* R e n e g a d e L e g i o n * Carding in the '90s by The Knight Technical Report #5 April 1991 The Night Elite BBS (617)623.7151 (RL HeadQ) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 3/17/91 It used to be that a person could steal a carbon and find a house that no one was occupying during the day, stick up a 'Please leave package' note, and your package would be there the next day via overnight delivery. This, of course no longer works almost at ALL anymore unless your in a relatively unpopulated state. And, you'll need a lot more information than a carbon can give you to even get it mailed. I have outlined a step by step carding method that HAS WORKED for me and has ALWAYS gotten stuff through to the drop every attempt. I will go through each step THOROUGHLY as if you were a COMPLETE beginner to carding just in case you ARE. 1........Gathering Card Information The first step is getting credit card #'s. The BEST way I have found to do this is to use CBI. You will need to get the following info from CBI: Credit card #, Name of bank, Social Security #, and Address and FULL name. After you get that information from CBI, it is neccessary to call information and get the persons REAL phone #. This will NOT be used, but you'll need it just in case, I'll explain later. 2........Setting up The setup part is fairly easy, and this involves a slight change from past methods of carding. As a 'Phone number you can be reached at', You must provide a Direct Dial VMB. So a Direct Dial VMB which will pick up with YOUR greeting is a must. This will impersonate a home answering machine. Change the greetin to "Hello, I can not answer your call...." etc. Last of all, Have ALL information ACCESSABLE and EASY to find. Tips: - Run the card through a CC Checker for $1 if you got the CC from CBI. Example: 800-554-2265 Bank : 1067 # Merchant: 52 # Type : 10 # (MC) 20 # (Visa) Amount : 100# ($1.00) Exp.date: 0193 (1/93, make it up,the exp. date is NEVER checked) - DON'T use American Express, they always call the owner's number EVEN if you tell them your not at home! 3........Ordering This is when you actually PLACE the call. You MUST stay calm and relax. Tell them what you want to order, the key is to pretend like the person with the card is YOU. Play actor, ASK about prices FIRST, and DON'T overdo it from one place. Example: Just order a loaded 486 with a 200 Mb hard drive, DON'T go and say "Yeah, can I have a gig on that?" Then, just order! When it comes to credit card time, remember these: - Do NOT order it OVERNIGHT, Send it 3rd day or something, I used the same VMB for 2 months before the police got around to shutting it down. Overnight delivery is a flag for them now. - If they ask for "the number on the back of the card" or "The issuing bank" (If CBI didn't give you the issuing bank, or you didn't know what the initials were) say: "Well, I'm not looking at my card right now." If you need to, use phrases like: "My card is in my wallet in the car, I REALLY don't have time to go dig it out right now. IS THIS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM!?" They HATE that phrase and I usually get a turnaround of 80% saying, no sir, never mind. The Key is, ACT LIKE YOU HAVE A DATE IN 25 MINUTES DOWNTOWN, in other words, act rushed and pissed off. MOST BUSINESSMEN ARE, Don't kiss their asses because businessmen don't!! - Your VMB is your ANSWERING MACHINE, if they catch the difference in area code of VMB and Billing address, tell them its your summer house or relatives house, but DON'T BRING IT UP. - If they ask for # at Billing address, give them the REAL #, they will check with Information only, but be sure to emphasize that the number you gave them for the billing address is NOT the number your at! Make SURE you say you can be contacted at the VMB number for the next week or so. - If they tell you they can't ship to a different address than the billing address, stand FIRM, say "Is there ANY way I can change this? can you call my bank or something?!!?" Sound ANNOYED, DON'T give up and in about 40% of my calls, the person changed their mind. - Do NOT check your VMB every 10 minutes, that looks weird. - DO NOT even TRY to get HST's, those are flagged UP the BUTT, and I'd GUESS that soundblasters will be soon. - Tell them you NEED the stuff delivered on X day, and INSIST, KEEP insisting! Make SURE. Tell them, "I need to do work on XX and I want the machine then" - If you are sending a LOT of machines etc. to ONE drop, Make the package ATTENIONED to John Smith or whoever, have ALL the packages addressed to the same person. Tell them your sendin it to a business associate, relative, wife, whatever. We don't need the stuff flagged down at Fed Ex. The key phrase is "I really don't have time for this" And remember: YOUR the CUSTOMER, they don't know you AREN'T the card holder, for christ sake, ACT LIKE IT!! DON'T take second rate service!! 4........Drops The drop is very important nowadays, you can NOT just leave a note, so don't even bother. 4 methode 1. Vacant House Method Put blankets up on windows in house and sit in and sign for packages. This method, works, and there are no future problems. FUTURE problems, they MAY not beleive you live there etc. so this method is a BIT risky 2. Freind's house - Robbed method Tell a freind to sign at HIS house, then call the police at 6.00pm and say "I JUST came home and my door was ajar and some lights were on, I Don't think anything was stolen, but what should I do?" Make sure ALL stuff is cleared out and its safer if the person doesn't even have a computer. When the police come by asking about packages on X day, bring up your break in. To be safer, send something one day late and refuse to sign for it and bring it up to the police. 3. Freind's house - Vacant method Sign for the stuff at a freind's house, GET IT OUT, and when the police come say " I was on vacation for 3 weeks, I don't know ANYTHING about packages" There's NOTHING they can do, and your set. The advantages to the last 2 methods are: You won't get bored if nothing comes You won't get caught breaking & Entering You won't get caught by Fed ex guy and not get stuff I have done #2 AND #3 with success, so it CAN be done. Extra tip: Try US Mail, they haven't caught on yet to the drop deal! Have fun and don't get caught! - - RL  GATES OF HELL +64-9-5757765 FOR THE LATEST IN P/H/C/V/A Current Newuser PW://ANTIPIG