I have had some """"" "interesting" crashes, and other strange effects recently. I may just inactivate EditMenuIcons for a while, to see if these things go away. Before EditMenuIcons was installed, I had a very stable system. -- Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Sat 13 Feb 99 9:14:55 pm cknoblo@novia.net - Via Spectrum v2.2 & Crock O' Gold v2.6 KansasFest 11, July 21-25, 1999 - 158 days till KFest Posted with delays off. (CKNOBLO, 20415, GO COM A2) TONY AND HAROLD SERVE UP OLD SIDER The Siders (that boot into DOS 3.3, """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" which sounds like what you have) are setup to boot in whatever slot they were formatted/installed in. There is a slot change program on the drive. Normally people used them in slot 7, in some cases, slot 5. Could possibly be slot 6 in your case. There is a 4 byte patch in the DOS 3.3 RWTS that hooks into the Sider I/O firmware. Thus, INITializing a disk with the slot set to a particular slot will also allow access to a Sider from a certain slot. Old stuff.. While I do remember some other locations in DOS 3.3 RWTS, the Sider I/O, I do not. The default format was a little of each partition type, DOS 3.3, ProDOS, Pascal and CP/M. You could mix the sizes but you had to have some of each unless you did the drive by hand, that is, running 'BRUN INSTALL.PT4' and right after hitting return hit either E or R, so that it's the next key waiting in the buffer. If it's the right key you will get a menu that allows you to bypass all the glitzy gory graphics and questions of the Sider/Xebec Trustor software and get right to the partitioning. It's not for the faint at heart. You need to figure the drive geometry and break it down into sectors/tracks. Tony (T_DIAZ, 20406, GO COM A2) >>>>> SASI was the precursor of SCSI. At the hardware level it is almost """"" identical to SCSI, but at the command level there are some differences. (SASI = Shugart Associates System Interface, SCSI = Small Computer System Interface) -Harold HdwrNut on EFNet and AIM Posted by ProTERM Mac Messenger The most damaging phrase in the language is: "It's always been done that way." (HAROLD_H, 20423, GO COM A2) THE APPLESOFTAHOLIC ON NEW PRINT SHOP Several months ago I posted on csa2 """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" an answer to a question about copying New Print Shop from 5.25" discs onto 3.5" discs. I am also posting the message here, in case anybody missed it on csa2. Last summer a question was posted about transferring the New Print Shop program from 5.25" discs onto a 3.5" disc. I have been experimenting with this problem, and have successfully done such a transfer. Here is how I did it. First, format the 3.5" disc and name it NPS. Then, create 2 subdirectories on the disc, whose names should be PS and PSL.DATA3. The PS subdirectory will be for the program files, and the PSL.DATA3 subdirectory will be for the graphics, fonts and borders. Now, set the prefix to PSL.DATA3, and create 4 new subdirectories under PSL.DATA3. These 4 new subdirectories will be named GRAPHICS, FONTS, BORDERS and USER. Now you need to copy the program files from the 5.25" discs onto the 3.5" disc. The program files are on the disc labelled PROGRAM DISC, and are on both sides of the disc. Copy the files PRODOS and PS.SYSTEM onto the 3.5" disc under the root directory. Copy all the files from both sides of the disc, with the exception of PRODOS, onto the 3.5" disc under the subdirectory PS. There will be some duplicates of files on side A and side B. Now you need to fix a few bytes in the PS.SYSTEM program. Since this program was copied into 2 different places on the 3.5" disc, be sure to fix it in both places. It is easiest to do the fix using a block editor, such as ZAP in ProSel. However, you could also BLOAD the program, POKE in the correct values, then BSAVE it back onto disc. Here are the bytes to be fixed: $06 & 07 - change to $01 $20 through 27 - change to $07 2F 4E 50 53 2F 50 The first change tells New Print Shop that it does not have to ask you to flip the disc over for side A or side B to load program modules. The second change tells New Print Shop that program modules are in the subdirectory /NPS/PS. Now you have to put all the New Print Shop graphics, fonts and borders onto the 3.5" disc. These will all go under the subdirectory DATA DISC 2. Copy all the files found in the GRAPHICS subdirectories of both sides of both discs into the /NPS/PSL.DATA3/GRAPHICS subdirectory on the 3.5" disc. Copy all the files from the FONTS directory on both sides of DATA DISC 1 into the /NPS/PSL.DATA3/FONTS subdirectory. Copy all the files from the BORDERS subdirectory on both sides of DATA DISC 1 into the /NPS/PSL.DATA3/BORDERS subdirectory. The New Print Shop program has now been transferred from the 5.25" disc to the 3.5" disc. Gerry Wright (the Applesoft-aholic) gerrywright@delphi.com (GERRYWRIGHT, 20338, GO COM A2) BALLOON BUG LOCATED IN NEW ENGLAND I just found a serious bug in Balloon. """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" When extracting a file that already exists in the destination, it will pop up the usual "Rename/Skip/Overwrite" box. I clicked Skip, and the file was not extracted - but the existing file with that name was deleted. I had a directory and an archive of that directory. I thought the archive had a few extra files so I extracted everything, clicking Skip on those files that already existed. In the end I had an empty directory. -Ken (KEN_GAGNE, 20365, GO COM A2) >>>>> I found that one years ago. Diz was aware of it while he was still """"" on Genie. If it wasn't fixed then, and it wasn't, it is very unlikely to be fixed now. :( (CKNOBLO, 20416, GO COM A2) RYAN ON APPLE BRAND SCSI CARDS There are basically only two Apple branded """""""""""""""""""""""""""""" SCSI cards for the II: 1) The Apple High Speed SCSI Card, and 2) The Apple II SCSI Card, which is more commonly referred to as the Rev. C. Now, while there can be a Rev. A or Rev. B Apple II SCSI Card, the only difference is in the ROM chip, which could be updated for free by Apple some time ago. The last few times I've inquired, though, they insist they can't do it anymore. Whatever. Both will work fine and dandy with an enhanced //e or IIgs (provided it's not a Rev. A or Rev. B) and work well with SCSI hard drives. I haven't tried CDROMs with them, but with appropriate drivers, there's no reason they shouldn't work. . . - Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution (RSUENAGA, 20482, GO COM A2) MUG! AUTHOR ON AHS SCSI ISSUES I too have a Zip and AHS SCSI card. I """""""""""""""""""""""""""""" haven't yet upgraded to the Tulin drivers, although some day I must get around to it. There are a few comments worth making here. 1. It is not so much the card that is the problem, but the GS/OS drivers for it. (Not too surprising when it can be fixed with new drivers!) 2. In ProDOS 8, as far as I can tell there isn't a problem at all because the card is using the ROM drivers on the card itself. This is a very good thing when I'm downloading files in ProTerm! 3. Again as far as I can tell, the problem with the GS/OS driver is very simple. The SCSI time-out value set by the driver (1/4 second?) is too low. (In fact, I've had cause to regret the low value on other occasions in the past.) When the drive "wakes up", the first SCSI call has to wait while the drive spins up, and the time-out value is exceeded. I had a brief look one time but I never did find the location in the driver where the time-out is set. The really frustrating part is that a timeout error doesn't seem to be handled all that well by GS/OS. The system "sort-of" knows it got an error, but somehow "isn't sure", so that all sorts of weirdness can happen. For example, GS/OS may decide that the root directory has been damaged, when in fact a reboot shows that nothing is wrong. OTOH, I *have* lost a root directory on some occasions. :-( One rule of thumb I have is to eject and reinsert the disk if I have come back from ProDOS 8, or if I think the disk has gone to sleep under GS/OS. The workarounds have pretty much become automatic for me, but I really must get the Tulin drivers one day... -- Peter Watson -- Write to MSDOS disks on the Apple IIgs? -- Impossible! ;-) (PETERWATSON, 20788, GO COM A2) THE VALUE OF SHAREWARE This evening I had a really fun time with my """""""""""""""""""""" 9-year-old. Ian's class is starting an introduction to astronomy (stars, planets, the moon, etc.). It just happened that the current issue of Discover magazine, in the regular column about stargazing, has a very good description of viewing the planets in the early evening sky at this time of year. I was driving home this evening with Lady Technophobe, and saw the planets lined up as described in the article. I took Ian out and showed him how Jupiter was aligned with Venus on the horizon, and then... We went inside and I fired up Tonight's Sky. I showed him how the program could display what we'd seen in the western sky, and how the planets would move with time. We then opened the article, and changed the dates in Tonight's Sky to match those in the text. I was able to display and print western sky views that corresponded with the descriptions in the text. Two years ago, there was a conjunction of the planets. I used Tonight's Sky to show the kids how they were coming 'closer' every night. Last year, one of my boys had a Physics lab to do, in which he had to go outside every two hours and plot where the stars were. Problem was, it was total overcast for about a week! I fired up Tonight's Sky, changed the times and printed the results. There was enough detail in the printouts to pick out 'clusters' of stars, and to plot their movement. He was the only kid in the class with anything to show for that lab. (OTOH - he failed Physics miserably last year. Did well this year, tho') It's amazing what the author has packed into this program, and how accurate it is. It's one of those programs that I feel is worth every cent of the Shareware fee I paid... (DZAHNISER, 20702, GO COM A2) WORKING ON THE IMAGEWRITER II To run self-test: """"""""""""""""""""""""""""" 1) Hold down the FormFeed button, then, while holding it, turn it on. 2) After it has finished its little resetting, release the FormFeed. 3) It will automatically run the self-test (continuously) To adjust print darkness: 1) Before printing anything, and with the printer ON. 2) Press the SELECT button. The green light will go out. 3) The PRINT QUALITY light is actually two lights. It defaults to fast. 4) Pressing PRINT QUALITY once will be for a slower and more dense printing. 5) Pressing it again will not only slow further, but make a double pass. 6) After setting the PRINT QUALITY, press SELECT to put the printer back online. You can also increase the density of the printing by using Bold Face, if it is available, in your program. CHunk_S Your A2 Forum Host (go com a2) Visit us at: Delivered by OLRight! (v4.0) scripts for ANSITerm for the Apple IIgs (CHUNK_S, 20848, GO COM A2) RUMOR MILL """""""""" IMPROVING ON THE PAST: ANOTHER APPLE II CD ROM? In brief, what I was """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" referring to was unnecessary duplication of files. If you're telling me that you think that the Apple II community has to choose between getting it finished, and getting it done right, I won't argue. But that doesn't mean I have to like it. I recommend you read my reply to Udo, answering the question, "What was wrong with the AUGE CD anyway?" The answer is: "Not much"... but it had been my hope that a Genie-based CD would avoid the pitfalls of earlier CDs, rather than charging ahead and making them all over again. A collection, to my mind, is more than just a dump of everything one has on hand. One has to keep in mind the cumulative effect--how will it look to the new arrival who has never seen the collection before, and doesn't realize it was accumulated over time? - Some may say that Genie is already mostly pre-vetted anyway. I agree, but would like to see it quickly re-vetted if possible. - Some may say that they want all released versions--that they don't want just v1.0 and v3.1, they want all the versions in between as well. I agree; I just don't want two copies of v2.2. - Some may argue that they want it "warts and all". I understand that point of view too, but feel it could be balanced with "tidying" as opposed to "editing". My point was, and is, a good CD would be more than just a dump of all the files in the Genie library. Anthologies need editors. Editors need assistants. I was pleading to be one of the assistants--but I'll withdraw that plea if it's going to sink the project. Doug ("They don't want it good; they want it Thursday.") C. (D_CUFF, 20670, GO COM A2) <<<<< I thought the AUGE CD was a fine amateur effort, and recommend its """"" purchase--if anyone can find one for sale second-hand. But the nature of that CD was bound to create some problems. (For those reading that don't know the CD, the AUGE CD was a collection of "disk of the month"s.) My biggest problem with the AUGE CD is that the disk GS.Utilities.03 (Disk 062) simply does not appear on the CD. The files that appear in that directory are a duplicate copy of one of the Pictures disks--GS.Pics.05 (Disk 067). Quality control would have prevented such an error. An inevitable problem with the CD is duplication: CDA.ADB on GS.CDAs.01 and GS.CDAs.02; PACMAN on GS.NDAs.03 and GS.NDAs.04; SPELLBINDER 1.00 on GS.Games.02 and GS.Games.16. These are just the duplications I've noticed when using the disk; I haven't checked it systematically. There's also quite a lot of duplication in the collections of sound files, and some duplication in the collections of picture files, but I can't quote you chapter and verse here. Of course, some of this is inevitable since the disks were compiled over a long time. And the CD has to be this way if it is to accurately represent the AUGE collection. I understand that. But it does point up the fact that the AUGE CD was an amateur effort. I don't want to do without amateur efforts--I'm very very pleased that AUGE made copies of their collection for their members to buy, and then let the rest of us buy too. All I'm saying is that the AUGE CD can be frustrating to use sometimes, because it could have been an appreciably better CD if it had been possible to eliminate the duplication. That wasn't possible in the case of the AUGE CD for historical reasons. Fair enough. But let's learn from the mistakes of previous CDs, please, before another one is released? Doug C. (D_CUFF, 20671, GO COM A2) WHEN IS ANIMASIA 3D SHOWING UP ON DELPHI? A3D will be uploaded to Delphi, """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" eventually. It will also be available on Tony Diaz's apple2.org Web site in the near future. Two things are delaying this: 1) I have trouble uploading/downloading to Delphi. My 8-bit connection through Genie is very slow, and the A3D files are very big (four of them at no less than 460K each). 2) I was intending to wait until the manual/documentation files are also ready to go through the process. A3D isn't particularly useful, at least not for any projects, without the docs. That said, I promise to get the A3D archives uploaded here very soon. They are already available on Genie, and have been for several weeks. My connection there is faster and more reliable. I believe the manual archives will be reconstructed soon. An Apple II colleague of mine, Gareth Jones, has been working on alternative methods for presenting the manuals. (How does a collection of !Help! files sound?) But this is a big job, and takes some time. You will definitely have fun playing with this program. I hope to get some time to learn more about it (and write an in-depth review) in a few months. Max Jones Juiced.GS http://www.wbwip.com/juiced.gs (JUICEDGS, 20430, GO COM A2) PUBLIC POSTINGS """"""""""""""" KANSASFEST 1999--YOUR MOMENT OF TRUTH """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" ______ _____ ( ) ( ) ____________________________________________ | | / / ( _____________________________'99____) | | / / | | | |/ / | | II Infinitum!! | / | |______ | |\ \ | _______) __________ ________ ________ | | \ \ | | ( _____) ( ___) (__ __) | | \ \ | | | |__ \ \ | | | | \ \ | | | __) \ \ | | | | \ \ | | | |_____ ___\ \ | | (______) (________) (_______) (__________) (_________) |___| Experience The Magic!! When: July 21-25, 1999 Where: Avila College, Kansas City, Missouri +++ KFest is back ... and it's never been more affordable! Check out these rates, which include room and meals from Wednesday evening (dinner) on July 21, through Sunday morning (breakfast) on July 25. (Saturday evening dinner not included. That's Kfesters' Night Out On The Town!) +++ Early Bird rates (good if you register BEFORE April 15) +++ Double room: $225 Single room: $275 Spouse rate (in case you want to bring that special person along): $175 Registration only (no dorm room or meals): $175 +++ Regular Attendee rates (if you register AFTER April 15) +++ Double room: $275 Single room: $325 Spouse rate (in case you want to bring that special person along): $225 Registration only (no dorm room or meals): $225 Those cool Kfest T-shirts will also be available again this year for $15, but ONLY if you order in advance. (See registration form below.) +++ Special Early Arrivals rate +++ For the very first time, Kfest will start early for those who'd like to arrive a little sooner. Avila dorms will be available for occupancy on Tuesday night for a small extra fee. No formal activities will be planned, although the day may include the annual trek to KC Masterpiece Restaurant for some of that world-famous Kansas City barbecue! The rate for early arrivals (Tuesday night dorm room only): Double room: $25 Single room: $33 For attendees planning to arrive at the normal time on Wednesday, check-in will be on from 1-4 pm. Check-out will be from 11 am-1 pm on Sunday. Current plans call for formal Kfest sessions to begin with dinner in the Avila cafeteria on Wednesday evening (time to be announced), followed by the traditional opening event, the Kfest Keynote Address. We've got some great plans for that opening night activity. Stay tuned!! Computer sessions will be conducted on Thursday and Friday. Software and hardware demos are scheduled for Saturday morning, with a vendor fair slated for Saturday afternoon. Reminder: Meals included in the registration price are Wednesday dinner through Sunday breakfast, with the exception of Saturday dinner. On Saturday night, attendees can dine on their own at one of the many fine restaurants near the Avila campus, or join groups of Kfesters at Jess & Jim's Steak House or other local favorites. All children under 18 years must be accompanied by a parent or legal guardian. *** KFest this year is again being sponsored by InTrec Software, Inc., makers of ProTERM telecommunications software for the Apple II and Macintosh. If you have questions about KFest, or wish to make suggestions, you can find answers via the Internet. Just send an email message to: kfest-help@kfest.org .. or visit the Kfest World Wide Web page at: http://www.kfest.org If you're thinking about attending Kfest '99, please join the Kfest internet e-mail chat: To subscribe to the Kfest Information Mailing List, send email to majordomo@kfest.org. In the BODY of the message, place the following text: subscribe kfest You will receive a confirmation email. In order to be signed up for the list, you will have to respond to this confirmation as the instructions dictate. You will then be able send and read messages on the mailing list. ---[ The Form ]------------[ Cut Here ]----------[ Print Clearly ]--- KFest '99 Registration Form View and print this document using 9-point Monaco font (ProTERM default) or any other monospaced font such as Courier, CoPilot or Spectrum. Register for Kfest '99 By phone, fax or email: Credit card number <> Complete this form and select one option: Send this form via email to: Call the InTrec sales office: 602/992-5515 Fax this form: 602/992-0232 <> By postal mail: Credit card, check or money order. Print, fill out, and mail this form with payment. Checks and money orders must be on a USA bank and USA compatible funds. Registration Cost Check Applicable ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Early Bird rates (before April 15) Double $225 [ ] Single $275 [ ] Spouse only $175 [ ] Off campus $175 [ ] Regular rates (after April 15 and at the door) Double room $275 [ ] Single room $325 [ ] Spouse only $225 [ ] Conference only $225 [ ] Early Arrival rates Double $25 [ ] Single $33 [ ] T-Shirts $15 ea May we send your Kfest registration confirmation via email? [ ]Yes [ ]No If NO, how can we contact you for confirmation?:__________________________ __________________________________________________________________________ Roommate preference: _____________________________________________________ Prefer a smoker/non-smoker. Check one: [ ] Smoke [ ] Non-smoke Kfest Softwear: Order a memorable collectible Kfest '99 T-Shirt? $15 ea Quantity: [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] Size: SML MED LRG XLRG 2XLRG 3XLRG Today's Date: ________/_________/_________ 1- Registration fee (see above dates & fees) ......... ______________ 2- Registration fee for spouse if applicable ......... ______________ 3- T-Shirts Quantity [ ] @ $15.00 ea) ............. ______________ 4- Sub-total of lines 1-3: ........................... ______________ 5- Arizona residents only add .068% tax: . ........... ______________ 6- Total cost (total of lines 4-5): .................. ______________ Discover, Visa, Mastercard or American Express accepted. Checks & money orders must be payable to InTrec Software, and must be in US dollars from a US bank. _______________________________ ____________________________________ First Name Last Name ______________________________________________________________________ Organization (if applicable to Kfest) ______________________________________________________________________ Shipping Address ______________________________________________________________________ City _______________________________________________ _____________________ State/Province Zip+4 or Postal Code _______/_______________________ _______/_____________________________ Day Phone Eve Phone [______________________________________________________________________ Internet Mail Address [ ] [ / ] Credit Card Number (Mastercard-Visa-Discovery-Amex) Expiration Date ______________________________________________________________________ Name on Card (please print clearly) ______________________________________________________________________ Authorized Signature (If printed, and mailed or faxed.) If you feel that using a credit card number via email may not be secure, considering mailing via postal service, fax, or call voice. Sponsored by: InTrec Software, Inc. 3035 E Topaz Circle Phoenix, AZ 85028-4423 Voc:602/992-1345 Fax:602/992-0232 ---[ End of Form ]-----------[ Cut Here ]---------[ Print Clearly ]--- (JUICEDGS, 20589, GO COM A2) >>>>> Thanks for posting the KFest registration information. I hope that """"" everyone shares this with their local users group or anyone else that might be interested in attending KFest '99. A few notes: We are able to check into the dorm on Tuesday, but there will be no official KFest activities until Wednesday evening. The "spouse rate" is for people that will be staying in the dorm and eating the wonderful Avila cafeteria food, but not attending any sessions. (This is good for parents of minors too.) There is also a reduced rate for locals, or people that prefer staying in a motel, but will be attending sessions. The only meal on this plan is the Friday night roast. The Big Cheese (CINDYADAMS, 20659, GO COM A2) NEW UPDATES FROM SHEPPY Two new software updates in the SheppyWare Apple """"""""""""""""""""""" IIgs collection! Shifty List 2.0.2 ----------------- This update provides a revised installer that (finally) works correctly even if there's a badly-installed Shifty List already in place, or if Shifty List was partially blown away by a system software reinstall. You can download the update, or get more information, by visiting . WebWorks GS 1.2.1 ----------------- This update fixes a memory leak that would cause you to lose a large block of memory every time you quit WebWorks GS after using the HTML preview feature. You can get more information about WebWorks GS, and download the update, by visiting . Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd Macintosh & PowerPC Programmers Forum (SHEPPY, 20079, GO COM A2) GSAIM 1.0 RELEASED Get Connected On Your Apple IIgs! """""""""""""""""" gsAIM 1.0 Now Available gsAIM, the Apple IIgs AOL Instant Messenger-compatible NDA, has been released! This $10 shareware desk accessory lets you carry on up to 20 one-on-one conversations with friends or colleagues, right on your Apple IIgs desktop. All you need is an AOL account, a free AIM account, System 6.0.1, and Marinetti 2.0 (with a working connection to an ISP, of course). You can try a limited version of gsAIM -- without support for saving buddy lists or your preferences -- by visiting . After you've tried it, just fill out the included registration form and mail it in, or visit my online ordering page at to pay the fee by credit card online. Note to users that have already registered the software: your current registration code SHOULD still work; if it doesn't, email your old code to me, along with your gsAIM serial number (as displayed in the gsAIM 1.0 "Please Register" window, and I'll email your new code to you). Please read the documentation; your current preference files need to be moved to a new location, or you'll lose your settings and your buddy list. If you have questions about gsAIM, don't hesitate to email me: sheppy@sheppyware.net. (I'll be uploading gsAIM 1.0 to Delphi shortly) Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@sheppyware.net http://www.sheppyware.net (SHEPPY, 20783, GO COM A2) <<<<< I need to correct that release slightly: """"" It implies that you need both a real AOL account and an AOL Instant Messenger account. That's not the case. You need one OR the other. You can get an AIM account (that you can use with gsAIM) for free at www.aim.aol.com. Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@sheppyware.net http://www.sheppyware.net (SHEPPY, 20797, GO COM A2) JUICED.GS EXPLODES INTO 1999 GreetinGS! """""""""""""""""""""""""""" In about one month, Juiced.GS, the galaxy's premier IIgs-specific printed publication, will begin its fourth year of service to the Apple II world. Do not doubt that 1999 will be another great year for the IIgs community, and for Juiced.GS. As so many of our subscribers tell us, Juiced.GS just keeps getting better and better. How so, you ask? Judge for yourself. Here are some highlights of the past year: -- Juiced.GS ... enlisted the able assistance of Apple II experts Bret Victor and Dave Tribby to teach users more about making music on their IIgses. -- ... introduced the Apple II community to the work of Louis Cornelio, a San Diego educator who keeps the IIgs spirit alive in his high school classroom, and maintains an impressive presence on the World Wide Web. -- ... attended Kfest '98 and was the fist printed publication to offer a complete, firsthand report of news and dramatic product unveilings that occurred there. -- ... was the first to publish in-depth reviews of new products such as SuperConvert 4.0, NiftySpell, WebWorks GS, GraphicWriter III 2.1, Disk Access II, and GSoft BASIC. -- ... launched a quarterly telecommunications column by Tony Ward to help users of all levels get more productivity and enjoyment from their online time and effort. -- ... introduced an ongoing series of articles/tutorials by Eric Shepherd about GSoft BASIC that serves the needs of both novice and advanced users. That series will continue well into 1999. -- ... in conjunction with Mike Westerfield and the Byte Works, placed a copy of "GSoft BASIC: The Free Version" into the hands of each and every subscriber (275 of them), so they could follow along with Shepherd's GSoft articles and learn more about this cool new programming language. -- ... played a key role in working with Michael Lutynski to reclassify the dynamic program Animasia 3-D as shareware and make it available to the IIgs community. -- ... continued to offer inexpensive disk compilations for special order from readers so that everyone can have access to such fabulous new software as Babelfish, Wolfenstein 3D, GShisen, Animasia 3-D, Fontpimp, Desktop Alarm, Marinetti and Twilight II 2.0. Indeed, Juiced.GS had a great year. (See samples of last year's product on our Web site. The URL is listed below.) And in case you missed it, The Lamp (the cool digital newsletter centered on Delphi) named our magazine the best Apple II publication of the year! We certainly appreciate such recognition, but don't expect us to rest on our laurels. We're hard at work to make sure 1999 will be just as good, or even better! In 1999, you will read more from Eric Shepherd about GSoft BASIC; be wowed by a stunning hardware discovery from Geoff Weiss; and learn more about the rich and colorful of history of AppleWorks Classic from Gareth Jones. What's more, Juiced.GS will strive in 1999 to become the ultimate authority and news source on the rapidly expanding area of IIgs emulation. Look for an introductory article from Ryan Suenaga on the meteoric rise of the "Virtual GS" in the upcoming issue -- Volume 4, Issue 1 -- due out in mid March. Juiced.GS will, of course, be in Kansas City for Kfest '99. And as new products and upgrades are released throughout the year, you can count on us being right there to report the news and present reviews. Renewals have been coming in since the final issue of 1998 was published, and we're getting a number of new subscribers as well. But if you haven't yet renewed, or have been putting off subscribing, now is the time to move ahead and become part of the Juiced.GS gang. A 1999 subscription is $14 in the U.S., Canada and Mexico; $20 elsewhere in the world. As a special promotion, new 1999 subscribers will get the final issue of 1998 FREE. (That issue contains the first GSoft BASIC tutorial/article and a copy of GSoft BASIC: The FREE Version.) To subscribe or renew, send $14 ($20 overseas) in U.S. funds to: Max Jones Juiced.GS 2217 Lakeview Drive Sullivan, IN 47882 We're working hard to keep the Apple II community alive and well. Please join us. And when you do, we believe you'll find that with us ... "Apple II Forever!" .. is more than just a slogan. Max Jones Juiced.GS http://www.wbwip.com/juiced.gs (JUICEDGS, 20390, GO COM A2) MARINETTI AUTHOR ON THE MOVE Over the next month or so, I'll be moving """""""""""""""""""""""""""" house, so apart from spending even less time online than I have been the past few months, that means my address will also be changing. If you have an address for me, then please email me the address you have. I'll email you the new one. If you have my P.O. box address, then that's OK, because it won't be changing. Thanks, Richard (RICHARD_B, 20649, GO COM A2) SIS 1.1 FEATURES ON THE WEB The SevenHills Web Site has been updated to """"""""""""""""""""""""""" provide the new features and improvements in SIS 1.1. The URL for this information is: http://www.sevenhills.com/applesoftware/iigs/sis/sisv11.htm (SISGEOFF, 20738, GO COM A2) BEST OF THE BEST """""""""""""""" 20477 16-FEB 00:44 Telecommunications RE: Modem cable (Re: Msg 20476) From: JBLAKENEY To: UDOHUTH I continue to use communications programs on my IIgs because I much prefer to use my IIgs to using my Windows machine. It is much more pleasurable and less stress inducing. Secondly, and probably more importantly, it is more convenient for me to do so. It is much nicer to download/upload files directly to/from my IIgs. It saves me having to null-modem stuff to my Pentium II before/after the transfer. It also makes more sense to me to deal with Apple II related messages using my Apple II. Keep in mind that most of my online activities revolve around the Apple II. My Pentium II is used for work and for those 3D shoot-em-up games. My IIgs is also used for some work and games as well as pretty much everything else I do. Why do I use my IIgs for so much when I have a much faster machine sitting beside it? Because I already own and know how to use the programs that I have on my IIgs and they get the job done for me. Jeff Blakeney - Dean of the Apple II University in A2Pro ** HyperCard IIgs Course now in session! ** [EOA] [A2P]------------------------------ A2Pro_DUCTIVITY | ----------------------------------- Checking out A2PRO on Delphi """""""""""""""""""""""""""" by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W. [thelamp@sheppyware.net] MORE ON FOUNDATION SOURCE As I recall, Marc released source to Genie, """"""""""""""""""""""""" though I don't think anything ever came of it. Do you know whether the source may be uploaded to Delphi? And do you know someone who has a copy? Yours Soenke (SBEHRENS, 2454, GO COM A2) >>>>> I have the source. It's incomplete and mostly useless as it stands """"" because key low-level portions of the code were never released. I tried for two years to get the rest of the code but never could. It's very unfortunate. Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd Macintosh & PowerPC Programmers Forum (SHEPPY, 2455, GO COM A2) <<<<< too bad. Foundation could have been a really nice thing ... oh """"" well. Was a reason given for not releasing the entire code? Yours Soenke (SBEHRENS, 2456, GO COM A2) >>>>> Marc Wolfgram released the code he had. Jim Murphy had the rest of """"" it, and he never got around to uploading it anywhere. Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd Macintosh & PowerPC Programmers Forum (SHEPPY, 2459, GO COM A2) BERNIE AUTHOR PATCHES TOOLBOX, FILM AT 11 I'm having big trouble with a """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" toolbox patch. I have installed a toolbox patch (successfully...and yes, the address is one less :), but what I see on the stack does not correspond to what I'm expecting. here's the situation: the toolbox call (input parms) has the form: return parameter (long) input parameter (word, =0) When I do a tsc stal brk right at the very beginning of my function to see where the stack pointer is, I take that value and check the memory which returns: 03 2D 01 FE 9E 9B 0B 00 00 00 00 00 00 I can't explain that the first four bytes are. I would expect that the stack pointer was pointing at the 9E 9B 0B instead which is the rtl address. The six zeroes afterwards match the input and return values. I have looked at the stack diagram in Appendix A Toolbox Ref 2, and it clearly states that the stack pointer is pointing at the rtl address when my toolbox function is called. Looking at the stack, I can't confirm this. What am I missing? Thanks a lot!! - henrik (GUDATH, 2461, GO COM A2) >>>>> Keep in mind that there are TWO return addresses on the stack when """"" your toolbox function is called, not one. That's because the Toolbox provides that auxiliary entry point that provides for a call to a dispatch subroutine. Very few people use DISPATCH2 ($E1/0004), but it's there. Because of that, DISPATCH ($E1/0000) adds a second return address to the stack, so the stack is consistent regardless of which dispatch vector was used. Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd Macintosh & PowerPC Programmers Forum (SHEPPY, 2464, GO COM A2) LOCALTALK TO ETHERNET SOLUTIONS? My latest MacWarehouse (UK) catalogue """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" shows a new product from Asante. It is called AsanteTalk (Part #99-00505-03), and connects Ethernet to up to 8 AppleTalk machines or printers. It also says it includes all necessary cables, which presumably means that it is acting as a form of hub for the 8 AppleTalk devices. They are primarily promoting it that it can connect an iMac to other Macs etc., but presumably we could use it to the IIgs AppleTalk port. Whether this is any answer to our IIgs Ethernet problem, I don't know... The cost in the UK is GBP85, so I would expect it to be around $100 in the States. Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Tue 9 Feb 1999 - 162 days till KFest '99 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 2.6 Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.0 woofing on a PowerMac 8200/120 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/ (EWANNOP, 2472, GO COM A2) >>>>> I found it more cost effective to get a $30 SE/30 from Goodwill and """"" an Ethernet Card I had lying around, then using Apple's LocalTalk Bridge to get it working. . . problem is that the software isn't easy to find, and neither is a good deal on a compact Mac with Ethernet card. - Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution (RSUENAGA, 2473, GO COM A2) >>>>> I'll point out that MacIP does not work across LocalTalk Bridge, so """"" if you want to do Internet across LocalTalk to an Ethernet, you have to use a hardware solution. Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd Macintosh & PowerPC Programmers Forum (SHEPPY, 2476, GO COM A2) >>>>> Last I checked, Vicom didn't provide a LocalTalk to Ethernet """"" bridge (I could be wrong). But it's a $300 or more piece of software too. You can get an EtherWave adapter for way less than that (even at retail pricing, you can get it for $150 or less), and it doesn't drain resources from a server that's bridging the networks. LocalTalk Bridge works great for AppleShare and printing, just not for MacIP. If you don't need MacIP support, it's a really good way to go (especially since it's free :). Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd Macintosh & PowerPC Programmers Forum (SHEPPY, 2479, GO COM A2) >>>>> Farallon has (or had, last I looked) LocalTalk Bridge available for """"" download free on their web site. Apple no longer supports it, and in fact it's slightly broken on Mac OS 8.5 (if you switch from Printer Port to Ethernet in AppleTalk control panel with LTB active, the system will crash). But it still works otherwise. Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@sheppyware.net http://www.sheppyware.net (SHEPPY, 2485, GO COM A2) GNO PROGRAMMING ALLOWED The first general release of the GNO Base """"""""""""""""""""""" Distribution since GNO 2.0.4 is now available. See http://www.gno.org/~gno for details. While there are still many things left to be done for the GNO Base Distribution, this is the first publicly available version of GNO 2.0.6 that is fully runnable. Note that the 15 February 1999 release does not include networking support. You assistance in making GNO better would be appreciated. Even if you are not a programmer, your feedback is valuable. Problems and recommendations should be made via the GNO Bugs database at http://www.gno.org/~gno/bugs.html. Discussion should, as usual, take place on either the USENET newsgroup comp.sys.apple2.gno or the Delphi Programmers' Forum at http://forums.delphi.com/m/main.asp?sigdir=a2pro Now that the mechanisms are in place for automated builds, you can expect GNO updates on a more regular basis. My thanks goes out to the GNO-Devel team and everyone else who have provided assistance and feedback. Devin Reade 15 February 1999 (GLYNREADE, 2489, GO COM A2) MIKE WESTERFIELD TO TEACH GSOFT COURSE ON DELPHI Take control of your """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Apple IIGS with GSoft BASIC! You've heard the old-timers talking about how they got started on Applesoft BASIC, grabbing control of their machine and teaching it to work their way. Now you can learn how to take control of your Apple IIGS using a modern, supported version of BASIC that has all the features the early Apple II programmers only dreamed about! Learn to Program in GSoft BASIC starts right here on Delphi on March 1st in the A2Pro chat area. You'll learn GSoft BASIC from the author of the most widely used programming tools on the Apple IIGS, then and now, Mike Westerfield. He's also the author of the text for the course, a new self-paced tutorial book called Learn to Program in GSoft BASIC. The course is divided into fourteen lessons, which cover the entire Advanced Placement Computer Science curriculum. You'll learn the BASIC programming language and the essential programming skills you need to write real programs--skills like sorting, searching, managing stacks, and manipulating trees. Each week we'll meet in the Delphi chat room to discuss any problems you're having, expand on the materials in the book, and cover any questions you have that the book doesn't deal with. We'll cover one lesson a week, but you're free to work ahead, and you can keep coming if you fall a bit behind, too. Prerequisites: None. Workload: Expect to spend 2 to 6 hours per week on the course, depending on your background. Check on www.delphi.com, A2Pro chat area, on February 22nd for the first week's assignment. Cost: None. (But there is a required text. See Text, below.) Hardware and software requirements: 1. Apple IIGS with 1.125M of RAM and a 3.5" floppy disk drive. A hard drive and 4M of RAM are nice, but not actually necessary. 2. A printer is nice, but not required. 3. A color display is nice, but not required. 4. System 6.0.1. 5. GSoft BASIC. You can buy the commercial version or download the free one; either will work for this course. Visit http://www.hypermall.com/byteworks for either version. You can also purchase the commercial version directly from the Byte Works, Inc. Contact information appears at the end of this letter. Text: Learn to Program in GSoft BASIC, available from the Byte Works, Inc. Cost: $50; $40 to those signed up for the Delphi course. Shipping is $5 in the US and Canada. Contact the publisher for shipping charges to other locations. Contents: 240 page self-paced tutorial with problems, solution disk. Chapters: Getting Started Variables and Loops Input, Loops and Conditions Subroutines Arrays Types and Constants Files Pointers and Lists Miscellaneous Useful Stuff Scanning Text Recursion Sorts Searches and Trees You can purchase Learn to Program in GSoft BASIC from the Byte Works, Inc. The expected ship date is February 15th, 1999. If you have questions about the Delphi course, GSoft BASIC, or Learn to Program in GSoft BASIC, contact the Byte Works, Inc. Byte Works, Inc. 8000 Wagon Mound Dr. NW Albuquerque, NM 87120 Voice: (505) 898-8183 FAX: (505) 898-4092 E-mail: MikeW50@aol.com Web Site: http://www.hypermall.com/byteworks (JBLAKENEY, 2491, GO COM A2) >>>>> Due to a problem with printing the course text, I'm bumping the """"" starting date to March 8th rather than March 1st. The course text should be back from the printer sometime this week. If you'd like to order your copy now, feel free--we're taking orders, and will mail them as soon as we get the books back. When you order, be sure to let us know if you're using the free version or the commercial version. If you're registered, we'll figure out that you own the commercial version, but if you're not registered, we need to get that straightened out. We'll be sending free updates out with each order for the course. If you've never bought the course and don't have GSoft BASIC, the FREE Version!, we'll send you a copy of the free version automatically. Mike Westerfield (BYTEWORKS, 2498, GO COM A2) >>>>> Check out http://www.hypermall.com/byteworks for lots of details """"" about the course, GSoft BASIC, and support materials. You'll find information about: 1. The course text, Learn to Program in GSoft BASIC. 2. GSoft BASIC, both the commercial and free versions. 3. ORCA/Debugger, which you might find useful while working through the course. 4. Details on how to order products like the course text from us. Drop me a note or post here if you have questions. Mike Westerfield (BYTEWORKS, 2499, GO COM A2) GSOFT 1.2 RELEASED Version 1.2 of GSoft BASIC, the newest Apple IIGS """""""""""""""""" language from the Byte Works, is now available. Version 1.2 fixes several bugs and adds a few new features to GSoft BASIC 1.1. The new features include a HEX$ command for converting numbers to hexadecimal format; two new pragmas for blocking CTRL-C interrupts while a program runs, and blocking tool errors when a program completes; support for named labels instead of just line numbers; the ability to jump out of a structured statement; support for type characters in tool interface files; and optional parameters for the RENUMBER command. Registered owners of GSoft BASIC can get the upgrade free when they order any other product from the Byte Works, Inc. If you are not ordering another product, you can still get the upgrade worldwide for a $5 shipping and handling charge. GSoft BASIC, The FREE Version! has also been updated. You can download GSoft BASIC, The FREE Version! Version 1.2 from the Byte Works web site. Check out all the details, including the upcoming GSoft BASIC course on Delphi, on our web site at http://www.hypermall.com/byteworks. (BYTEWORKS, 2502, GO COM A2) [EOA] [TVT]------------------------------ THE VIRTUAL ][ | ----------------------------------- Sheppy's ImageMaker Boosts Bernie's Bones ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W. [thelamp@sheppyware.net] IMAGEMAKER MAKES SETTING UP BERNIE A BREEZE FOR CURRENT IIGS USERS ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In the December issue of _The Lamp!_, we took a look at how to move your IIgs hard drives over to your Power Macintosh running a copy of _Bernie ][ The Rescue_ using Zip Drives or other removable large storage media. Since then, one of the most prolific Apple II programmers of recent times, Eric Shepherd, aka Sheppy, has released a new program that makes this older method obsolete and requires nothing in the way of additional hardware. His new program, _ImageMaker_, can take RAMdisks, floppy disks, or hard disks attached to your IIgs and turn them into usable images for Bernie to bone up with. _ImageMaker_ is a $5 IIgs shareware product. With it, you can create two types of images: DiskCopy 4.2, which is a standard disk image intended for floppy diskettes on the Macintosh (these images are limited by the DiskCopy format to 800k and 1440k disks), and Universal Disk Image, which is a disk image format that has become popular with Apple II emulators, including _Bernie_. Neither of these formats are compressed, so you can figure an image of an 800k diskette actually taking up a slight bit more space than 800k, for instance. The advantage of using DiskCopy images is that they can actually be read by your Macintosh as disks and written back to real disks. The major disadvantage would be that only 800k and 1440k sizes are officially supported. While the Universal Disk Image format cannot be read by your Mac (or other computer) as if it were a real disk nor written back to a real disk, it can be used with several different emulators and can handle any size of disk, making it ideal for hard drives. To use it most efficiently, you need to set up an AppleTalk network between your IIgs and Power Mac. There have been many other articles written about this subject so we will not cover it here. Once your network has been set up and you have logged on with your IIgs to your Mac (making sure you have sufficient hard disk space for disk images of your IIgs volumes), simply start _ImageMaker_. The interface is extremely simple to follow: just choose which disk you wish to make an image of, which of the two formats you want the image to be in, then save it to your mounted Mac Appleshare volume. Once _ImageMaker_ is done doing its thing, you will have a disk image (regardless of whether you choose DiskCopy or Universal Disk Image format) that _Bernie_ will be able to mount through its "Mount Disk" option. _Much_ simpler than the Zip Drive method discussed in December! So, for you die-hard Apple II fans who are putting _Bernie_ on your new Power Macs, the $5 shareware fee is well worth it. This is the simplest method yet to get your Virtual II up and running. Get _ImageMaker_ as soon as you possibly can! :: DISCUSSED ON DELPHI :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: : : : If this were an actual wisecrack, it would be funny. : : : ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: LUMITECH :::::: [EOA] [INN]------------------------------ EXTRA INNINGS | ----------------------------------- About The Lamp! The Lamp! is published on the fifteenth of every month in """"""""""""""" the Database of the II Scribe Forum on the Delphi online service (GO CUS 11). This publication produced entirely with real or emulated Apple II computers using Appleworks 5.1 and Hermes. Apple II Forever! * The Lamp! is (c) copyright 1999 by Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W. All rights reserved. * To reach The Lamp! on Internet email send mail to thelamp@sheppyware.net * Back issues of The Lamp! are available in the II Scribe Forum on Delphi as well as The Lamp! Home Page, http://lamp.sheppyware.net. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Opinions expressed herein are those of the individual authors, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of the Delphi Online Services, Syndicomm, Inc., or Ryan M. Suenaga. Forum messages are reprinted verbatim and are included in this publication with permission from the individual authors. Delphi Online Services, Syndicomm, Inc. and Ryan M. Suenaga do not guarantee the accuracy or suitability of any information included herein. We reserve the right to edit all letters and copy. 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