Ultima V Below are the only Copy ][+ parms I've found for Ultima V (from Copy ][+ v9.x): T0-T2, SECTOR COPY T3-T22, 15=0, 16=0, 17=AA, 18=BB, 19=AB, 1A=00, 9F=01 SECTOR EDIT, TRACK 1, SECTOR 04, DOS 3.3, 90:EA/EA Edhel Iaur, Esq. __________________________ As you may know, there was a later U5 release. It can be identified by the "Supports Mockingboard/Phasor/MIDI" notice on the red label on the box and the absence of a "PACKAGE CONTENTS" list on the box bottom edge. I do not know which version the above parms are supposed to let you copy. If you have the later version and a GS and the above parms do not work, you might give U5MBONGS (for "Ultima 5 with MockingBoard on GS") a try. Look for a Shrink file named "U5MBONGS.SHK on Ground at ... http://ground.isca.uiowa.edu/2/apple2/Collections/AOL/Games/Adv./Roleplay U5MBONGS includes routines which produce a deprotected copy. I do not know if works on the original release version. It works fine on the later Ultima V release. Rubywand